Bane Baldric + Unarmed strike


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So my question is can Monk attune his unarmed strike to the Bane Baldric even if they don't have an Inquistor level? ie (puns intended) can a Monk hang them selves on the baldric to attune to it?

I don't see any viable reason this cannot happen. But, I do see how it could be limited to say one hand and not all attacks made by a flury of blows or TWF.


CDR Derf wrote:
the Bane Baldric

It would be helpful if you mentioned what this is, where it's from, and possibly even the relevant associated rules.


I would agree with your assessment. Bane Baldric is an item from Ultimate Equipment.


Bane Baldric: This ornate sash of embroidered velvet stretches across the chest from shoulder to waist. If the wearer is an inquisitor,
she is treated as five levels higher when using her bane
and greater bane abilities. If the wearer is not an inquisitor,
she gains the bane ability of a 5th-level inquisitor, but
must first attune a light or one-handed melee weapon to
the baldric by hanging it from the cloth for 24 hours, and
can only use the bane ability with the attuned weapon.
Attuning a new weapon to the baldric ends the attunement
for the previous weapon. (Direct cut and paste of item description apearing in the Ultimate equipment guide)

BasiclyI just want to make sure it would RAW usable with an unarmed strike(US).

And Like i said before I suspect it would be for one US, but if you can give me a valid reason why it would apply to all attacks of a FoB or TWF I'm all ears.


works for me


CDR Derf wrote:

If the wearer is not an inquisitor,

she gains the bane ability of a 5th-level inquisitor, but
must first attune a light or one-handed melee weapon to
the baldric by hanging it from the cloth for 24 hours, and
can only use the bane ability with the attuned weapon.

Looks good to me.

Monk Unarmed Strike: "A monk's unarmed strike is treated as both a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons."

Inquisitor Bane (Su): "At 5th level, an inquisitor can imbue one of her weapons with the bane weapon special ability as a swift action."

Sounds like both the belt effect and Bane are effects that enhance or improve manufactured weapons.

CDR Derf wrote:
And Like i said before I suspect it would be for one US, but if you can give me a valid reason why it would apply to all attacks of a FoB or TWF I'm all ears.

If "Unarmed Strike" is a single weapon, then it would apply to any unarmed strikes you make in a flurry. That also means you can't TWF with two unarmed strike body parts or whatever.

If it's not a single weapon, but a collection of limbs, then it would probably just apply to one of them. But that's getting into the Flurry of Controversy, and there be dragons.


So the bane would apply to all of my unarmed strikes? Do I have to use a knowledge check to use the bane ability for they 5 rounds per day.


You can't. An unarmed strike is treated like a weapon, but it isn't actually a weapon. To put it another way, the "strike" is a weapon, not the fist or the foot or whatever is used to make it. A strike is an action. You cannot hang an action from the item.


From the weapon description in the CRB for unarmed strike
"An unarmed strike is always considered a light weapon Therefore, you can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with an unarmed strike."
RAW unarmed strikes are considered light weapons. So I would rule that you could could use the Bane Baldric with an unarmed strike.

As for hanging the weapon from the cloth, just have a party member enlarge the strap with a sowing kit or something and just kinda sit in it for 24 hours to get for whole body.

Sorry for my lack of post editing knowledge.

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