how do I get this to run on a mac?
I have Excel 2010, but I'm trying to open CharacterForge, which looks like a visual basic application (unless I'm mistaken?) I already have and can open sCoreForge 7.4.0.1 but it does not have enough of the current character options to be useful to me I was hoping this was an updated program with more recent books included.
Oh. Not sCoreForge. My bad.
I have no idea. I'm not involved in his new program in any way. I do know that there are known problems and that is planning on working on it when he gets time - but there's the rub: he has no time right now. His newest project is supposed to be a web based program, so having excel shouldn't matter.
Any questions on sCoreForge character sheet or spell sheet I can assist with, but I haven't had the opportunity to look at any of his other material.
Hello, I was just going to post this same error message that I'm also getting. I am using Excel 2013.
I've had a lot of problems running this program on 2013, so I recommend trying an older version of excel.
Blue Canary: do you have any plans to continue supporting the Excel character sheet one day? My group swears by it. I'd be ready to pass a hat and support this with $
Unless you plan on paying him enough to make this a part time job, it's highly unlikely he'll have the time to devote for continued support with the excel program and his full time job and other life activities.
The reason he quit the excel program was because it got too bloated with all the new material. Excel is a poor format for all the material published by Paizo, but that's what he had to use, so that's what we got. Simply put, excel doesn't have the computational power to handle it; it's why the program was so slow to begin with.
If you or one of your players can pick up an excel programming manual, feel free to add more to the database for your own use or share as you like.
I have Excel 2010, but I'm trying to open CharacterForge, which looks like a visual basic application (unless I'm mistaken?) I already have and can open sCoreForge 7.4.0.1 but it does not have enough of the current character options to be useful to me I was hoping this was an updated program with more recent books included.Oh. Not sCoreForge. My bad.
I have no idea. I'm not involved in his new program in any way. I do know that there are known problems and that is planning on working on it when he gets time - but there's the rub: he has no time right now. His newest project is supposed to be a web based program, so having excel shouldn't matter.
Any questions on sCoreForge character sheet or spell sheet I can assist with, but I haven't had the opportunity to look at any of his other material.
Ah, the joys of miscommunication. :P
Thanks anyways for the prompt response and polite talk. (Rare and beautiful things in these net wilds you know.) ;)
Hi! Great project here, and I'd love to contribute if I can. But for now, I need help. I'm on a bit of a tight schedule here, I'd like to get this set up for a game tomorrow. Everything is working excellently, no crashes since I updated Excel. My problem is I need to adjust the skills without breaking anything. On the skills matrix it seems as if entries 145 through 151 should be usable for custom skills, but when I enter information in the fields I just get a bunch of #REF! on the character skills sheet. Any idea how I can get around this? I'm sure with time I can figure it out, but we are running a gestalt game with consolidated skills, and I'd like to use this project instead of pencil and paper for this game.
Quick answer:
I'm using version 6.4.0.2
On the skills sheet at the bottom of the skills list, there are some fields highlighted in green and red. These are there for you to add custom skills without having to delve into the rest of the program. If you hover your cursor over the fields, a text box will pop up informing you that this location is designed for custom skills (this is the only custom location where I've seen this).
I just tried to add my own using the Skill Matrix sheet using line 145 and I am having no issue with the skill appearing on the skill sheet or the character sheet. What version are you using?
Same here. I was very excited to here that the project will be moving to a program other than Excel. I'm definitely following the work that's happening here, and if there's a way to donate or otherwise help make this project a reality sooner then I'd love to hear about it. sCoreForge has been my go-to tool for character and NPC building since Pathfinder got out of beta, and I look forward to using it much more in the future.
You guys rock! Keep it up :D
Blue Canary: do you have any plans to continue supporting the Excel character sheet one day? My group swears by it. I'd be ready to pass a hat and support this with $
I WISH OH WISH I could keep this thing alive in Excel. But unless Microsoft would correct their own issues, I can not keep it alive anymore.
My real life has keep me from doing anything to this. I'm hoping to find some more time. My job has keep me so busy I have not gamed in three months!
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Blue Canary: do you have any plans to continue supporting the Excel character sheet one day? My group swears by it. I'd be ready to pass a hat and support this with $I WISH OH WISH I could keep this thing alive in Excel. But unless Microsoft would correct their own issues, I can not keep it alive anymore.
My real life has keep me from doing anything to this. I'm hoping to find some more time. My job has keep me so busy I have not gamed in three months!
That is a sin against the natural order of geekdom!! resume gaming at once! :)
In the meantime - anyone know what changes to make to build unchained Rogs and Barbs?
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In the meantime - anyone know what changes to make to build unchained Rogs and Barbs?
pretty simple... give weapon finesse as bonus feat then under Weapons just add the agile property to one of your weapons. I don't think you really need to add the Skill Unlocks / Rogue's Edge... I would just add those manually in the notes section in one of the back sheets. For Perception, you add a formula '+Rog/2' in the "Opposed" sub-skill to reflect the new boost from Danger Sense. For new rogue talents, you might have to look through the customization page (I haven't done that yet)
Something horrible has happened.
My DM has switched to 5e.
I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Making a 5e program is NOT going to happen.
Nooooo!
Although I've heard nice things about 5e.
Something horrible has happened.
My DM has switched to 5e.
I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Making a 5e program is NOT going to happen.
I'm....so sorry...!
So my laptop has a high enough amount of RAM to keep using the excel version, and I'd like to at least continue adding to the spell sheet, but after attempting to add Accursed Glare, the lookup appears to go horribly wrong when I try to select it, and I notice on the Witch Spells or Sorcerer Spells tab, the bottom spell in the 3rd level spells list doesn't have a color coded checkbox.
thebluecanary or someone else familiar with it: Could you outline the necessary steps for adding a new spell and what I may have done wrong?
The spell sheet seems small enough that I think other people can still run it (at least, more likely than the main one), so hopefully other people may appreciate a version updated with missed spells like that.
As a side note: I notice that the spell sheet doesn't seem to have any support for archetypes. Any ideas on that/is it worth it?
Yes, but I'll have to reacquaint myself with it. With two kids under 2, I haven't had time to play with the program in a while. Especially the spells part.
I've added spells before with no issue; hopefully I'll have time this weekend to give it a look and describe how to do it.
I feel like I've given a detailed how-to for adding spells on a forum before, but I'll be darned if I can remember which forum it was on. I do remember that it had a grey background. And definitely wasn't Paizo.
Anyone know of any forums that actively use scoreforge and spellforge?
Maybe it was enworld?
I now have a pdf how-to guide I obtained from one of the other members of our Yahoo group. PM me if you want it.
Ok, so I found that old how-to guide for adding spells that I made so many years ago. I'm not sure how much it will help with the most recent version, but it may help if you're willing to dive in and figure it out.
The source code is in the sheet itself. I've been doing a lot of work lately that I can post once I'm done with the first pass of simplifying the calculations.
The source code is in the sheet itself. I've been doing a lot of work lately that I can post once I'm done with the first pass of simplifying the calculations.I mean the source code for the VB application being worked on, not the excel sheet. Unless I missed something in the last down load
Oh right. Yeah that would be cool. Don't know where that is. Sounds like a good candidate for a new GitHub project.
Created a new guide for adding a spell on the latest version in Excel 2013:
http://www.filedropper.com/addanewspelltoscorespell
Hmmm. It appears that I need to make it a more permanent link. This'll do:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tibzlbzw0iad4zd/Add%20a%20New%20Spell%20to%20sCor eSpell.pdf?dl=0
EDIT: As long as the forum doesn't put a random space in the middle of the link. >:(
Honestly, unless someone else picks it up, don't expect that anytime soon. I'm picking it up to try and alleviate some of the memory issues and fix as many bugs as I can, but I don't know if I have the energy to add big new features like that.
Honestly, unless someone else picks it up, don't expect that anytime soon. I'm picking it up to try and alleviate some of the memory issues and fix as many bugs as I can, but I don't know if I have the energy to add big new features like that.
Thank you for your efforts, however much you can do.
I believe I've achieved as much as I'm going to with this sheet by myself. If anyone who cannot run the current version is interested in helping me test, please PM me and I can give you the link to my version to see if the memory improvements help you run it any better.
I fully admit I've got a beast of a machine, so I can't really tell how much better it might be since it runs mostly ok either way.
Update!
Thank you VestofHolding for your great work on continuing this project!
Those of us behind the scenes are working on posting the update to the scoreforge website. As soon as we can get it posted (we may even have to get a hold of Blue Canary to get it posted) I'll let everyone know.
Meanwhile know that an update is in progress!
Hello :-)
Love this sheet! Thanks so much for the support you've provided over the years!
I have one question I'm hoping someone might be able to point me in a helpful direction with... the Dragon Drinker Sorcerer Archetype from the Dragonslayer's Handbook doesn't seem to be present (or I'm blind, which is -entirely- plausible). Any advice on what I can do in order to add it somehow?
Thanks!
Jason
Not everything from every book is present; especially the more recent books. As more books were added, the program became slower, until the point where it no longer worked for some individuals. As Blue Canary was working on the problem, his group moved to 5e and he abandoned the project. So he could have simply never got to the book.
Another possibility is that a non copyright version was introduced. Check pfsrd and see what they call it, and then check the file to see if that version is in there.
If it's not there, you can always add it though the "add a custom archetype" feature.
As long the new generator don't work
anyone know a workaround for excel sheet v. 7401 on office 2016.I can't load the saved charakters, takes verry long and freeze
I've noticed a lot of problems with the newer excel versions. Try an older version of excel or an older version of scoreforge.
Or wait for VestofHolding's new scoreforge version to be posted and see if that works.
As long the new generator don't work
anyone know a workaround for excel sheet v. 7401 on office 2016.I can't load the saved charakters, takes verry long and freeze
I've noticed a lot of problems with the newer excel versions. Try an older version of excel or an older version of scoreforge.
Or wait for VestofHolding's new scoreforge version to be posted and see if that works.
Oh Office 2016 is a thing? Kickass, I'll have to check it out.
I am currently running Office 2013 and have done all of my development on that version, while making sure it is backwards compatible with 2010. I have not seen evidence to suggest that the problem lies in the Excel version, so much as the size of the newer sheets. Before getting my much more beefy machine, I had to go back to v. 6.20 of the sheet before it would actually run without crashing due to high memory usage.
It could also be a matter of running the 32-bit version of Office versus the 64-bit version, as the 64-bit version is able to handle much larger memory demands.
An update has been released. Unfortunately only Blue Canary has access to upload the scoreforge website, so we cannot upload it there. Instead, we've put it in Dropbox.
Here are the links:
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Awesome! Glad to see the new version up!
Here's the updated version of the tutorial for adding spells to sCoreSpell:
Very excited to see an update for this project! Any chance we can expect Occult material in the next update?
For new features and sources, someone else will need to pick it up and take the lead. Unfortunately I don't feel I have the appropriate amount of time or energy to do that.
My contribution focuses solely on performance optimization, so that more people can take advantage of the latest version. As well filling in a few blanks I found for already-supported sources. With that done, I'll be stepping back from it.
However I am happy to still be available if those still involved (or newly involved) feel that there are questions I can answer.
EDIT: It is worth noting that the performance issues are caused by the fact that, for this amount of data, Excel is simply no longer the best choice for handling all of that data. It's not built for that, so I would be very cautious to anyone who comes after with the intention of adding more sources. Particularly large amounts of data such as the hybrid or Occult classes.
That is why bluecanary originally stopped this project and started working on an application before he vanished altogether. In my opinion, the best thing that could happen is that someone can manage to get in contact with him just long enough for him to share the source code of what he's done so far, so that that could be continued instead.
Other options include:
1. Restarting the application project from scratch as a brand new community project.
2. Take the core idea of this Excel sheet and split it into pieces. For example, one sheet for only the core classes. One sheet for the hybrid classes, etc. It destroys a lot of multi-classing use, but the developers can simply be upfront about the fact that that would not be what this particular sheet is designed for. I'm not entirely certain how to handle prestige classes in that case off the top of my head, but that kind of splitting would be necessary if people wanted one Excel project to support all.
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Someone found a bug where a lot of archetypes outside of the core classes wouldn't show properly. Here's the latest version with the fix:
And just to keep the links together, here's the link to the accompanying spell sheet that didn't require changes:
First I want to thank VestofHolding and Bluecanary for the awesome work!
I found a minor very specific thing. If I build a paladin with the feat "word of healing" it shows up ~ 6 times in the Character Sheet 2 Tab. It goes into the following Feat categories with identical entries: General, Combat, Teamwork, Critical, Metamagic, ItemCreation and Arcane Discoveries.
Of course I'd be curios to whether there are any plans to include unchained variant multi classing.
First I want to thank VestofHolding and Bluecanary for the awesome work!
I found a minor very specific thing. If I build a paladin with the feat "word of healing" it shows up ~ 6 times in the Character Sheet 2 Tab. It goes into the following Feat categories with identical entries: General, Combat, Teamwork, Critical, Metamagic, ItemCreation and Arcane Discoveries.
Did the same with Cosmopolitan feat on a Wizard.