Question about half dragon breeding

[Caelimwolf]

I found several posts discussing chromatic dragons breeding with metallic dragons and spawning abominations, but what about half dragons? If a half dragon born from a silver and a half dragon born from a white mated, what would be the result?

I understand the ruling that half dragons are typically unable to mate with other non half dragons, but the above scenario was not really covered. Is it safe to assume that for purposes of mating, the two half dragons do not count as silver or white, and fall under a more generic classification?

Would their childs characteristics be randomly decided by one of the parents?

I would love to hear what other people think. If this topic has already been covered somewhere, my apologies, I did not see it :)

[Weirdo]

Caelimwolf wrote:

I understand the ruling that half dragons are typically unable to mate with other non half dragons, but the above scenario was not really covered. Is it safe to assume that for purposes of mating, the two half dragons do not count as silver or white, and fall under a more generic classification?

Where is that ruling? That's totally at odds with the flavour text on the draconic bloodline: "At some point in your family's history, a dragon interbred with your bloodline, and now its ancient power flows through your veins" which requires a half-dragon to have interbred with a humanoid creating a more dilute draconic heritage. There's just no quarter-dragon template, meaning that quarter-dragons either have that bloodline (or eldritch heritage of that bloodline) or else the draconic heritage is only cosmetic.

Caelimwolf wrote:

Would their childs characteristics be randomly decided by one of the parents?

That would be the best way to handle it for simplicity's sake - all it really determines is the type of energy they are immune to and their breath weapon. And in fact for a silver/white crossbreed those are identical. And of course appearance can reflect the mixed heritage.

[Caelimwolf]

There was a discussion that Paizo stated Metallic and Chromatic dragons would breed abominations (the ones that survived).

So for the halfs, i am gussing the genetic material from parents would not eb strong enough to breed second generation abominations? And also factoring in the similarities between the White and Silver, the child should come out a relatively healthy half dragon?

I wonder then betweena red and a silver... hmm.

[Weirdo]

Well, a quick Google tells me the abominations thing was from Rise of the Runelords, which I haven't read.

I've seen a ton of takes on dragon hybrids (some discussed here, including an opinion from James Jacobs). I'm not inclined to consider any of that binding. Interesting to get perspectives and maybe useful if you're running a strict Golarion setting but you're the GM, it's ultimately your world, and none of the suggestions I've seen for dragon interbreeding will negatively affect your game.

Even if we assume that true metallic and chromatic dragons can't interbreed, you really could go either way on the hybrid half-dragons. Though I still think it's easier to randomly pick one energy type if they're not the same (like the red/silver) and let the rest of the details be cosmetic (multicoloured scales!).

[Josh M.]

Pathfinder has half-dragons? Since when?

[+5 Toaster]

Josh M. wrote:

Pathfinder has half-dragons? Since when?

um...bestiary 1

[Eddy Flynn]

I believe that they just need to make an entire companion detailing dragons. and include a new race of "Half-Dragons" like from 3.5 so players can assume this role. (Good thing Draconic Deciple says you can't be a dragon or a draconic subtype)

[Josh M.]

+5 Toaster wrote:

Josh M. wrote:

Pathfinder has half-dragons? Since when?

um...bestiary 1

Really? Hmm, I thought PF did away with level-adjustment race templates. Link?

[Adam Daigle]

Josh M. wrote:

+5 Toaster wrote:

Josh M. wrote:

Pathfinder has half-dragons? Since when?

um...bestiary 1

Really? Hmm, I thought PF did away with level-adjustment race templates. Link?

Half-dragon

We may have gotten rid of LA, but not templates.

[Charlie Bell]

They did away with level adjustments, not templates. Half-dragon template.

[Charlie Bell]

Ooh, Daigle you ninja you.

[Lincoln Hills]

Lordy, what's next? Gnome/pseudodragon hybrids?

(Oh, God, I just caused myself to picture the - er - the initial romance. Do not want!)

[Tom S 820]

Acording to 3.0 Book of Eroric Fantasy a Dragaon can breed with any thing.

[Writer]

Tom S 820 wrote:

Acording to 3.0 Book of Eroric Fantasy a Dragaon can breed with any thing.

In D&D, both dragons and humans seem to be capable of mating with anything and everything.

[+5 Toaster]

Writer wrote:

Tom S 820 wrote:

Acording to 3.0 Book of Eroric Fantasy a Dragaon can breed with any thing.

In D&D, both dragons and humans seem to be capable of mating with anything and everything.

AND DO };)

[Lincoln Hills]

Please, please return to the original, nice, safe rules-oriented topic of the thread! I've got a gibbering mouther stuck in my imagination now and I want it to die of loneliness thankyewverymuch!

[+5 Toaster]

Lincoln Hills wrote:

Please, please return to the original, nice, safe rules-oriented topic of the thread! I've got a gibbering mouther stuck in my imagination now and I want it to die of loneliness thankyewverymuch!

so...I shouldn't post a half-otyugh template...sweet dreams

[Darigaaz the Igniter]

Personally, I always go with hybrid dragons are infertile, and half dragons are only capable of breeding with nondragon partners compatible with their nondragon half.

[EldonG]

+5 Toaster wrote:

Lincoln Hills wrote:

Please, please return to the original, nice, safe rules-oriented topic of the thread! I've got a gibbering mouther stuck in my imagination now and I want it to die of loneliness thankyewverymuch!

so...I shouldn't post a half-otyugh template...sweet dreams

I LOVE aberrations...and templates...the more Lovecraftian the better.

Post please! :D