THE HOBBIT: THE DESOLATION OF SMAUG Trailer is out!
Looks great and Bernard sounds awesome as Smaug!
Benedict? :-)
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Benedict? :-)THE HOBBIT: THE DESOLATION OF SMAUG Trailer is out!
Looks great and Bernard sounds awesome as Smaug!
Woops! Right, Benedict! Not sure why I said Bernard ...
Woops! Right, Benedict! Not sure why I said Bernard ...Benedict? :-)THE HOBBIT: THE DESOLATION OF SMAUG Trailer is out!
Looks great and Bernard sounds awesome as Smaug!
With a handle like Benedict Cumberbatch, I will guarantee that isn't the first time that's happened. :-)
He even has two middle names. Sheesh!
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Honestly till i saw Sherlock, he was a complete unknown.
I felt the same way, I didn't really know who he was. I didn't want a cultured voiceover, I wanted someone with a rougher, gravelly rendition like the Bass/Rankin version.
Yes, I know a lot of people don't like it but I loved it as a kid and a lot of the characters and voices stuck with me over the years.
You know, in some ways I am really glad that it has been so many years since I read Tolkien. It has allowed me to not worry about consistency with the books as much, as my memory of events is foggy. Looking forward to this movie.
I liked the trailer, but the scenes of elves fighting spiders concern me. If they have the elves stealing Bilbo's thunder, I'm going to be incredibly POed.
Much as in "The Lord of the Rings" Peter Jackson has to deal with a lot of material on "The Hobbit" that is fine reading material, but does not translate well to the big screen. Action/Adventure/Fantasy movies have to have lots of action, or else today's modern movie-goers will feel cheated. Jackson knows this and did a pretty fair job in the LotR movies of adding enough action here and there to keep the audience happy, while not really diverging the story much.
So long as Bilbo fights and kills a lone spider, in the dark, alone and afraid, I'm OK if other spider fight scenes don't really match the book. And I like the movie versions of the elves and how Jackson has brought them to the screen. MOAR ELVESES! I say.
Yeah, that would hurt. The elves have already rescued the dwarves once, and it's gonna really irk me if Bilbo loses his "attercop" moment. The forest of Mirkwood is supposed to pretty much be the part where Bilbo really earns his keep, after all.
It'll also bug me if they make the elf king justified in locking the dwarves up, of course.
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And I like the movie versions of the elves and how Jackson has brought them to the screen. MOAR ELVESES! I say.
I really didn't like how in the LOTR movies the elf did everything better then Gimli. Even in The Return of the King extended edition, Jackson had an elf OUTDRINK a dwarf. It will be a cold day in hell before that ever happens at my game table.
Says the man with the dwarf avatar. ;)
While I think The Hobbit is taking the dwarves a bit too seriously so far, I definitely hope this doesn't turn into, "That still only counts as one!"
I'm not objecting to elves fighting spiders. We know Jackson is going to throw in additional action sequences. I just don't want him to change Bilbo rescuing the dwarves from the spiders (and earning their respect) to the elves rescuing the dwarves from the spiders.
So long as Bilbo fights and kills a lone spider, in the dark, alone and afraid, I'm OK if other spider fight scenes don't really match the book. And I like the movie versions of the elves and how Jackson has brought them to the screen. MOAR ELVESES! I say.
Of course this is exactly what Jackson did to Frodo in Lord of the Rings. The crucial character developing moment for Frodo in LotR was when he, Merry, Pippin and Sam were captured by the barrow-wight and Frodo woke up alone in the dark and had to face the barrow-wight to save his friends. He even considered leaving them. "Even Gandalf would have to admit there was nothing he could do" as the book says.
This is the main reason why Frodo in the book is an heroic and compelling figure, but Frodo in the movie is a weak and vacillating character. In the movie you never saw Frodo assert his own heroism. Only his resolve.
It is quite possible that Jackson could make the same mistake again. He has to see Bilbo as heroic to film him as heroic. My take on Jackson, for all that he loved the books and tried to do them "right", his problem was that he did not see Frodo as the book's hero. He, like many others, saw Strider/Aragorn or even Gandalf as the hero. This is common in spite of both Gandalf and Aragorn explicitly stating in the book that Frodo (and Sam to a lesser extent) were the great heroes of the age.
It's puzzling.
However, on the positive side, In LotR Jackson was having to throw parts of the story out, and he threw out the baby with the bathwater. In The Hobbit, he's having to add to it. So it's highly probable he'll leave that scene in since he's looking for content, not looking to toss content out.
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Actually, Jackson pretty clearly saw Sam as the great hero of the quest. He pretty much literally carries Frodo through the movie. And since Frodo doesn't even start tough, it's a wonder he got trusted with the Ring at all.
While the Barrows was a big moment for Frodo, it didn't help that Frodo was an utter wuss everywhere else. He scarcely even used his sword, dropping it whenever anything scared him. Weathertop, for instance. In the book, Frodo panicked and attacked the Wraith King. In the movie? He dropped his sword and fell over. Then he screamed a bunch.
IIRC, Didn't the Elves eventually move against the Spiders and Dol Guldur? The Elf versus Spider scenes could be about that.
Actually, Jackson pretty clearly saw Sam as the great hero of the quest. He pretty much literally carries Frodo through the movie. And since Frodo doesn't even start tough, it's a wonder he got trusted with the Ring at all.
While the Barrows was a big moment for Frodo, it didn't help that Frodo was an utter wuss everywhere else. He scarcely even used his sword, dropping it whenever anything scared him. Weathertop, for instance. In the book, Frodo panicked and attacked the Wraith King. In the movie? He dropped his sword and fell over. Then he screamed a bunch.
It is hard to respond to this in any meaningful way without coming across as saying "wow, you sure missed a lot of the story."
By the time of Weathertop Frodo was falling under the spell of the ring. The witch-king and the other Nazgul had an effect that greatly enhanced the power of the ring to cause the bearer to do their bidding. This scene is telegraphing how much power the ring had, and how it affected whoever bore it.
Frodo leaping forward, shouting "Gilthonial, O Elbereth!" and striking at the witch king's foot is far from "wuss" behavior, as it should be clear in the scene where Merry, who DOES NOT bear the ring, can barely force himself to overcome the Nazgul's aura and strike at him FROM BEHIND.
The remarkable thing about this scene is that you see it as wuss and I see it as one of the bravest acts Frodo did. Foolish, perhaps, but brave.
In Balin's tomb, Frodo was the first to jump forward and stab the foot of the troll that was pushing the door open, allowing Boromir and Strider to close it.
It is hard to respond to that in any meaningful way without coming across as saying, "wow, you sure missed a lot of my post."
;D
I was talking about him being in a wuss in the movie vs. being bold and badass in the book. Frodo stabbing the Witchking was still a panicked act, but I didn't mean to say it was an example of Frodo being a wuss by any means.
It is hard to respond to that in any meaningful way without coming across as saying, "wow, you sure missed a lot of my post."
;DI was talking about him being in a wuss in the movie vs. being bold and badass in the book. Frodo stabbing the Witchking was still a panicked act, but I didn't mean to say it was an example of Frodo being a wuss by any means.
Ah, sorry, I totally misread your point. You seem to be saying the same thing I am. My mistake. :)
IIRC, Didn't the Elves eventually move against the Spiders and Dol Guldur? The Elf versus Spider scenes could be about that.
Yes, but not Thranduil's elves. But since PJ has not followed much of the elvish different cultures in LotR, he may very well substitute Galadriel's elves with Thranduil's.
Does anyone know when Desolation is released?
I see. Having watched the trailer, I see it's December 13th.
You'd think it would be December . Oh well, I guess "lucky numbers don't always come off"
Does anyone know when Desolation is released?
Probably depends on where you are. Here, it's December 11th.
The 'extended edition' of the first movie is now on sale (I knew there would be one...)
Newest trailer got me really pumped for movie. I have a feeling the spider scene could be better than the passage from the book and this movie will be as good as LOTR movies
Define Phantom Edit.
Ah. Never heard of that.
No, I don't believe there's any such thing for Hobbit 1.
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I had never heard of "The Phantom Edit" either. I'm not surprised by the critical reaction being that it is a better cut than the original.
I think if you had taken the film, chopped it into bits, threw them into a bushel basket with random bits of film from other movies, then spliced them all back together, that would be better than the original film.
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We see Bard, Thranduil among others, including the name sake of the movie. We see what could be Beorn as well.
I added the trailer for the Lego movie as a bonus because I love the last scene
I'm having a giveaway of some LotR action figures on my YouTube channel. Yay, Desolation of Smaug!