| Aluvial |
Hello again helpful boards,
Does anyone know of a chart of the creatures (or better yet) or program that calculates stats for Wild Shape?
The list of Small and Medium animals would be helpful, a program that allowed you to select that animal after putting in base stats would be the most helpful thing I could find.
Thanks again,
Aluvial
| Grick |
The list of Small and Medium animals would be helpful
Other Spreadsheets on d20pfsrd has "Pathfinder Animals" has Animals list sorted by size for use with Wild Shape plus magical beasts at end of list for Beast Shape.
I'm not vouching for it, I just found it with a quick search.
a program that allowed you to select that animal after putting in base stats would be the most helpful thing I could find.
Remember, you don't use any actual stats for the animal other than what's listed in the relevant spell. (and size modifiers)
Medium animal, for example, is always a +2 size bonus to your Strength and a +2 natural armor bonus. The only stuff that really varies is the things like vision, movement speed, and special attack stuff (like pounce, grab, trip, etc.).
Shar Tahl
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Once I get home, I will post up the wildshape tracking sheet I use. It is good to plan ahead what kind of shapes you would want to use so a lot of time isn't spent looking things up. What I basically do is have a few for each size category, a few with special abilities like trip,pounce and grab, a few that fly, a few for resistances (elementals). I think with my PFS druid at level 12, I had about 16-20 wildshapes all planned out.
The d20pfsrd.com monster Database is a good reference that you can sort to exclude all but animals, then order by size.
Check out the archetypes as well. There are some neat options you can get that normal druids don't. Mountain Druid has the ability to change into Giant subtype as Giant Form 1 and 2.
| Aluvial |
A lot of people use hero lab, which does all the calculations and stuff on the fly. Again, not vouching, just mentioning it. I think it's fairly expensive (and you don't learn the rules nearly as well as doing it all by hand) but the people who use it seem to like it.
I have considered that option, but I really prefer understanding why the changes are occuring. I've DM'd a 3.5 campaign for over a decade now, and have only started a pathfinder(ish) campaign.
I use a lot of house rules, but have essentially given the core pathfinder system a chance. Thanks for the advice. I know that stating the wild shape creatures should be an easy task. I'm suprised it hasn't been done yet.
Aluvial
| Aluvial |
it is mostly because it is based on the character stats, which vary from character to character. There is no static statblock for a wildshape.
But that would be the entry part of the program that should be easy to accomplish. Then just add the creature as selected, and wham, statblock. I'll keep looking or try to attempt my own.
Aluvial
| Skylancer4 |
Most character sheets I've seen have a box for temporary stats, enter in adjustment for the wildshape there and no spreadsheet needed. Given that wildshape/spells limit what you get from any particular form and it makes more sense to just have the spell(s) handy as what is on that list is all you are getting.
Example, form Y might have a fly speed of 120 but you may only get 90 due to the version of wildshape you are using at that level.
I'm going to say the amount of effort it would take to make said spreadsheet vastly outweighs its usefulness in PFRPG (vs 3.5 where you got it all). Most people I've played with have a handful of forms they use normally, and have the stats on cards or partial stat blocks (natural attacks, SA/SQs) on a reference sheet. By the time you've alt tabbed to start entering stats and choosing drop downs, they flipped the page and are ready to go/are waiting for you. Obviously this is 'core' rules, maybe your house rules change that ;)
| UndeadViking |
As someone mentioned, there are good druid guides out there that have this information, but no program I know of that auto-calculates it and applies the changes to your character.
The excel spreadsheet is a great idea if it could list the Str/Dex/Con changes for each form, though they will vary according to the size of the creature and the version of Beast Shape that's used (based on the druid's level).
A new free Web Enhancement PDF for the Grimoire Viperian Shapeshifter base class is coming out that will contain basic lists of recommended animal and magical beast forms and why they are recommended (speed, number of attacks, special abilities gained, etc.).
Though the list is intended for the Shapeshifter class, it's a good guide for druid players using wild shape, as well. If you really like wild shaping as a druid, you'll probably like the Shapeshifter class.
| Ivan Blanco Catalán |
Have you visited http://pftools.pixub.com?
I made it some time ago and it's a powerful tool that druids will love.
James Risner
Owner - D20 Hobbies
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A lot of people use hero lab, which does all the calculations and stuff on the fly. Again, not vouching, just mentioning it. I think it's fairly expensive (and you don't learn the rules nearly as well as doing it all by hand) but the people who use it seem to like it.
The current versions of HeroLab actually support wild shape forms where you select the form and it auto calculates everything.
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