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I thought I remember reading a story, or description of a giant cannon that one guy cleans every day in a PCS book. I thought it was in the mana waste or Brevoy?
Am I thinking of a different world setting?
Where might I discover such? (I’ve been searching for a week now.) I may have just made this all up. .. :-(
There's a giant cannon in Alkenstar used to threaten monsters coming off the mana wastes. There is another one the Taldans used exploring Mwangi, it hangs in the home of the Gorilla King now.
==Aelryinth
Either Worldbreaker or the Great Maw of Rovagug?
EDIT: partially ninja'd
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The Gorilla King and his cannon is a module waiting to happen.
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The Worldbreaker isn't a cannon... it's a dwarven-built siege engine artifact with the ability to project elemental effects quite far.
The Maw of Rovagug IS a giant cannon.
Both belong to the Gorilla King, last I heard. It's like he's stockpiling. Or something. For some reason.
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The Worldbreaker isn't a cannon... it's a dwarven-built siege engine artifact with the ability to project elemental effects quite far.
The Maw of Rovagug IS a giant cannon.
Both belong to the Gorilla King, last I heard. It's like he's stockpiling. Or something. For some reason.
So, the ISWG and the PFCS are both wrong?
The second-largest bombard ever created, a massive cannon
known as the Great Maw of Rovagug, constitutes much of
the Gunworks’ defensive strength. With a range measured
in miles, the bombard has mostly seen use in defense
against giants and other incursions from the mountains to
the west; it is relied on as a defense against the possibility
that the Gorilla King may send a second army into the
Mana Wastes from this direction.
The
largest known cannon in the world, a broken and blackened
device called Worldbreaker that hangs in the treasure hall
of the great Silverback King of Usaro, measures a full 30S
in diameter.
The Great Maw of Rovagug: This huge bombard, the
second-largest ever crafted, is built into the face of the
Hellfallen Cliffs. The immense weapon has an 81-inch bore, a
maximum range of 19 miles, and a minimum range of 8 miles.
Its shells weigh 3 tons and require 14 men 1 hour to load. Since
its completion 200 years ago, the Great Maw has only been
fired twice: once as a demonstration and once to imperil a trio
of sandkrakens (although the bombard did not score a direct
hit, its immense shell created a 60-foot crater that caused the
immense creatures to scatter).
I'm intrigued as to how the gorrila king might possess a cannon that is built into the Hellfallen Cliffs. Do tell?
I'm intrigued as to why anyone would build a bombard into a cliff. It kind of prevents aiming. Any attack not directly down the cannon's firing line will avoid it entirely.
In real life the french build an entire line of fortification like this.
As I recall it didn't work out very well.
I'm intrigued as to why anyone would build a bombard into a cliff. It kind of prevents aiming. Any attack not directly down the cannon's firing line will avoid it entirely.
Ever watched The Guns of Navarrone?
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I'm intrigued as to how the gorrila king might possess a cannon that is built into the Hellfallen Cliffs. Do tell?The Great Maw of Rovagug: This huge bombard, the
second-largest ever crafted, is built into the face of the
Hellfallen Cliffs. The immense weapon has an 81-inch bore, a
maximum range of 19 miles, and a minimum range of 8 miles.
Its shells weigh 3 tons and require 14 men 1 hour to load. Since
its completion 200 years ago, the Great Maw has only been
fired twice: once as a demonstration and once to imperil a trio
of sandkrakens (although the bombard did not score a direct
hit, its immense shell created a 60-foot crater that caused the
immense creatures to scatter)
Furthermore why would someone need a Cannon that large to fight of a Trio of Sand Krakens, they are only CR8 Large aberrations which by the standard of Pathfinder isn't really "immense" by any scope of the imagination. Perhaps the writer thought Sand Krakens are like normal Krakens but with sand?!
Either that, or someone recalled that it's possible to HD-advance monsters to larger sizes :)
Or even more likely, perhaps, the official Pathfinder sand krakens won't be immobile CR 8 creatures.
Besides, even Large CR 8 aberrations can be quite difficult to fight off for a city or encampment without high-level NPCs (or PCs) around. Even if they had been fought off by conventional means, three such creatures could devastate a community.
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Either that, or someone recalled that it's possible to HD-advance monsters to larger sizes :)
That's an acceptable if extremely general observation, perhaps golarion needs to be saved from a bunch of HD advanced Colossal Dire Bears. I also find the idea of missing 3 "immobile" creatures, which then caused them to "scatter" highly amusing.
Besides, even Large CR 8 aberrations can be quite difficult to fight off for a city or encampment without high-level NPCs (or PCs) around. Even if they had been fought off by conventional means, three such creatures could devastate a community.
We're not talking about Sand Point we're talking about the "Alkenstar Gunworks" per the rules on advanced firearms they've probably got enough stockpiled firepower there to "single round" the Tarraesque.
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The Worldbreaker isn't a cannon... it's a dwarven-built siege engine artifact with the ability to project elemental effects quite far.
The Maw of Rovagug IS a giant cannon.
Both belong to the Gorilla King, last I heard. It's like he's stockpiling. Or something. For some reason.
So, the ISWG and the PFCS are both wrong?
I'm intrigued as to how the gorrila king might possess a cannon that is built into the Hellfallen Cliffs. Do tell?
oops...
nope. I'm wrong, The Inner Sea World Guide is correct.
There's a fair bit of nonsense and confusion in the earlier Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting hardcover that I did my best to simplify and clear up to mesh with what we now know about the rarity and qualities of guns and the power level of sand krakens.
Maybe you're both correct? The Gorilla King could have gained control of the Hellfallen Cliffs :)
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Maybe you're both correct? The Gorilla King could have gained control of the Hellfallen Cliffs :)
Unlikely because then he would control the primary means of firearms production on Golarion. Which would make playing a gunslinger PC hard to reconcile with the new firearms shortage.
Also:
Both belong to the Gorilla King, last I heard. It's like he's stockpiling. Or something. For some reason.
The Guns of Anghazan.
Sounds like a module title to me. :)
If you ask me, the guys worshiping the demon lord of primal savagery shouldn't really be stockpiling cannons.
Even though it's common sense to have the best weapons around, it seems to go against their whole shtick of rampaging and such.
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I think the thing that rocks my mind even more than the Gorilla King stockpiling superweapons is that he and/or his minions pulled off a raid on Alkenstar.
There's a hell of a story there waiting to be told.
The Worldbreaker was captured during Taldor's 6th Army of Exploration's failed attempt to tame the Mwangi Expanse, not from Alkenstar. Why they thought dragging a massive "siege weapon" through a incredibly dense jungle with no fortified cities to actually be bombarded was a tactically sound use of resources is beyond me... Though I suppose the people with tactical acumen weren't necessarily those in charge.
Unless JJ is referencing upcoming unpublished material per existing fluff the current Gorilla king doesn't have possession of the Maw of Rovagug. Though in either case it would be more of an occupation than ownership since the Maw is built into the side of mountain and couldn't be dragged whole cloth back to his treasure vaults in Usaro(Edit: Well to be clear I shouldn't say, "couldn't" magic would accomplish the task rather easily I suppose).
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Blah. Everybody knows that Junon town managed to kill Sapphire Weapon just fine with their massive, cliff-mounted, gun.
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I think the thing that rocks my mind even more than the Gorilla King stockpiling superweapons is that he and/or his minions pulled off a raid on Alkenstar.
There's a hell of a story there waiting to be told.
The Worldbreaker was captured during Taldor's 6th Army of Exploration's failed attempt to tame the Mwangi Expanse, not from Alkenstar. Why they thought dragging a massive "siege weapon" through a incredibly dense jungle with no fortified cities to actually be bombarded was a tactically sound use of resources is beyond me... Though I suppose the people with tactical acumen weren't necessarily those in charge.
Unless JJ is referencing upcoming unpublished material per existing fluff the current Gorilla king doesn't have possession of the Maw of Rovagug. Though in either case it would be more of an occupation than ownership since the Maw is built into the side of mountain and couldn't be dragged whole cloth back to his treasure vaults in Usaro(Edit: Well to be clear I shouldn't say, "couldn't" magic would accomplish the task rather easily I suppose).
As mentioned above... I mis-spoke when I mentioned the Gorilla King has the Maw. He does have the Worldbreaker though.
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Ah, a canon of canonical cannons.
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Last campaign I ran, I had the Gorilla King recovering a number of the Totems of Angazhan to do the Gorilla Grodd maneuver and turn a large portion of the world into apes and monkeys, thereby catapulting Angazhan up to godhood, ushering in the Age of Apes (the Age of Man being somewhat over when Aroden kicked off).
My players dubbed this the Ape-ocalype.
It was also one of the Seals of Groetus, big world-changing events that needed to happen before Rovugug was released to end the world.
Ruthazek is the current Gorilla king, Angazhan is the demon lord of apes and the jungle.The Guns of Anghazan.
Sounds like a module title to me. :)
I know. I just thought Guns of Angazhan sounded better than Guns of Ruthazek.
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Last campaign I ran, I had the Gorilla King recovering a number of the Totems of Angazhan to do the Gorilla Grodd maneuver and turn a large portion of the world into apes and monkeys, thereby catapulting Angazhan up to godhood, ushering in the Age of Apes (the Age of Man being somewhat over when Aroden kicked off).
My players dubbed this the Ape-ocalype.
It was also one of the Seals of Groetus, big world-changing events that needed to happen before Rovugug was released to end the world.
I love it when groups go bananas with combining setting details like this. :)
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Ruthazek is the current Gorilla king, Angazhan is the demon lord of apes and the jungle.The Guns of Anghazan.
Sounds like a module title to me. :)
I know. I just thought Guns of Angazhan sounded better than Guns of Ruthazek.
It still works - it's just in the context of the guns dedicated to Angazhan, rather than the guns in the posession of Ruthazek.
I'm intrigued as to why anyone would build a bombard into a cliff. It kind of prevents aiming. Any attack not directly down the cannon's firing line will avoid it entirely.In real life the french build an entire line of fortification like this.
As I recall it didn't work out very well.
It did exactly what the French hoped it would - force the Germans to try to go around.
Problem is that the Germans got around. ;)