Faction, Region, and Background


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Shadow Lodge 4/5

I'm trying to decide which faction is appropriate for my character. She's a tiefling who suffered a lot of persecution in childhood for her fiendish features before finally leaving and moving on to another region. I had originally thought she'd be born in Taldor (she has a Taldor Regional Trait), and move to Cheliax and become a member of the Cheliax faction (since they have such close ties to devils), but I read in the Inner Sea World Guide that Chelaxians hate tieflings as "fleshy proof of a lapse of control over diabolic temptation" and are very oppressed there.

So, would it make sense for her to be born in Cheliax, and move to Taldor? Or perhaps is there some other region/faction better suited to a "refugee" of sorts? Being born in Cheliax certainly seems to fit the bill - is Taldor a good home for her to escape persecution?

(And do I actually have to be from the specific area my trait's from?)

Scarab Sages

"Lost? Persecuted? Oppressed? Afraid? Yearning to breathe...free?

Come on down to ANDORAN! Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses! We've got popcorn and peanut butter and beekeepers and tricorn hats and a do-gooder pirate navy and zero tolerance for slavery here! We're everything that...uh...that one place in a parallel universe where there's not enough magic and too much telephoney metadata...we're everything that that place WISHES it was!"

And NO, your faction and home region CAN be different. You may be part of your faction simply because it's where you're from (which of course only works if your faction is also a place, unlike, say, Grand Lodge), but your allegiance may just as easily be due to shared values, goals, some kind of bondage, or maybe you're just a mercenary, you name it. My Andoran character's a rogue false priest from Razmir.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Tell me more... do tieflings freely walk Andoran streets, unafraid of persecution and discrimination?

And how far a journey is it from my native Cheliax?

(( Edit: *does a bit of reading* Oh. Andoran is America. >_> Hehe. And if I'm reading these maps right, it's right between Cheliax and Taldor...))

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Andoran does seem to be a good fit for her. Now I just gotta decide why/how she spent long enough in Taldor to pick up the Precocious Spellcaster trait as a kid, which is a bit of a stretch if I'm assuming she's a Chelaxian native (which I love, since the "has lots of tieflings but is ashamed of them" theme fits her well).

Scarab Sages

The Morphling wrote:

Tell me more... do tieflings freely walk Andoran streets, unafraid of persecution and discrimination?

Well...the entire Golarion setting is frequently cited for being generally racist, but it's safe to assume you're WAY better off in Andoran (a NG nation) than Cheliax (a LE nation). I figure you'd be much more likely that most to run into people who were afraid of or even mean to you, but if you got into trouble somehow, you could expect a fair trial. Liberty and Justice for All - No Really!

As far as background traits go, at least, you can't pick both Taldor and Cheliax - "Regional trait", as it's called, is a single trait category, just like Combat trait, Social trait, or Faction trait, so you can only have one of those EVER. Your life story can be as labyrinthine as you wish it - you just only have so much to show for it in the mechanical benefits department.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
Well...the entire Golarion setting is frequently cited for being generally racist, but it's safe to assume you're WAY better off in Andoran (a NG nation) than Cheliax (a LE nation). I figure you'd be much more likely that most to run into people who were afraid of or even mean to you, but if you got into trouble somehow, you could expect a fair trial. Liberty and Justice for All - No Really!

Hmm. Would there be problems if my backstory never mentioned Taldor at all, but I kept the trait anyway? Seems to me that "precocious spellcasters" could come from anywhere.

I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
As far as background traits go, at least, you can't pick both Taldor and Cheliax - "Regional trait", as it's called, is a single trait category, just like Combat trait, Social trait, or Faction trait, so you can only have one of those EVER. Your life story can be as labyrinthine as you wish it - you just only have so much to show for it in the mechanical benefits department.

She only has the Taldor trait - I just think Cheliax is neat and fits her story. Her other trait is a Magic one.

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I don't have much input on if you'll run into any trouble with people if you don't mention Taldor in your backstory but it wouldn't be a huge stretch to fit it in.

Cheliax, Andoran and Taldor all adjacent to each other and cover the north coast of the inner sea. If you have the Inner Sea World Guide you can take a look at the map there if I'm being unclear.

Andoran and Cheliax are both formerly parts of Taldor although it's been hundreds of years since they declared themselves independent. So I suppose you could try to wrangle that somehow.

As for how people would feel about Tieflings in Andoran. Feelings about Tieflings vary quite a bit, but they're going to be dealing with mistrust at least in most places. Andoran is actually a bit more accepting of them then most places, depending on the individuals to some extent. But in general Andoran loathes Cheliax and they'll see taking in tieflings fleeing from there as another way to stick it to them.

I'm still learning the lore for Golarion so I may have some of that not quite right, but that's my understanding and I hope it's helpful.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

She's a former slave from Cheliax, if that helps. I get the feeling that Andorans don't like slavery, and would be pleased to have freed someone, even if that someone does have freaky scales and a prehensile tail.

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+1 to this ^

Slavery is legal pretty much everywhere in the Inner Sea region except for Andoran, and I think either Nirmathas or Galt, but don't quote me on that.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

How would nations other than Aldoran (and Cheliax) react to an escaped Chelaxian slave within their borders - would she be considered a criminal/property? The costume I designed for her included a scarf around her neck to hide scars from a slave collar, figuring she would want to hide her nature as an escaped slave.

Here's a link to her picture/table placard, if you're interested.

Shadow Lodge 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East

Regional traits only require you to have spent 1 year in the location. If that helps any. I don't remember where I read that.

Andoran or Absalom sound like the best places for her to go after Cheliax. Absalom's enough of a melting pot that they won't care much. (It's a more tolerant Jerusalem) Andoran faction definitely has a branch there, so still easy to be a part of their ideals.

Andorans as a faction or a country both sound like good fits.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Absalom is the megacity at the center of like, everything, right? I'm still learning all my Pathfinder lore.

Silver Crusade

Join the Silver Crusade. It's warm welcoming and serves a greater good.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Paladins make her nervous. All that... holiness. Something about them just doesn't sit right...

Silver Crusade 2/5

The Morphling wrote:
Paladins make her nervous. All that... holiness. Something about them just doesn't sit right...

Perhaps I could help you bridge that gap, seeing as I'm a lawful good tiefling cleric of Iomedae. (I'm even sometimes mistaken for a paladin!)

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Owning or selling slaves is also illegal in the River Kingdoms.

You know, it's odd. I could imagine a culture in Golarion where keeping, say, half-orcs or orcs / hobgoblins as slaves was legal, but not humans or elves. I don't think that distinction is ever made (although I'd be happy to be proven wrong). If a region allows slaves, it allows individuals of any race to be enslaved.

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Chris Mortika wrote:

Owning or selling slaves is also illegal in the River Kingdoms.

You know, it's odd. I could imagine a culture in Golarion where keeping, say, half-orcs or orcs / hobgoblins as slaves was legal, but not humans or elves. I don't think that distinction is ever made (although I'd be happy to be proven wrong). If a region allows slaves, it allows individuals of any race to be enslaved.

Hey! We may be slavers but at least we're not racist!

Shadow Lodge 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East

The Morphling wrote:
Absalom is the megacity at the center of like, everything, right? I'm still learning all my Pathfinder lore.

Correct

Scarab Sages

Chris Mortika wrote:

Owning or selling slaves is also illegal in the River Kingdoms.

You know, it's odd. I could imagine a culture in Golarion where keeping, say, half-orcs or orcs / hobgoblins as slaves was legal, but not humans or elves. I don't think that distinction is ever made (although I'd be happy to be proven wrong). If a region allows slaves, it allows individuals of any race to be enslaved.

Maybe not, but some races in some places might be MORE prone to being enslaved - the example I'm thinking of is (surprise, surprise) Cheliax, where my understanding is that, while anybody could be enslaved, Halflings in particular are singled out for it. A Chelaxian Halfling can be assumed to be a slave.

Historically, slavery and racism aren't normally as tightly bound together as in the American South, which is certainly what every American thinks of when they think of slavery - with regards to the overall history of the institution of slavery, that instance is exceptional, and went through several stages over the centuries, from 'consistent with most historical practices' to 'the worst it's ever been' (don't forget it's still effectively being practiced).

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I agree with nearly everything stated above. Both the Silver Crusade and Andoran would be good faction fits. Tieflings in Taldor would be treated like common people in Taldor.. like dirt. Taldor seemingly only respects faux nobility anyway.

Your character background fits Cheliax perfectly.

Someone mentioned Galt. Ive often wondered if Galt had at any point condoned Slavery. I tend to think not, as they so desperately wanted to be like Andoran. Its possible that one of the wacky decrees the council issued every so often promoted a form of slavery, but im guessing it probably didnt last long.

Andoran was a part of Taldor and then part of Cheliax and as Artoo stated takes in almost anyone as a way of 'sticking it' to those former masters.

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