4th level wizard / 18 Int Spell slots


Rules Questions


Alright gang, I pre-apologize because I'm sure this has been addressed a million and 1 times, but I searched through the forums for a few hours and was unable to come do a 100% conclusion. I need to make sure I'm reading the rules for bonus spells per day + spells per day correctly.

I want to verify in regards to spell per day:

A 4th Level Wizard with an Int of 18 can cast the following spells per day:

Level 0: 4
Level 1: 4
Level 2: 3
Level 3: 1
Level 4: 1

So in short, a 4th Level Wizard can cast one 3rd level spell and one 4th level spell. Correct?


Mattick wrote:

Alright gang, I pre-apologize because I'm sure this has been addressed a million and 1 times, but I searched through the forums for a few hours and was unable to come do a 100% conclusion. I need to make sure I'm reading the rules for bonus spells per day + spells per day correctly.

I want to verify in regards to spell per day:

A 4th Level Wizard with an Int of 18 can cast the following spells per day:

Level 0: 4
Level 1: 4
Level 2: 3
Level 3: 1
Level 4: 1

So in short, a 4th Level Wizard can cast one 3rd level spell and one 4th level spell. Correct?

no you do not gain bonus spells until you can cast that level spell


Incorrect. You do not have access to 3rd or 4th level spells till level 5th and 7th.

Dark Archive

No, you do not gain your bonus spells for a level until you actually get access to that spell level. So, you will get your extra level three spell at level 5 when level three spells become available to you and same with level 7 and your bonus fourth level spell.


Excellent. I love this community :) Thanks much guys.


on the same line can a 3rd level sorcerer use a metamagic feat to cast a 2nd level spell even if he does not have any 3rd level spell slots outside of his "bonus spells"?


Dunit13dl wrote:
on the same line can a 3rd level sorcerer use a metamagic feat to cast a 2nd level spell even if he does not have any 3rd level spell slots outside of his "bonus spells"?

No, (but he could use a trait that reduces the metamagic cost to put it into a 2nd level slot.)


okay. he does not have that trait so he can not cast a 2nd level spell with say empowered that would make it a 3rd level spell which he does not have any slots. thanks


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Orfamay Quest wrote:
Dunit13dl wrote:
on the same line can a 3rd level sorcerer use a metamagic feat to cast a 2nd level spell even if he does not have any 3rd level spell slots outside of his "bonus spells"?
No, (but he could use a trait that reduces the metamagic cost to put it into a 2nd level slot.)

He couldn't even do that, a 3rd level sorcerer doesn't have 2nd level slots either!

Silver Crusade

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3d level is a very sad level for sorcerers....


In spell progression tables for any class, there is a difference between an entry of '0' and an entry of '-'.

'0' means you can access that level, but have zero slots available out of the box. This number may be increased by bonus spells, spell-slot granting items, and the like.

'-' means 'no access to slots of that level'. At all.

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