Dragon Parentage?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


I have a player who was interested in playing a character who was the child of a dragon. Naturally I did some research and it seems to be a relatively common thing in forgotten realms. I am assuming it's safe to say that there are no rules regarding dragon type restrictions due to alignment, am I correct?

I mean I did not see anything to say this was the case anywhere so i figured I would ask.

What do you guys think?

Also, are their any famous characters that have a dragon parent that directly opposes them?


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Metallic dragons are still typically good and chromatic ones are still typically evil, as it was in DnD.

He should probably be a sorcerer, Draconic bloodline, as having dragon blood is a part of the class. If he wants to be a half dragon, though... Well thats up to you. Monster PCs are hard to balance, but you can do it by having him start off at a lower class leel than everyone else.


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Is the player interested in getting mechanical advantages from being related to a dragon? Draconic bloodline sorcerer, then dragon disciple might be an option.


Bearded Ben wrote:
Is the player interested in getting mechanical advantages from being related to a dragon? Draconic bloodline sorcerer, then dragon disciple might be an option.

Yeah he definitely wants to be a sorcerer. A Chaotic good Sorc with blue dragon affinity.


Caelimwolf wrote:
Bearded Ben wrote:
Is the player interested in getting mechanical advantages from being related to a dragon? Draconic bloodline sorcerer, then dragon disciple might be an option.
Yeah he definitely wants to be a sorcerer. A Chaotic good Sorc with blue dragon affinity.

Blue dragons are Lawful Evil, so a Chaotic Good character certainly fell far from the tree.


My Dragon Disciple is the child of a homely human woman and her whirlwind relationship with a mysterious elf from out of town. Unfortunately for my lawful neutral ex soldier, this elf happened to be tainted with the blood of a black dragon... Or maybe he was the black dragon himself - I've left this part up to my DM.

Either way, my Lawful Neutral alignment hasn't held up well. My character is currently Chaotic Neutral and is struggling against all odds to resist "hulking out" every time something stressful happens (learning some bad information, taking 20+ points of damage in a round, being insulted,etc.) I make self imposed will saves (DC 20 or higher) and if I fail them, I drop my sword, grow my claws and go to town with claw, claw, bite. You should have seen the face of the female NPC we were escorting when it happened the first time, lol. She must have thought I was a monster.

I am intending for my character to end up as a chaotic good. He will see his progenitor and all like him as seeds of pure destruction, and vow to rid the world of them. However, as of right now (8th level), he still doesn't really understand exactly what it is that's affecting him. Though last session, one of the other character pointed out my hardening skin and affinity for acidic effects, so I think he's coming around. Also, it's hard to ignore the breath weapon he just received last level, so when he fails his first save to hulk out, I have him throw that.

Anyways, that's just my quick story about my DD. It's pretty fun to play a character with a major flaw like this one - you can make your character's story practically revolve around it pretty easily. Not to mention it gives DMs something to work with if they need a way to hook the party into an adventure.


Not every dragon slayer wins the fight... in the bedroom.


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Blueluck wrote:
Caelimwolf wrote:
Bearded Ben wrote:
Is the player interested in getting mechanical advantages from being related to a dragon? Draconic bloodline sorcerer, then dragon disciple might be an option.
Yeah he definitely wants to be a sorcerer. A Chaotic good Sorc with blue dragon affinity.
Blue dragons are Lawful Evil, so a Chaotic Good character certainly fell far from the tree.

Which doesn't mean that it is impossible. The sorcerer is still at least half human and thus should have at least the potential to develop an individual alignment.


A liberal coming from conservative parents, an atheist from the religious, etc.

The dragon blood concept could be a result of experimentation, interference, the blood may not be from parents or ancestors. Get Yuan-ti, Snakefolk or Lizardfolk involved in some sort of conspiracy around this "modified" humannn.


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This is a concept that I love, i've played it more then once. If he is fine just playing a draconic bloodline sorceror thats fine.

If he wants racial influence, technically he should be a half dragon, but the half dragon template is very powerful when compared to a normal race. You could balance this by puting the other players at a higher level, but if he wants to play a sorceror being a lower level is a problem.

If you want you can use the rules from a 3rd party product called Super Genius Games Presents Races Revised: The Kobold Kings. They have rules for a 'kobold' race that is on par with the standard pc races. There is even one alternate racial feature that lets them be medium sized, there is also a number of feats in there that let them be more and more 'dragony'. If he wants the dragon blood to be reflected in his race, I recommend using the rules from that product to keep him balanced with the normal races.


If, in your world, you define the alignments of dragon to be strictly cultural (ie. dragons raising dragons) then it's no problem that he'd be whatever alignment his parents had. If, however, the dragon's evil is some inborn part of him, like a natural tendency for aggression and greed wired into his brain, then he would probably struggle a lot with his morality, which would make for GREAT roleplaying, but it's more complicated to play right.


Big Lemon wrote:
If, in your world, you define the alignments of dragon to be strictly cultural (ie. dragons raising dragons) then it's no problem that he'd be whatever alignment his parents had. If, however, the dragon's evil is some inborn part of him, like a natural tendency for aggression and greed wired into his brain, then he would probably struggle a lot with his morality, which would make for GREAT roleplaying, but it's more complicated to play right.

Actually I like that idea and may steal it sometime. Since dragons don't seem to be family oriented at all, the alignment would appear to be inherent to the nature of dragon type. This would cause such a character to have to consciously choose a CG act when her instincts are telling her that the LE option is right. Even better because so often CG winds up being a "wimp" alignment for players who don't want to hassle with alignment.


cnetarian wrote:
Big Lemon wrote:
If, in your world, you define the alignments of dragon to be strictly cultural (ie. dragons raising dragons) then it's no problem that he'd be whatever alignment his parents had. If, however, the dragon's evil is some inborn part of him, like a natural tendency for aggression and greed wired into his brain, then he would probably struggle a lot with his morality, which would make for GREAT roleplaying, but it's more complicated to play right.

I would have to say that in most people's views & worlds, greed & agression is a natural part of the chromatic dragons. This is certainly the way we've always played it.

cnetarian wrote:
Actually I like that idea and may steal it sometime. Since dragons don't seem to be family oriented at all, the alignment would appear to be inherent to the nature of dragon type. This would cause such a character to have to consciously choose a CG act when her instincts are telling her that the LE option is right. Even better because so often CG winds up being a "wimp" alignment for players who don't want to hassle with alignment.

This is basically exactly the way I'm playing my DD. He's wired towards chaos & evil (though I tend to focus more on the chaotic nature as my group tends to avoid inner group conflicts at all times) and struggles to maintain himself. At the end of his career, I believe he'll have given up completely on the order of law and instead focused his efforts on staving off his evil desires. My intent is to turn him into an evil dragon hunter. We'll see how that works out though, lol. Last session he was prepared to murder a man in cold blood...

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