wtf am i watching?
wtf am i watching?
Marble Hornets is a web series on youtube, based on the Slender Man mythos. It takes the form of excerpts from footage of a student film that the protagonist was involved with some years prior to the series. It appears there was more going on during the shoot than the protagonist knew about, up to and including the production's sudden end.
Over the course of the first season (We're now just into season three.) the protagonist goes through the footage and then starts investigating. And then stuff starts happening to him in the present.
It can be pretty frightening for a low-budget, two guys with a camera affair. Most entries involve a lot of clips with text narration, but as time goes on we get more fully-acted scenes.
...and the presmise is set up in the video I linked you to. :) Entries go in numerical order.
At the end of the third season they were granted seasons 4-6 to plan the shows ending (whether they actually did that or not). The show definitely had a different feel from that point on.
I liked Lost and thought the ending wasn't all that I wanted it to be, but it wasn't a bad ending. I have a feeling you don't know how the show really ended ** spoiler omitted **
I've learned not to talk about how I feel about the end of LOST lest I be rent apart by seething haters.
I thought the ending was just fine and it's still in my top three shows of all time (#1 and #2 are both Firefly, because it's too awesome for just one slot). But you're the only other person I've met who doesn't froth at the mouth when discussing it, so I just keep my head down and say "yup, that show had a lot of flaws. Moving on..."
Then again, I've been told my brain doesn't register things I don't like, so I generally walk away from shows only remembering the good parts.
I don't have a major hate for losts ending either. I don't think it was amazing, but it wasn't horrid either. My major problem is I just don't believe Jacob. I wasn't convinced that the untold horror that would occur if man in black left was for real. End derail.
wtf am i watching?
Marble Hornets is a web series on youtube, based on the Slender Man mythos. It takes the form of excerpts from footage of a student film that the protagonist was involved with some years prior to the series. It appears there was more going on during the shoot than the protagonist knew about, up to and including the production's sudden end.
Over the course of the first season (We're now just into season three.) the protagonist goes through the footage and then starts investigating. And then stuff starts happening to him in the present.
It can be pretty frightening for a low-budget, two guys with a camera affair. Most entries involve a lot of clips with text narration, but as time goes on we get more fully-acted scenes.
...and the presmise is set up in the video I linked you to. :) Entries go in numerical order.
On entry 16 atm. This is some kinda blair withc deal then i take it?
On entry 16 atm. This is some kinda blair withc deal then i take it?
The conceit is that this is found footage of real events, so it's a similar frame story but Jay is alive and we're following his journey rather than looking at footage of three campers we know died some time before.
For most of season one, Jay is a surrogate for us. He gets developed a lot more in season two.
15. Little House on the Prairie.
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The series ending or the tv movies they made for after season 9. Didn't they blow it up in those?
OK finished 60.5...that was from jul 14 this year. They post about once a month?
Personally, I liked the earlier episodes... The ones with the murder investigations. I thought it got all screwy at the end with the Roosters and the Owls. Weird stuff...I like weird stuff. The best episode was the one with the demons, talking about how they tempt mortals into doing bad things. 2nd best, when the family encountered the bird and started bleeding out of all of their orifices. Super disturbing. But most of all it just sucks that they didn't reach the entire point of the show, what happens on the Millenium? lol.
Agreed. The 1st season of Millennium (with Frank humting down serial killers) was good, but there were already hints of weirdness to come. The second season (with the devils and supernatural stuff) was some of the best television ever made, IMO. More than once they had to run a disclaimer before an episode saying something like "this episode was written before the recent tragic events..." because events in an episode was so much like something that had just actually happened. Great stuff.
The third (partial) season was just sad.
OK finished 60.5...that was from jul 14 this year. They post about once a month?
It varies heavily. The seven month gap between the end of season one and the start of season two was about that long in the real world too. During a season I think the average is around one post every three weeks, but entries tend to get released as they're finished and sometimes get delayed because they need a prop or have trouble using a location, stuff like that.
In between entries we usually get some twitter posts from Jay (https://twitter.com/marblehornets). The last several entries look like ToTheArk is posting instead of Jay, though.
Pretty cool stuff. Thanks Sam.
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Xyber 9 New Dawn. Great cartoon, but a rushed and terrible ending.
Also, Pirates of Darkwater. Another great cartoon, but cancelled too soon. No ending.
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Xyber 9 New Dawn. Great cartoon, but a rushed and terrible ending.
Also, Pirates of Darkwater. Another great cartoon, but cancelled too soon. No ending.
Oh my god, Pirates of Darkwater. Definitely an IP that needs reviving by competent people--not only was it a great world, handled well you could merchandise the heck out of it. I'd aim it at teens rather than kids.
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Oh my god, Pirates of Darkwater. Definitely an IP that needs reviving by competent people--not only was it a great world, handled well you could merchandise the heck out of it. I'd aim it at teens rather than kids.Xyber 9 New Dawn. Great cartoon, but a rushed and terrible ending.
Also, Pirates of Darkwater. Another great cartoon, but cancelled too soon. No ending.
I've been entertaining myself with thought of a PoD campaign setting for years. It really was a better D&D cartoon than the D&D cartoon.
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Evangelion. HATED the ending.
Yeah I bought the boxed set. When it got to the last couple episodes, I was pissed enough to give it away.
Oh my god, Pirates of Darkwater. Definitely an IP that needs reviving by competent people--not only was it a great world, handled well you could merchandise the heck out of it. I'd aim it at teens rather than kids.Xyber 9 New Dawn. Great cartoon, but a rushed and terrible ending.
Also, Pirates of Darkwater. Another great cartoon, but cancelled too soon. No ending.
Seriously. When they said "Alien World of Mer" they meant it. Also, my earliest remembered shipping. :) Ren and Tula.
Could do with a definite revival.
I've been entertaining myself with thought of a PoD campaign setting for years. It really was a better D&D cartoon than the D&D cartoon.Oh my god, Pirates of Darkwater. Definitely an IP that needs reviving by competent people--not only was it a great world, handled well you could merchandise the heck out of it. I'd aim it at teens rather than kids.Xyber 9 New Dawn. Great cartoon, but a rushed and terrible ending.
Also, Pirates of Darkwater. Another great cartoon, but cancelled too soon. No ending.
I agree, although the D&D cartoon is great for torturing your friends with. They couldn't last two episodes.
Pretty cool stuff. Thanks Sam.
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I was genuinely frightened several times, though I confess I found the masked man much scarier than Slender Man most of the time. That is, until I started seeing his behavior towards Jay as flirty.
If you like the genre, there are other Slender Series. The most popular are TribeTwelve (Starts out extremely similar to Marble Hornets, but eventually finds its own way.) and Everyman Hybrid. For EH it's really best to dig up a timeline and follow that since it's spread across two youtube channels, a blog or two, and various alternate reality game stuff. Both update on a much more relaxed schedule than Marble Hornets, though.
I've sampled a few second-tier shows as well. Dark Harvest00 is a bit more upfront with the mythology. MLAndersen0 is more character-driven.
Anywho, they're all on Youtube.
Evangelion. HATED the ending.
ARGH!!!! I had forgotten this as well. I like many anime's, and quite a few have bad endings..or just stop. It seems to be endemic to the genre.
However, Evangelion was a big..<insert many many foul expletives> to the audience. I would rather it had just.. stopped. Truely, I watched the ending twice back to back because I just felt I must have missed something...
Argh!!!!
Greg
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Evangelion. HATED the ending.ARGH!!!! I had forgotten this as well. I like many anime's, and quite a few have bad endings..or just stop. It seems to be endemic to the genre.
However, Evangelion was a big..<insert many many foul expletives> to the audience. I would rather it had just.. stopped. Truely, I watched the ending twice back to back because I just felt I must have missed something...
Argh!!!!
Greg
I describe the american ending thusly:
Imagine Star Wars, except that instead of getting in an X-Wing and spending ten minutes of screen time blowing up the death star, luke runs to his room and spends the whole fight (drawn out to a full 45 minutes of excruciating screen time) sitting in a chair sobbing like a child and waxing philosophical about how much the world sucks, occasionally falling to the floor and flopping around like he's been possessed, followed by uncontrollable shaking. Then the battle ends, and he goes out to get his medal.
Stargate SG1 had an awful ending. The super intelligent advanced race called the Asgard decide to blow themselves up. Really? Very weak.
Evangelion. HATED the ending.
The brain seems to have a self-preservation algorithm to wash away those horrible memories that can drive you insane if you thought too much into it. Now those memories come flooding back. Thanks, mate.
Seriously though, now that I think back there were quite a few anime series that had truly moronic endings, but Evangelion was probably the worst of the lot.
Evangelion. HATED the ending.The brain seems to have a self-preservation algorithm to wash away those horrible memories that can drive you insane if you thought too much into it. Now those memories come flooding back. Thanks, mate.
Seriously though, now that I think back there were quite a few anime series that had truly moronic endings, but Evangelion was probably the worst of the lot.
They ran out of money. The clip shows and congratulations was all they could afford of whatever version of the ending they intended to have at the time.
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Stargate SG1 had an awful ending. The super intelligent advanced race called the Asgard decide to blow themselves up. Really? Very weak.
Two things about the Asgard.
1) They were already dying. It was just a race-wide decision to give up. Part of that was motivated by their belief the Tauri could 'take over' for them (We'll laugh at that decision later).
2) It tied into the Atlantis introduction of the 'evil Asgard'. An 'Asgard on Asgard' war wouldn't have been as 'on screen' as 'Humans with Ancient and Asgard tech vs evil Asgard.'
Aside I wish they'd followed up with Teen O'Neil and Cassandra. They were of an age (physically) and I always thought a one shot episode of them dealing with Ba'al's minions. (Die Hard! In School!) would have been a nice change of pace (and spin off fodder).
They ran out of money. The clip shows and congratulations was all they could afford of whatever version of the ending they intended to have at the time.Evangelion. HATED the ending.The brain seems to have a self-preservation algorithm to wash away those horrible memories that can drive you insane if you thought too much into it. Now those memories come flooding back. Thanks, mate.
Seriously though, now that I think back there were quite a few anime series that had truly moronic endings, but Evangelion was probably the worst of the lot.
Same thing happened to gunbuster. The last episode had a ton of black and white cells shown to music, but it still went with the feel of the show, and the ending made sense.
Sad thing is, other shows seemed to think that Evangelion was going for a 'metaphysical/deep' ending, and have done similar...for no apparent reason.I don't watch much anime any more...I don't want to get into a series and get that again.
Pretty cool stuff. Thanks Sam.:)
I was genuinely frightened several times, though I confess I found the masked man much scarier than Slender Man most of the time. That is, until I started seeing his behavior towards Jay as flirty.
If you like the genre, there are other Slender Series. The most popular are TribeTwelve (Starts out extremely similar to Marble Hornets, but eventually finds its own way.) and Everyman Hybrid. For EH it's really best to dig up a timeline and follow that since it's spread across two youtube channels, a blog or two, and various alternate reality game stuff. Both update on a much more relaxed schedule than Marble Hornets, though.
I've sampled a few second-tier shows as well. Dark Harvest00 is a bit more upfront with the mythology. MLAndersen0 is more character-driven.
Anywho, they're all on Youtube.
Yeah, there definately were a couple scenes with the masked guy watching Jay sleep that were seriously trippy. Or when he just ran at him from the couch!
Dunno that I'll check those others out. I wann see how this one ends first, lest I get them confused.
Neon Genisus Evangelion had multiple endings and all of them sucked plus the real reason the series went s+!~ was that the creater of the show was not taking his medication. I have never disliked an anime more then that one and I am an anime fan.
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addendum and explanation before derailment.
I asked about the Mythos because fans of it use the term 'My Immersion!' all the time, if they see anyone involved in the series they watch do something OOC. Whether it be use the same account to like something on Facebook, or such.
It was more of an inside joke than anything else. That said, it IS a fun mythos to play with, I've written several blogs in my profile if anyone has an interest.
/derail
I think nothing can really top St. Elsewhere, but Quantum Leap had a hella strange ending, as did Night Court. M*A*S*H had way too much of Alan Alda's ego imprinted in it, as did the later seasons anyway.
Roseanne had a weird ending, but I suppose it was better than the last season.
There's another one I'm trying to remember, but I can't seem to put my finger on it.
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Firefly. But only because it never should have ended.
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Roseanne had a weird ending, but I suppose it was better than the last season.
Ugh, yes! I forgot about how bad that was - I agree that the last season was terrible and the series finale was an attempt to retcon it, but then they went back and retconned the whole series as well. So stupid.
Other than that, I agree with a lot of the other usual suspects - wasn't a fan of Lost or Neon Genesis Evangelion (though I hadn't liked Evangelion too much even prior to its ending), and I absolutely hated the finale of Battlestar Galactica. I think of it like the fictional movie in Seinfeld called "Cry, Cry Again," because when you see
you cry, and then when you get to
you cry again.
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Firefly. But only because it never should have ended.
but I thought they couldn't stop the signal?
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M*A*S*H had way too much of Alan Alda's ego imprinted in it, as did the later seasons anyway.What are you talking about? M*A*S*H ended when Henry Blake died. They replaced a really good comedy with a drama that occasionally had comedic moments, but less and less as time went on.
I just presumed they were pulling a Roseanne and the rest of the series was in Hawkeye's head as he tried to wrap his head around it the loss of his friend.
Obviously, Blake didn't die, they just presumed so because they didn't find his body. He was captured by the Korean army, and put to work in a hospital for military prisoners, with hilarious results.
Battlestar Galactica (2004-2009) because they flew the fleet into the sun.
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Battlestar Galactica (2004-2009) because they flew the fleet into the sun.
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Holy thread necromancy! Why not join in though...
Young Justice - Because it shouldn't have ended.
Firefly - For all the reasons.
Battlestar Galactica - Because I would have liked to have seen then split up as others suggested.
Babylon 5 - Because season 5 was not up to par with the rest of the show. They really screwed with the entire flow and I'd have rather just ended with Season 4.
Farscape - No real ending.
Enterprise - Really didn't find its legs until the last season or so, and the last episode was awful.
Supernatural - The first five seasons were really good. Everything since has been just as bad. There have been a few outlier issues that have been decent, but for the most part it should have ended with Swan Song.
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To be fair, Charles, Survival wasn't written to be "the last Doctor Who story." It was written as "the last Doctor Who story of this season," and had a coda added on to the end just in case it happened to be the end. It was unsatisfying because there wasn't a satisfying way of ending it with that episode.
W.I.T.C.H. No ending they just stopped at season 2 even though all indicators said season 3 would happen.
Conan the Adventurer. No ending. At least they finished the Wrathamon arc. Would have liked to have the Mesmira arc though.
I agree 100% about Battlestar. I honestly didn't much care for basically everything after the insurgency arc on the show, and thought the cylon reveal was just...stupid. And then the season ends with Mitochondrial Eve, angels, "She was dead the whole time", and people deciding that technology was evil and willingly going back to the stone age. I ended up selling my DVDs of the earlier seasons, and refused to watch any of the future spin off material as a result.
I'd also agree with X-files. The later seasons of X-files severely suffered from the absence of a show bible: it was clear the writers really didn't know what was going on with the conspiracy anymore than the fans, and sometime after season 5 it just collapsed under its own weight. Changing shooting locations didn't help...The atmosphere of the Pacific Northwest was great. I never felt though that the show runners knew what to do with California as a location. Finally...the show writers just ran out of ideas. The last few seasons of the Duchovny run had a ton of comedy episodes, sequels, and standard genre show cliches. Honestly seasons 8 and 9 were superior than 7...at least they tried to get back the original vibe of the show
The writers of Lost did pretty much outright admit that they were making it up as they went, almost episode by episode with no plan.
Sounds like my campaigns...
Not really a story issue but...
Babylon 5... The way that at the end of it's run, they kept switching days and time slots of the show without much notice, then said that they cancelled the show because of bad ratings... lol... It was playing on Tuesday nights around 12:20am at one point!! Ugh!
Ultradan
They always planned to finish with Season 5. The difference was the 'main' story finishing in Season 4 early due to the threat of cancellation and then more filler being introduced into early Season 5 to make up for it. But the general ending and the final episode were all planned a couple of years earlier.
Still I loved the series, I wish we could have seen the entire shadow war plot stretched through the 5th season as originally planned.
The Shadow War was always going to end in Season 4. In JMS's original plan, the Shadow War would have probably ended somewhere around Episode 10-11, with a couple more battles and a few more elements stretched out (Garibaldi wouldn't have been so easy to find, IIRC), and then the war for Earth would have begun. Season 4 was originally supposed to end with the episode where Sheridan is interrogated non-stop for 44 minutes and ended on that note.
The big change in Season 5 was that the battle for Earth would have been in the first ten episodes, the telepath crisis would have been two or three episodes at most and then they'd have straight been into the Centauri conflict. Season 5 would certainly have benefited from that.
What ever happened to Mr. Straczynski anyhow?
JMS has written several comic book series and movies, and is now the co-showrunner and co-writer of the Wachowskis' new TV series, SENSE8, which is currently filming.
The US version of Life on Mars. Wow was that stupid.
And despite it's lack of Ivanova, I hold that Babylon 5's last season was okay.
