Fast Learner

[Knight who says Meh]

Shiniryuu wrote:

The source of the confusion about this feat is that the benefit section is a run-on sentence.

So important it had to be said twice?

[The Raven Black]

Repeated Necrothread sounds like a good name for a Feat

[Nefreet]

Knight who says Meh wrote:

Shiniryuu wrote:

The source of the confusion about this feat is that the benefit section is a run-on sentence.

So important it had to be said twice?

Thrice!

[Ravingdork]

Just take the Cunning feat and put your favored class bonus into HP. That way you get both ranks and HP, but the feat has less prerequisites and causes less confusion.

[miscdebris]

Or, take it with the Nemesis feat, and get all three.

[BigNorseWolf]

Or toughness, and live through first level AND have all the skillpoints.

[Ravingdork]

Go for all of the above, and just have oodles of hit points and skill ranks. :D

[graystone]

Ravingdork wrote:

Go for all of the above, and just have oodles of hit points and skill ranks. :D

A human Monk of the Sacred Mountain can manage all of them at 2nd. Or be a dwarf (any class) and wait till 3rd. ;)

EDIT: I'm more a fan of the smart dumb guy.
Reflexive Improvisation, untrained skill checks [+2 racial]
Improvisation , untrained skill checks [+2]
Improved Improvisation , untrained skill checks [+2]
Evangelist: Multitude of Talents, untrained skill checks [+4 profane/sacred]
Total: + 10 untrained skill checks.

Just toss your actual skill points in trained only skills and you're golden! ;)

[miscdebris]

graystone wrote:

Ravingdork wrote:

Go for all of the above, and just have oodles of hit points and skill ranks. :D

A human Monk of the Sacred Mountain can manage all of them at 2nd. Or be a dwarf (any class) and wait till 3rd. ;)

EDIT: I'm more a fan of the smart dumb guy.
Reflexive Improvisation, untrained skill checks [+2 racial]
Improvisation , untrained skill checks [+2]
Improved Improvisation , untrained skill checks [+2]
Evangelist: Multitude of Talents, untrained skill checks [+4 profane/sacred]
Total: + 10 untrained skill checks.

Just toss your actual skill points in trained only skills and you're golden! ;)

I have a half-elf fighter/bard VMC going this route with Divine fighting style (Desna) with a dip in Lore Oracle. Dumb as a post (7 int), but very pretty (20 starting cha). Cha to attack, damage, init, ac, ref, some will, knowledge checks, acrobatics, and fly. So his knowledge checks at 13 (his current level) are at 10 (above stuff) + 6 (bardic knowledge) + 8 (cha) = 24 without a single rank.

Hell, with this, I really need to think if I want to put any ranks in things. 1 rank will drop the skill check by 6/9, so it better be worth it.

[Snowlilly]

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Or toughness, and live through first level AND have all the skillpoints.

Or, if you happen to have feats to burn (fighter), take Toughness, Fast Learner, and Cunning.

None of the feats are mutually exclusive.

[Wrong John Silver]

Where's the Cunning feat?

[TriOmegaZero]

Villian Codex, I think.

[Rysky]

Yep.

[miscdebris]

Snowlilly wrote:

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Or toughness, and live through first level AND have all the skillpoints.

Or, if you happen to have feats to burn (fighter), take Toughness, Fast Learner, and Cunning.

None of the feats are mutually exclusive.

Don't forget Spirit Ridden. Wandering Class Skill with HD skill points.

[taks]

It still strikes me as odd that the feat offers you an additional bump if you take a skill point and a hit point, or... what you already have an option to get if you don't take the feat. That seems wrong on so many levels...

[Knight who says Meh]

taks wrote:

It still strikes me as odd that the feat offers you an additional bump if you take a skill point and a hit point, or... what you already have an option to get if you don't take the feat. That seems wrong on so many levels...

If you take Power Attack you can deal more damage at the cost of accuracy or you can choose not to do that at which point the feat does nothing.