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I have a character who plans to play a Demon-spawn Tiefling Paladin of Ragathiel and I'm wondering if anybody has come up with a Paladin code for the Empyreal Lord of chivalry, duty, and vengeance.
I haven't exactly come up with a code but avengening the wronged should be a part of it.
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Which product is he specifically called out as a usable object of worship? And yes, avenging wrongs would be a big part. He could also be the patron god of Good Tieflings
He has domains and so I assume he's worshipable as domains are player choices as opposed to portfolios. (Domains are: Archon (Good and Law), Destruction, Leadership, Martyr, Nobility, Rage)
and Inner Sea World Guide I think.
But, no, sadly no paladin code. I remember Mikaze starting a thread for the Champion of Irori to try and get codes and vows to make that PrC applicable to other gods and philosophies. If it got off the ground then there should be interesting things in it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain that the Empyreal Lords are Demigods. Which are most definitely available for worship. And yes he has domains which is a heavy implication as well..
For now I've told my player to follow the portfolio of Ragathiel (chivalry, chastity, duty, and vengeance). An interesting comment made by somebody else on the boards was that most good deities use the wording "justice" or "retribution", and not something as dark as vengeance.
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I'm not too familiar with Ragathiel, but I like a challenge so here's what I came up with:
Paladin Code of Ragathiel
* Evil actions in my presence are as a gauntlet laid down in challenge. I shall pick up the gauge and stand tall in my defiance of the foul. Those curs who seek to entrap me thus will find that as the one challenged, it is I who select the weapons. They may not be to their liking, but they will be honorable ones.
* Those that have wronged the innocent will feel my god's wrath made manifest in me. They will find no succor in shadow, no safety in numbers, and no fortress in power that I will not eventually overcome. I do not hunt foolishly, but nor do I abandon the trail.
* Duties laid upon me in the cause of the right are not chains, but rather chances to prove my worth, and joys to occupy the heart. Be it with quiet dignity or loud praise, I shall fulfill them.
* Should I share my heart with another mortal, my love's honor shall be as my own, below only Ragethiel's calling. As my spirit belongs only to Ratathiel, so will I share of the flesh only with my love.
* Should someone cry quarter but be already sentenced to death, I shall inform them of their upcoming execution so they may better prepare themselves when I strike. Should the judgment not yet be final, I will stay my hand until I know whether it is right to cut the thread holding the sword of right over them or to extend my hand and lift them up as an innocent.
* A good name means much, but it is by actions that I shall truly judge a stranger's worth. A beggar may rise to help against evil where a king might back into the shadows, in such cases, it is the beggar I call brother.
A bit hot under the collar, but it has a good feel. Nice!
Well, he has 5 wings, and his colors are red and silver, and his followers usually have a flame-colored ornament/sigil worn on their body, generally a helmet.
Thats all i could find searching wikis and such.
A bit hot under the collar, but it has a good feel. Nice!
Thanks! I tried to get all the aspects in there but might have leaned a bit too much on the vengeful part as that stood out more for reasons Dunebugg mentioned.
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Does anyone know what Ragathiel's Holy Symbol looks like? I've been curious on this for a while, and still have 2 Clerics in play that are interested, (not to mention a little beyond he is the general of heaven born of a demon and I believe a fire elemental or something).
He's the son of Dispater, one of the Dukes of Hell, and a fire elemental demigoddess, actually.
Does anyone know what Ragathiel's Holy Symbol looks like? I've been curious on this for a while, and still have 2 Clerics in play that are interested, (not to mention a little beyond he is the general of heaven born of a demon and I believe a fire elemental or something).
Nothing official, but in this thread
http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz31ya?Ragathiel#20Someone did their own take on it.
Ick. That code I whiped out has Ragathiel's name wrong at least once and a few typoes as well. Yikes.
Im in the process of making a paladin of Ragathiel and you all have some great ideas here that I will be borrowing from. Well done and thank you.
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I would include supporting redemption of those who honestly seek it, as Ragathiel may have had a hard road. Plus, it might be a draw for tieflings and other characters who might be acting against stereotypes.
Same'd. Ragathiel would actually come across as hypocritical if he scorned the concept of redemption!
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I would include supporting redemption of those who honestly seek it, as Ragathiel may have had a hard road. Plus, it might be a draw for tieflings and other characters who might be acting against stereotypes.Same'd. Ragathiel would actually come across as hypocritical if he scorned the concept of redemption!
If you can forgive the reference to the Lord of the Rings, maybe this will work.
Not all who wander are lost. A noble soul may wear a strange form and all who have free will can rise from the darkness into the light. We must judge others by their words and actions, not their form. A true villain may have a fair form and a good heart can lie beneath a foul visage.
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"Champion the forgotten, the downfallen, the downtrodden, the maimed, the broken, the unjustly outcast and exiled. When others turn against you for standing betwixt them and unrighteous vendetta driven by prejudice, stand firm. Remember always: What is to give light must also endure burning."
"Do not suffer the manipulative and the truly vile to use your compassion against you, or to hide behind a veil of false oppression. I have given you the means to discern the True from the False. The weak are to be protected. The truly evil who hide behind a veneer of weakness, are not to be tolerated."
(Because for every ten genuinely innocent but monstrously appearing downtrodden, there's at least one genuinely vile bastard willing to hide behind the others to get their evil work done.)
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"Champion the forgotten, the downfallen, the downtrodden, the maimed, the broken, the unjustly outcast and exiled. When others turn against you for standing betwixt them and unrighteous vendetta driven by prejudice, stand firm. Remember always: What is to give light must also endure burning."
"Do not suffer the manipulative and the truly vile to use your compassion against you, or to hide behind a veil of false oppression. I have given you the means to discern the True from the False. The weak are to be protected. The truly evil who hide behind a veneer of weakness, are not to be tolerated."
(Because for every ten genuinely innocent but monstrously appearing downtrodden, there's at least one genuinely vile bastard willing to hide behind the others to get their evil work done.)
Sounds very good to me.
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"Never forget, you are not merely a warrior in service of a higher cause, you are a living example to every soul you pass of what they too can be, if they will dedicate their hearts to the righteous struggle. For some, you will be one of a handful of lights in a black night sky. For others, you may be the only light they ever see. With every act, you teach mortals what they have it in themselves to be. Avenge the wronged, succor the weak, be swift in wrath, swifter to forgive. Be first in battle and first to accept surrender. Never judge a soul by appearances, for in my radiance, the horns and hoof of the fiend are made glorious and holy."
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I'm flattered that you think so. I have a soft spot for the notion of Ragathiel as a simultaneously avenging and succoring figure, and I've always seen paladins as heroes who existed to be a living example to other people of what they can be if they strive for it. The best paladins understand that the world is not as good as their ideals make others believe them to naively think, but they continue to anyway.
Victory isn't always about winning the fight. Sometimes it's about proving to people whose souls are in peril that they always have it in them to be better than they think they are. Even if you die doing that, reaching the heart of another by doing so means you've done your highest duty. I really like the notion of Ragathiel as the guy who proves that by his very existence.
"I Am That which proves You Are Not Forgotten. I Am The voice that defies darkness to claim you by right of blood or avarice. Stand, mortal. Look upon MY visage and know that you are Glorified in MY sight. All Shadows Must Yield Before The Cleansing Fire."
Resurrection x2 lol