Sorcerer Question?

[Gary Sarver]

Looking at making a Sorcerer for my Daughter who received a Kitsune cronical this past weekend. Is for Society play. Am wondering if you can combine Cross blooded, with Wild Blooded. Here is what is looking like.

Shadow Wild Blooded Umbral
Rakshasa

Wild Blooded says that you need to use Arcana and Blood line power from it in place of your normal bloodline. But, Cross Blooded allows you to take your pick of the 2 options for Powers. Obviously you have to use the Umbral Power over the shadow power. But in this case, she wants to take Silver Tongue from Rakshas instead of taking the Umbral ability cloak of shadows.
Would this be legal for Pathfinder Society play?

[Rynjin]

If memory serves, Crossblooded/Wildblooded is not PFS legal.

This question comes up a lot.

[Gary Sarver]

Any reason why? But that is ok, will just do Cross Blooded. Should be able to do just fine with that.

[Dust Raven]

To the best of my knowledge, it's perfectly legal in PFS to have both the wildblooded and crossblooded archetypes. As to how they interact, the wildblooded bloodline is just treated like any other heritage.

Really, I'm not even sure why wildblooded is even an archetype instead of just adding in a number of new bloodlines which are remarkably similar to existing ones.

[leo1925]

You should better ask in the PFS side of the forum if it's legal to use both wildblooded and crossblooded archetypes, things are a little murky.

@Dust Raven
Same here, i can't think of any reason (except page count) to make wildblooded an archetype and not additional bloodlines.

[LazarX]

Keep in mind that by taking crossblooded, you weaken one of the few things that separates you from the BDF, by taking a significant hit to your will saves. There's also a serious hit to your spell capacity as well, which she may find frustrating over the long run.

[Grick]

Dust Raven wrote:

To the best of my knowledge, it's perfectly legal in PFS to have both the wildblooded and crossblooded archetypes.

Michael Brock (Pathfinder Society Campaign Coordinator) wrote:

Those two can't be combined.

[Spaarky]

The source can be found here

In short by rule of archetypes, both modify the bloodline, and as such, are mutually exclusive.

[Michael Sayre]

Unfortunately, they are both archetypes which modify the Bloodline class feature, and are mutually exclusive.

"A character can take more than one archetype and garner additional alternate class features, but none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature from the core class as another alternate class feature."

[Gary Sarver]

Got it, its not legal. Not a problem.

And Yes, it hurts the will saves, and spell capacity is down a bit. But she is only 7 years old. So that is not a bad thing. Since she will only have 1 first level spell to start. And 3 Orisons. Less choices makes it easier. Besides she is a Kitsune. Her disguise is +28 at first level. +15 to bluff and +8 UMD. She will not be versatile but very good at what little she does do. But mostly, she should have fun doing it. And she can always get a 1st level wand after each adventure to use.

[Dust Raven]

Grick wrote:

Dust Raven wrote:

To the best of my knowledge, it's perfectly legal in PFS to have both the wildblooded and crossblooded archetypes.

Michael Brock (Pathfinder Society Campaign Coordinator) wrote:

Those two can't be combined.

Damn my lack of omniscience!

It's even in the Compilation of message board clarifications for PFS Rulings thread, which I completely did not check before posting.