Bond, making a James Bond...


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I am thinking of making a bond-type character.
I am thinking of an Inquisitor with Conversion inquisition and Infiltrator archetype. I will miss the Intimidation but will be better in diplomacy and bluff.
With him being of Abadar, I get a LN alignment, and fit the what's best for the State mentality.
But what would be the best weapon option? I have never liked guns in pathfinder, so bows/x-bows would seem obvious, but takes too many feats, and i always worry about people getting into melee too quickly for it to work. (seems its always small rooms, so you have 1 round of shooting before they charge, assuming you win the initiative).

Any ideas?


Hand to hand and whatever is at hand. What you also should make is Q, so he can have concealed weapons. Maybe a wand of magic missiles, too.


Monk/Ninja with shuriken, which are more PPK than .45


Archaeologist Bard.


Watching Skyfall again inspires me to necro this thread to build James Bond for Golarion. Let's convert him as is. His gadgets are magic items. His PPK is either a shuriken or knife.

What skills does Bond need full ranks in?
1. Acrobatics - for the chase scenes
2. Bluff - for poker
3. Diplomacy - for seduction
4. Disable Device - breaking into M's things without equipment
5. Disguise - always fitting into where ever he is, like a parking attendant
6. Perception - the number one skills
7. Sense Motive - reading people
8. Stealth - always

He also has trained ranks in:
Climb
Swim
Heal
Several knowledges
Spellcraft
UMD

Can he be a monk with all those skills, maneuver master with all the disarms and grapples?

Or is he a ninja surprising all the mooks for one-shots and the Light Steps for the chase scenes? What talents does he need?

What level should we target him to be? 10th? 15th? Let's assume the Daniel Craig version is canon, and build him after Skyfall experienced and starting to weather.

cheers


Martial Artist Monk, Gunslinger.

I know you may not like guns in Pathfinder, but those two are close, he needs stealth, bluff, and diplomacy for skills. But his armor...is nothing but the tux.

But anyway I'd be thinking more Sean Connery so he wouldn't you know...be a loser like Craig.


Maybe it's just too obvious, but why not Ranger (Urban or Skirmisher) and/or Rogue (Spy or Investigator) to Master Spy.


D'arandriel wrote:
Maybe it's just too obvious, but why not Ranger (Urban or Skirmisher) and/or Rogue (Spy or Investigator) to Master Spy.

Why obvious? I don't see the two Rogue archetype's abilities exceptionally Bond-like.

Maybe an Urban, Skirmisher, Trophy Hunter ranger with Improved Unarmed Attack. I think all those mesh. The one problem with Urban is that all the abilities only work in specific Favored Communities, which I don't think Bond has.


Jubal Breakbottle wrote:
D'arandriel wrote:
Maybe it's just too obvious, but why not Ranger (Urban or Skirmisher) and/or Rogue (Spy or Investigator) to Master Spy.

Why obvious? I don't see the two Rogue archetype's abilities exceptionally Bond-like.

Maybe an Urban, Skirmisher, Trophy Hunter ranger with Improved Unarmed Attack. I think all those mesh. The one problem with Urban is that all the abilities only work in specific Favored Communities, which I don't think Bond has.

We clearly have a very different idea of who and what James Bond is. In my mind, he's first and foremost a spy. That means gathering intel, deceiving people and assassinating them when necessary. I think both rogue archetypes capture this to some extend or another. I agree that urban ranger is not ideal, but it could work. Ninja is just too Asian in flavor for my tastes, but I agree it could work (especially if re-skinned). 100% disagree about monk. I'm more inclined towards gunslinger before monk. Anyway, this is the issue with trying to create a character from literature or some other medium in an RPG - it can't really be done well. Depending on which aspect of James Bond you wish to capture, you can probably simulate that aspect pretty well - everything else will suffer to some degree or another. If you want to make him a deadly hand to hand combatant, then he'll probably be a mediocre to good spy. If he's a master spy (not the prestige class necessarily), then he may not be so great at hand to combat. If he's an expert marksman...well you get my point...


D'arandriel wrote:
We clearly have a very different idea of who and what James Bond is.

Yes, which is why I specified "Let's assume the Daniel Craig version is canon, and build him after Skyfall experienced and starting to weather."

In his three movies, he has proven a superb unarmed combatant using no armor and small pistol. He demonstrated the skill list that I posted above IMHO.


I like that the OP transplanted the concept to a fantasy world by going LN inquisitor. Maybe the focus on building a movie Bond (where no magic exists) should be shifted to what would a Bond-like spy be like in a world where magic can be learned and used.


I like the idea Bond is the 007 identity and each actor played was a different 007 agent at the time.

Connery = unarmed fighter charming rogue
Lazenby = bard
Moore = disguise rogue
Dalton = inquisitor
Brosnan = alchemist/ rogue
Craig = ranger/ rogue


The Poshment wrote:

I am thinking of making a bond-type character.

I am thinking of an Inquisitor with Conversion inquisition and Infiltrator archetype. I will miss the Intimidation but will be better in diplomacy and bluff.
With him being of Abadar, I get a LN alignment, and fit the what's best for the State mentality.
But what would be the best weapon option? I have never liked guns in pathfinder, so bows/x-bows would seem obvious, but takes too many feats, and i always worry about people getting into melee too quickly for it to work. (seems its always small rooms, so you have 1 round of shooting before they charge, assuming you win the initiative).

Any ideas?

Rogue. Definitely Rogue. Bond is not a spellcaster.


Well...there is that Unnatural Lust spell...


You're just thinking of charm person, when it relates to bond.

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IF we had spellcasting, Bond would certainly use spells instead of sci-fi gadgets.

Craig comes across more as special forces then bard. He's definitely a ranger/rogue with FE: Humans and FT: Urban. I'd peg him at 3/3.

Nobody mentioned a hand crossbow or repeating crossbow? Tch.

==Aelryinth


Aelryinth wrote:

IF we had spellcasting, Bond would certainly use spells instead of sci-fi gadgets.

Craig comes across more as special forces then bard. He's definitely a ranger/rogue with FE: Humans and FT: Urban. I'd peg him at 3/3.

Nobody mentioned a hand crossbow or repeating crossbow? Tch.

==Aelryinth

Use Magic Device and wands, scrolls etc. He doesn't need to be a spellcaster to use magic. Rogues DO tend to use those, you know. Given what I've seen in all those dozens of Bond flicks, he needs a lot of flexibility. Ain't all just charm and lots of bang.

Silver Crusade

This isn't particularly helpful for the combat part, but you do need to put in one rank at least in Perform: Awful One Liner.


Celestial Pegasus wrote:
This isn't particularly helpful for the combat part, but you do need to put in one rank at least in Perform: Awful One Liner.

I'm thinking Story Feat: Script Advantage. Side effects include awful one liners and plot-dependant gear re-allocation for each module (movie).

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