Just wanted to note that there is a kickstarter going on for various monsters from the Tome of Horrors Complete, some of which also are in the Pathfinder Bestiary. Also one of the pledge tiers comes with a Pathfinder version of the book's PDF.
The link is ( http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/centerstageminis/tome-of-horrors-comple te-28mm-heroic-scale-miniatu )
Fixed the link: Tome of Horrors Complete - 28mm Heroic Scale Miniatures
Edit: Fixed link. --SKR 5/16/13
wha? how did?
oh well. thanks for the fix, carborundum.
Looks like a pretty decent value - hopefully will get even better with continued growth/support.
$100 for 17 miniatures? And most of those are very..umm..limited(?) in usefulness? Think I'll pass.
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At 200 you get whatever they release as stretch goals down the line - 200 is a bit high for me righ now though.
It's actually at 22 minis for $200 but that number is going to go up to 24 (including a large Black Dracolisk mini) very shortly (25k).
I think right now, up front this isn't a great deal, but if it's supported this the 22-24 range can inflate up quite a bit. It's at 23k, but at 47,5 the number of minis for 200 is 34, which = 5.88 a mini. It may be worth it for the Huge Frogemoth mini alone.
Going to keep my eye on this one. If they put out more mini's as stretch goals I will probably dive in.
Auxmaulous, it could be a nice to back at the $100 level and thus we push it up to a higher total freeing up more stretch goals.
I remember the Reaper KS started slowly and it was only as it accelerated that it became really cheap per mini.
Oh wow, now with the last stretch goal being unlocked you can get a Black Dracolisk and 12 miniatures, in metal for $80. At the moment this is an amazing deal, which will only get better...
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Can anyone who's backed Centre Stage's previous kickstarters provide any info as far as fulfillment / delay issues?
Well they sent out an update on the Devils & Demons one, before this KS started. The Torn World is being sent out and being completed this month (one month early), whilst the Devils & Demons one is being completed in June. Or at least that's what I believe he put.
Thus more prompt than Reaper, CMON (Relic Knights) and most other KS's.
Well, I wouldn't call them more prompt than Reaper, per se. The Torn World project only funded 6 miniatures. If he couldn't get those fulfilled quickly that would be pretty terrible. And Demons and Devils was due in March, so he is exactly on par with Reaper's schedule, as it stands now.
The only person I've heard talking about casting quality is someone from Reaper's forums saying the only mini he bought from them was, all in all, awful. Unfinished sculpt with bad miscast parts and extremely poor detail. However, that was a very old piece and might not be reflective of what will be coming down the pipeline now. Especially considering we know he's working with Valiant for casts and the sculptors in his stable are, for the most part, known quantities of decent quality.
For me, there is some real interesting product here. The elven dog is a big plus for me, and I love the jaculi and dracolisk. Those all would be incredibly fun to paint! If things go well, and we get a chance to hear from the Torn World backers how nice the castings for that project are before the end of this one, I could very well drop $50 to get some interesting miniatures.
True, about the Torn World mini's. Pity it was a bit of a flop, but good to see that he's got the production lined up smoothly. Currently the main problem with the Demons & Devils really is the time taken to get the Surveys out (& back).
And agreed I would like that elven dog.
There's a new update today, with how the sizing of mini's work in relation to pledge deals.
That and there are four sculpts left that haven't been finished yet.
recently some wip pics have been posted by CSM of the Demodands, and the completed Al-mi'raj. You can see them here.
That's good to see that there are a few greens and that they are working on them. And with more modellers working on it hopefully they'll be less burden upon any individual and thus it'll come together smoothly.
Plus they are nice for the basic mini's. I half love the Al-mi'raj, it's very animalistic and quite natural.
I will say that I am very excited at the recent stretch goals unveiled. The Ice drake alone makes me giggle like a schoolgirl. One of the backers did a pledge manager and breakdown by cost, as follows.
http://centerstageminis.com/TOH/share.php?u=424
I am fail at posting links, however.
That's 56 minis. If you subtract the two add-ons and two huge models, that's 52 minis (some still large) for $130. Exactly $2.50 per mini. Even with the high dollar items the 56 minis average $3.57 each. Crazy...
The value only increase as more goals are opened up. And that isnt counting the bonus miniatures that get unlocked as a stretch goal is hit. Or the mystery mini that is being custom sculpted, as well as the pick your own mini that we are waiting for someone to decide on.
I would highly recommend getting on board with this.
Just to give everyone a list of the current figures unlocked. With plenty more to come, inluding daily bonus goals that are surprises.
Minis Included at the works level currently:
Basic:
Slime Demodand
Tarry Demodand
Shaggy Demodand
Death Dog
Al'Miraj
Dark Creeper
Crypt Thing
Movanic Deva
Monadic Deva
Carbuncle
3 Corrupter Daemons
Babbler (Dinosaur!)
Charonadaemon
Piscodaemon
Daily Bonus (also included at $100 level):
Red Jester
Inphidian Rattler
Inphidian Cobra Back
Axe Beak
Stretch Goals:
Iron Cobra
Jaculi
Flumph
Forlarren
Eye Killer
Huecuva
Black Dracolisk
2 Vegepygmy Warriors
Vegepygmy Chieftan
Two-Headed Troll
Froghemoth
"Mystery" Monster TBA
Backer Selected Monster TBA
If you select the works part 3 you also get two $20 add ons which would add:
Ice Drake
Salt Drake
Quite a list laid out like that.
Pics of the completed Demodands, and the Eye Killer. Enjoy
I don't think it has been noted above but the various $200 tier levels now also include the E-Z Dungeons Deluxe Edition PDF from Fat Dragon Games, as well as the now 40 metal figures, tome pdf (or addon), and shirt (or addon).
Wow, that's 7 'greens' completed now. So hopefully all the sculpts should be smoother than D&D, and it should alievate any issues with them not having already sculpted items (despite that being one of the most costly parts).
The new sculpts are the Iron Cobra, and the Jaculi. Both sculpted by Drew Williams.
Personally I hope we get to unlock the Glass Wyrm. The thought of it cast in clear resin... The things I could do with that!
I know that could be a really nice mini. And very cheap too, $105 with 21 other models. Or $50 with 4 other mini's.
Of course, some of the more numerous creatures from ToH could be interesting too. Or the elven dog - with would make a great Animal companion.
As it is somewhat relevant I've put together a review of the figures from the previous CSM kickstarter (which arrived for me yesterday). It is long, but the take away is that if ToH ends up having similar or better quality I'll be largely happy with the results.
That's brilliant, Serpine. Glad to hear you received them and the quality. I'm waiting for mine, but hopeful. And virtually what I backed for too.
I didn't hear about the full packaging aspect (and ability to skip), although being in the UK I probably need it.
Thank you for the review & link.
Wow, those new WiP's are brilliant. The Dark Creeper especially and I'm really happy with the demi-liche, despite the small nature of the model - it could be really imposing coming upon a stand.
And the Purple Worm diorama for the $200 pledgers is really good. Although some more expansions for the $100 level could be nice at getting in more backers.
A new Wip of some Tsathar, five in fact! Matt also made a comment about a possible future bonus, or stretch goal. Enjoy!
I know, it's getting really quite inexpensive now at both the main levels. Hopefully it'll hit more goals before the end.
And I do like the fact that you can have encounters solely with Inphidians or Tsathars.
That "Lurker Above" is cool concept art and I'm sure it'll be done justice in metal. I do like the old cloaker creature and as a GM will get a lot of use out of it on unsuspecting PC's.
And what's it now 47 mini's (not including add-on's) in production?
With 23 at the $100 level including quite a few large mini's, and adding on a dragon for $15 that's a good deal.
Nice the Stone Roper has also been unlocked for the $100 level and above & $5 for Large Mini's like a 2-headed Troll is a steal. Even the $15 drake is a Reaper-like steal.
Matt just unloaded three add-ons. The Fire Drake, Splinter Drake (yea!), and the Flail Snail. Each for $15..
Also the new bonus goal is up, and it's a Mongrelman at 59,200. Putting it between the current and next stretch goals.
This is flying up today, Stone Roper, Korred, Cooshee, Kamadan & Solifugid all added to the $200 level. Making it $4 a mini, that's including Large & Huge Mini's !
And under $1,000 from 4 more mini's.
I'm very enthused about what is happening: With the latest goal hit adding 5 more it is now just $3.51 per figure at the $200 level (10 of them small, 7 of them large, and 2 of them huge).
And it is still 8 hours out from the final day so its likely to get at least several more added, including the next few pictured goals that are of large or huge size.
I know the clear resin Crystal Drake looks amazing and the Huge Jack-In-Irons could be magnificent too.
Damn, this has really been smashing through those stretch goals! I'm really happy about the Glass Wyrm and Jack-In-Irons, but now I'm getting greedy and want the Gorgimera, Furnace Golem and Lucifer too. :-)
I wonder if it'll make it to $100K for that final stretch goal.
That's the amazing thing about KS's, if it takes off as much as this then you still want more - especially of these potentially amazing mini's.
Now, I just have to decide where to get the ToH pdf, I'm not a pdf fan... but the stat's for the mini's are essential.
Yeah, the levels are quite expensive. Of course taken individually it's very reasonable (esp. for metal), however these should be available later (at a greater price).
Tier Calculations:
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$100 = 27 Models (27 M) = $3.70 per model ($3.70) per M.
$200 = 60 Models (72 M) = $3.33 per model ($2.78) per M, before counting PDF/shirt/options.
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(honours go to Serpine for constructing this)
*sigh* so tempting, but nothing available in the budget.
You are not alone matthew. I am right there with you. Lots of desire, no cash.
Only 4 hours left....
(btw... if your pledge $1, it might be opened later - probably at slightly inflated prices to backers. That happened to Demons & Devils KS by the same company.)
A little less then three hours left! Now lets nab that furnace Golem! We gotta keep those frost giants warm at night!
Furnace Golem, and Glass Wyurm are down. Next up is the cave fisher at 90k!
Wow, that was a wild ride. Probably went as high as I could go.
Cave Fisher Goal - COMPLETED
Angel Chalkyri, Shedu & Lucifer - COMPLETED
Tome of Horrors Mini - FAILED :(
That's a ton of mini's, should be excellent waiting for the greens. In some ways the KS could definitely have gone smoother, but the massive influx near the end really helped and made this a success for all (hopefully a financial one too).
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Apologies for the Threadomancy, but I figured this would be of interest to any backers who hadn't already heard about this. Frog God is offering PDF coupons to their store for backers who got screwed by Center Stage filing for bankrupcy (covering Tome of Horrors I and II Kickstarters). Details here