
Games and Geeks |
Hello guys! I've just purchased the Pathfinder Beginner Box and I must say I am amazed at the quality of the product. Just read through the Hero Handbook and feel it is very easy to read and understand. I have bought this game for me and my sons to enjoy; eldest is 9 and the youngest is 3 --- old enough to roll dice!
I was wondering if anyone can help me find a reliable source of Pathfinder RPGs here in the UK. I got my box set from IGUK however they don't seem to extensively carry the Pathfinder line, specifically that new Bestiary Box. Or does the EU crowd just have their goodies a bit later?
Any help to find other stores would be appreciated. Thanks!

HerosBackpack |

You can order direct from Paizo and they'll ship it to you, if you want. I've also had good results in the UK from Orcs Nest.

Games and Geeks |
You can order direct from Paizo and they'll ship it to you, if you want. I've also had good results in the UK from Orcs Nest.
Haha... Not when they charge me $51 to ship a $31 item!
Thanks for the heads up on Orc's Nest... they're a bit more expensive and TBH I was not impressed with the website, but I'll keep an eye on these guys in the future.

Games and Geeks |
Amazon also stock the whole Paizo line, and is cheaper to get postage on. If you are looking for a RL shop, the Forbidden Planet chain stock them, and I have seen some in Waterstones. Probably some other local stores, but I'd have to know your rough location to tell you which ones...
Yeah, found some books in my local FP store, though again, only limited items. I think Waterstones is also a hit-and-miss. I actually found IGUK through Amazon, and they were selling the Beginner Box on their website for a few £££ cheaper.
I am in the Northeast UK, near Middlesbrough/Newcastle.

echilda |

If you get the ISBN most book shops can order in for you. Whilst I haven't done it specifically for Pathfinder (I buy from the website here) I have used WH SMith and Waterstones to buy RP books by just giving them the ISBN number.
That probably only works for books though, boxed sets probably don;t have ISBN numbers!

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I have used Leisure Games for years now. Great mail order and quick.
Another vote for Leisure Games.
Also I think the shipping amount you quote above was on the Beginners Box? Shipping on the soft backs is much cheaper and if you subscribe to the APs, the 15% discount brings the total down to what you would pay in the UK (roughly) plus you get the 'free' PDF. Also, no VAT as they are books.

Aiddar |

I'm with Brok on this one.
I order direct from Paizo, and with the subscription discount, get the nice "freebie" of the PDFs - very very useful. Allows you to cut and paste the artwork and print it out during a game (good to have piccies of hte major NPCs that the players are dealing with clipped to their side of the GMs screen)
Cheers
Aiddar

Games and Geeks |
The Book Depository feels like Waterstones, again a hit-and-miss.
Is this the Leisure Games store you guys are talking about?
I am quite interested in getting some adventure paths/module subscriptions, can you guys go more into detail about what you're buying and how much it is costing you each month (or each time something gets sent out) with regards to item cost and shipping cost?
Thanks for the heads up on ISBN, unfortunately, I am hesitant to "order" from any store that cannot give me a set price and I don't want to feel obligated to buy from them later on since I "ordered" from them --- hence I am searching for a place that decently stocks Pathfinder here in the UK.
More to the point: has anyone actually been able to get any of the Pathfinder Pawns here in the UK? The website says the Bestiary Box pawns are available now, but can't find any here in the UK.

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The Book Depository feels like Waterstones, again a hit-and-miss.
Is this the Leisure Games store you guys are talking about?
I am quite interested in getting some adventure paths/module subscriptions, can you guys go more into detail about what you're buying and how much it is costing you each month (or each time something gets sent out) with regards to item cost and shipping cost?
Thanks for the heads up on ISBN, unfortunately, I am hesitant to "order" from any store that cannot give me a set price and I don't want to feel obligated to buy from them later on since I "ordered" from them --- hence I am searching for a place that decently stocks Pathfinder here in the UK.
More to the point: has anyone actually been able to get any of the Pathfinder Pawns here in the UK? The website says the Bestiary Box pawns are available now, but can't find any here in the UK.
AP subscription: 30% off the cover price, 15% off most everything on the site, free PDF of the AP including interactive maps (able to choose between player & GM views, grid on/off) when it ships, normally a week before the street date.
So 14 dollars for the issue, plus $6.54 shipping just for that.
Other subscriptions are cover price + free PDF, although you get the ap discount off them which helps. Shipping will increase with extra books, but not doubling with each book, so it works out well to order a few things at one.
The best way to get estimates is to add stuff to your cart and start the checkout process, but not actually finalise it. That will show you how much it will cost in shipping to your address.
As for frequency, the APs, Campaign Setting, & Player's companion are all monthly. Modules are every other month, and the tales (novels) are a bit more varied but about 6 a year now. Paizo release everything for a month all together, so it will all be shipped in one lot, although sometimes split into more than one box if that makes the shipping cheaper.

Games and Geeks |
AP subscription: 30% off the cover price, 15% off most everything on the site, free PDF of the AP including interactive maps (able to choose between player & GM views, grid on/off) when it ships, normally a week before the street date.
So 14 dollars for the issue, plus $6.54 shipping just for that.
Thanks for that info, but obviously shipping across the pond costs much more. I'd like to hear from subscribers here in the UK... I don't want to subscribe then find out later on that I ended up paying more than if I got it locally.

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Ok, this is what October is looking like for me. This is shipping to the UK.
1x Pathfinder #2 (paizo.com Exclusive Cover), $3.19
1x Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: NPC Codex (OGL) Hardcover, $33.99
1x GameMastery Map Pack: Vehicles, $10.39
1x Pathfinder Tales: Queen of Thorns, $8.49
1x Pathfinder Adventure Path #63: The Asylum Stone (Shattered Star 3 of 6) (PFRPG), $13.99
1x Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Bestiary (PFRPG), $16.99
1x Pathfinder Player Companion: Blood of the Night (PFRPG), $9.34
1x Pathfinder Module: Murder's Mark (PFRPG), $11.89
1x Pathfinder #3 (paizo.com Exclusive Cover), $3.19
Subtotal $111.46
2 packages via Standard Postal Delivery: $36.25
Total $147.71 (£94)
So that is £23 in shipping on an order that I have saved roughly that much on due to the 30% discount on the AP and the 15% off everything else. Plus I get the PDFs.
Postage is cheaper in months that don't have a hardcover.

Games and Geeks |
Wow, that's quite a haul! Is that EVERYTHING that Paizo is putting out on October? I was hoping for just cost to ship one AP and/or one module --- obviously the more items roughly translates to cheaper shipping.
A quick check using:
Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition - $59.99
Shipping - $51.38
Total - $111.37 = roughly £70.50
I assume ordering from Paizo means I get the PDF for free, or do I have to order it separately? There is a cheaper shipping method for about $20 which brings my total to roughly £51.
Still, if I ordered from IGUK:
Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition - £35.09
Shipping - Free, or £0.91 for First Class (1-2 days)
RotRL PDF from Paizo - $41.99 = roughly £26.60
Total - £62.60 or just £36 if I don't get the PDF
Now when I start my checkout process, I get this message:
Pathfinder Advantage
Subscribe now and get 15% off suggested retail!*Pathfinder Adventure Path Ongoing Subscription
Paizo Publishing, LLC
Subscription Price: 30% Off Cover Price + Free PDF
If I understand that correctly, that means I can get 15% off from my RotRL purchase taking it down to $50.99 or about £32.35 for a total of about £45 shipped.
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At this point, I'm only interested in getting the RotRL Anniversary Edition; the older single-issues are apparently out-of-print now and I'm not very good at reading material in PDF format so I'm out of options here. I think despite the "savings" of a subscription, it's cheaper for me to just get the book especially since I know little of Pathfinder to justify a subscription to the current issue. The dilemma now is do I get from Paizo and get the PDF saving £10 vs. getting it locally, or just buy the book locally and save £15 but no PDF.

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G&G,
You only get the PDF free if you subscribe, not if you just order. So you're probably best off going local if you can get it.
Amd for the anniversary edition, whcih is definitely worth it, you needed to be a subscriber ito the Adventure Path line before the Anniversary edition came out which is obviously too late. You could still go for the really lush collector's ediciton in November but that's even more expensive and highly unlikely to be anywhere but Paizo.
And for a non-hardcover example month cost
• Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Player Character Folio
Paizo Publishing, LLC (subscription copy) 1 @ $9.99 $ 8.49
• Pathfinder Adventure Path #58: Island of Empty Eyes (Skull & Shackles 4 of 6) (PFRPG)
Paizo Publishing, LLC (subscription copy) 1 @ $19.99 $ 13.99
• Pathfinder Adventure Path #59: The Price of Infamy (Skull & Shackles 5 of 6) (PFRPG)
Paizo Publishing, LLC (subscription copy) 1 @ $19.99 $ 13.99
• Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Magnimar, City of Monuments (PFRPG)
Paizo Publishing, LLC (subscription copy) 1 @ $19.99 $ 16.99
• Pathfinder Player Companion: Blood of Angels (PFRPG)
Paizo Publishing, LLC (subscription copy) 1 @ $10.99 $ 9.34
• Pathfinder Module: Dawn of the Scarlet Sun (PFRPG) Print Edition
Paizo Publishing, LLC (moved from order 2102040) 1 @ $5.00 $ 4.25
Subtotal (6 Items) $67.05
Shipping & Handling $18.64
Shipping & Handling Discount - $2.23
Order Total $83.46
It's slightly high owing to the doubling up of the AP, but gives you an idea of S&H costs on a monthly basis.

Games and Geeks |
Another "test purchase" of just one issue of an Adventure Path:
Shattered Star 1 - $19.99
Standard Postal Delivery - $6.54
Total - $26.53 = roughly £16.80
This same item from IGUK is £12.29 +£0.35 delivered First Class, but obviously without the PDF.
With a subscription, that's $6 (£3.80) which brings it to about the same as IGUK, but I get the free PDF. Now that's interesting, and a much more attractive deal! Anyone know how long shipping takes? A rough guesstimate will do.
The funny thing about the subscription and buying RotRL is that I need to have received my first subscription copy before I can avail of the 15% discount.... any item ordered WITH the subscription or BEFORE the first copy arrives does not get the discount. Bummer.
Anybody care to double-check my math? Seems like Paizo may be getting a new customer soon! I wonder if the numbers also even out with bigger/heavier items like hardcover rulebooks or the pawn sets that I'm really interested in.... unfortunately that item is not yet available here so I can't compare prices just yet.

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Rough guesstimate is usually between a week and a hald and 3 weeks to get here. Obviously the PDFs get here quicker
Also be aware that the Pawns will have VAT added as they're a game component and not a book. It might be better to buy those local to avoid the order getting held up by the inspectors as has happeend to me a couple of times.

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With a subscription, that's $6 (£3.80) which brings it to about the same as IGUK, but I get the free PDF. Now that's interesting, and a much more attractive deal! Anyone know how long shipping takes? A rough guesstimate will do.
Normally about a week, although it's almost two for my package currently in transit. I think that Customs and Excise have nabbed it as it has the Bestiary Box in it (non-books) so I'll be getting a VAT bill
Anybody care to double-check my math? Seems like Paizo may be getting a new customer soon! I wonder if the numbers also even out with bigger/heavier items like hardcover rulebooks or the pawn sets that I'm really interested in.... unfortunately that item is not yet available here so I can't compare prices just yet.
For the pawns you might get hit for VAT and the postage on boxes and hardcovers is painful. I take the view that what I'm saving some months pays for those.

Games and Geeks |
G&G,
You only get the PDF free if you subscribe, not if you just order. So you're probably best off going local if you can get it.
I see... so I just get it free on a subscription.
Amd for the anniversary edition, whcih is definitely worth it, you needed to be a subscriber ito the Adventure Path line before the Anniversary edition came out which is obviously too late. You could still go for the really lush collector's ediciton in November but that's even more expensive and highly unlikely to be anywhere but Paizo.
I'm just looking at the Anniversary Edition... is there any way to get the PDF for free? Like if I subscribe on the current Adventure Path, wait for my first issue to arrive, then order the Anniversary Edition, will I get the PDF free since technically I am on a subscription?
While on this topic, if I do subscribe to the AP, then buy the back issues, do I get the PDFs as well for free?
It's slightly high owing to the doubling up of the AP, but gives you an idea of S&H costs on a monthly basis.
What do you mean "doubling up of the AP"? Did you order an extra one or do you mean two APs were released recently? That S&H of $16.41 looks like the cheapest option, is that shipping to the UK (you didn't say where you are located)?
Thanks for your post! At least I now have a rough idea how much funds I need to clear with she-who-must-be-obeyed if I decide to go this route. Hopefully she'll have enough fun with the game that it'll be easier once the "negotiating phase" starts! Hehehe...

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I don't think there is a way to get the PDF free now, no. It was a perk as the book was out of all the subscription lines.
Nope. Only the copies you get via subscription get the free PDF. You would still apply the Pathfinder Advantage -15% discount to PDFs you bought of earlier volumes.
I said "doubling up" because two APs were shipped that month owing to timetable slippage. It wouldn't have affected the S&H much as they were all shipped in one box.

Games and Geeks |
OOOoooooo!! Thanks for the heads up on the Pawns... Now I wonder if the PDF is worth the extra VAT cost?
As for the hardcover books, I'm not too fussed at the moment since I don't see myself ordering very many for the near future, except maybe for the core rulebook and maybe a bestiary book and/or the GM guide book. My main focus right now is the Adventure Paths (basically and pre-made adventures I can run) and maybe some gaming aids such as the Pawns, maybe some maps or some of those dungeon tiles if Paizo does them.

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OOOoooooo!! Thanks for the heads up on the Pawns... Now I wonder if the PDF is worth the extra VAT cost?
As for the hardcover books, I'm not too fussed at the moment since I don't see myself ordering very many for the near future, except maybe for the core rulebook and maybe a bestiary book and/or the GM guide book. My main focus right now is the Adventure Paths (basically and pre-made adventures I can run) and maybe some gaming aids such as the Pawns, maybe some maps or some of those dungeon tiles if Paizo does them.
PDF of the pawns is awesome if you want to use a virtual tabletop. I've been making tokens to use in MapTool and d20Pro this week from it.
Subscribing to the AP would at least get you the 15% discount on anything else you wanted. The closest that Paizo does to dungeon tiles is the Gamemastery map-pack line, I believe.
The Pathfinder Society adventures are cheap and fun, and of course you don't need to actually run them as PFS games to enjoy them. So that is another option for pre-made games.

Games and Geeks |
I don't think there is a way to get the PDF free now, no. It was a perk as the book was out of all the subscription lines.
Nope. Only the copies you get via subscription get the free PDF. You would still apply the Pathfinder Advantage -15% discount to PDFs you bought of earlier volumes.
Ouch. Oh well.

Games and Geeks |
PDF of the pawns is awesome if you want to use a virtual tabletop. I've been making tokens to use in MapTool and d20Pro this week from it.
I was thinking more of being able to print my own pawns if the originals get damaged or if I needed more minion pawns... or maybe make tokens out of them.

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Enlight_Bystand wrote:Thanks for that info, but obviously shipping across the pond costs much more. I'd like to hear from subscribers here in the UK... I don't want to subscribe then find out later on that I ended up paying more than if I got it locally.AP subscription: 30% off the cover price, 15% off most everything on the site, free PDF of the AP including interactive maps (able to choose between player & GM views, grid on/off) when it ships, normally a week before the street date.
So 14 dollars for the issue, plus $6.54 shipping just for that.
Sorry, probably should have said that I'm UK based. I just didn't bother to work out the conversion to pounds as it depends on the exchange rate, which can bounce up and down

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I got my box set from IGUK however they don't seem to extensively carry the Pathfinder line, specifically that new Bestiary Box. Or does the EU crowd just have their goodies a bit later?
FYI, anybody who carries any one of our products likely has access to all of our other products, so you might be able to special order anything they've chosen not to stock.
Also, the Bestiary Box was just released on Wednesday, and it does sometimes take extra time for overseas retailers to get stock of new items.

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Vic Wertz wrote:Also, the Bestiary Box was just released on Wednesday, and it does sometimes take extra time for overseas retailers to get stock of new items.Too slow! I wanted it last Tuesday!! Hehehe... I just found it on IGUK yesterday, woot!!
Most UK retailers will be able to get the last lot of new releases in next week as Esdevium will be shipping them from Tuesday 28th August.

Games and Geeks |
Started to do some comparisons with buying the Bestiary Box locally vs buying from Paizo, but I can't choose any other shipping method except USPS priority which is costing an insane $51.35! No, thank you!
Why can't I choose any other shipping options for this box? If there was anything I'd be subscribing to, it was going to be these Pawns, but not if they ship at these prices!

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I'm based in the UK and I use IGUK all the time, generally for the big hardbacks. I find them excellent to deal with. They do carry a decent range of Paizo products but if it's older then it's not likely to be in stock.
I order the AP's and map packs through subscriptions direct from Paizo. It takes about 9-10 days generally to get here which isn't too bad.

ElDiabloMonkey |
I use GamesLore.com and IGUK for new releases they tend to be about 1 or 2 weeks behind the USA street dates. But I will say Book Depository and Amazon are good for older stuff but they seem to be another 2-3 weeks behind for new releases.
I did a decent sized order when the last sale was on with Paizo. The shipping time was very good to the UK but I don’t think I could normally justify the cost of shipping.

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Started to do some comparisons with buying the Bestiary Box locally vs buying from Paizo, but I can't choose any other shipping method except USPS priority which is costing an insane $51.35! No, thank you!
Why can't I choose any other shipping options for this box? If there was anything I'd be subscribing to, it was going to be these Pawns, but not if they ship at these prices!
The USPS has a 4-pound limit on International First Class parcels (and any cheaper service rates), so Priority really is the cheapest option. (The Bestiary Box weighs 4.25 pounds, and that's not including the weight of the shipping materials!)

Games and Geeks |
The USPS has a 4-pound limit on International First Class parcels (and any cheaper service rates), so Priority really is the cheapest option. (The Bestiary Box weighs 4.25 pounds, and that's not including the weight of the shipping materials!)
Well, that certainly helps me make up my mind regarding these purchases! Thanks for the clarification!