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If he lets you I'd try and ask to play Aasimar. If he is iffy then just ask him to get rid of Daylight as an ability for something a tad less "powerful" and I use that word loosely. The Daylight spell is the only thing that makes the Aasimar more "powerful" than a Tiefling, and Daylight is like "ooo I made light..." worthless 90% of the time.
The problem with Guided Hand is that you don't have enough feats to begin with as a Cleric and that burns 2 more. 3 levels of Zen Archer doesn't require Channel Smite/Guided Hand and will give you a ton of feats for archery: Point-Blank Shot(B), Precise Shot(B), Weapon Focus, Flurry (Rapid Shot), Perfect Strike, Point Blank Master. (Although the fact that you need 13 Dex to take Deadly Aim is annoyingly MAD.)
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Well, you do not need to be evil, to worship an evil god.
This is correct.. however, remember that your Cleric's Aura will match the aura of your deity, not of your alignment. So if you worship a Chaotic Evil deity and run into a paladin... Lucy, you got some splanin' to do!
Not really.
If you are not evil, then the Paladin is in violation of his code if he attacks you.
Yes, but your aura would be detecting as evil (even if you were not), so there would be some conversation to be had.
The conversation could be as simple as, "Look buddy, I worship who I want, now go away".
With the retort being "<blade to the neck>" because you're actively promoting an evil deity, which the paladin is sworn to oppose.
Idk what the rp value for this race would be, but I thought a grippli zen archer could be cool. +2 WIS, +2 DEX, -2 STR. The STR penalty hurts, but not too much, and having the bonuses in WIS and DEX allows you to get some pretty decent AC, they are also small, which helps there as well. I really doubt they could be considered overpowered, and who wouldn't want to play a little frog man taking down baddies with a bow?
Grippli could be a lot of fun to play this guy as. Though I know the stats are wrong for it but I always want to make a grippli a bard and name it kermit then sing rainbow connection everywhere I go.
Haha. I love it.
If you really want to do that, you could take a look at some of the archer bard guides. It isn't really super optimal, because your CHA is not getting a boost, but your DEX is, which is really the most important thing for an archer. If you are rolling stats you might get some lucky rolls and be able to do it even without the CHA bonus.
Also, since bards get healing spells on their list you could pick up a wand and still be the main healer.
A cleric with -3 levels can still do a lot of buffing and party support. The result would be not unlike a divine bard, I think. You'd be a rather better damage-dealer, a much worse skillmonkey and your buffing ability would start out worse but reach parity around level 8 and continue to increase. You'd also be a better healer, but still not a very good one (worse than a witch.)
What's wrong with a bard? They actually make for some great support characters. With the options on the bard spell list and bardic performance you can really amp up a party. Sure he wouldn't have the best healing capabilities, but with some wands he can hold his own. A bard 5 would probably be a better healer than a cleric 2/ZA 3.
If it is the character concept they would kill him over, they need to lighten up. Kermit is awesome, and I would love to play a game with a grippli bard based (however loosely) on him.
*Edit: Changed something small cause I mixed this up with another thread.
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The conversation could be as simple as, "Look buddy, I worship who I want, now go away".With the retort being "<blade to the neck>" because you're actively promoting an evil deity, which the paladin is sworn to oppose.
No, it's an innocent guy, who prays to an evil god.
He could even be a well respected member of the community.Someone's husband, or father perhaps.
Now, the Paladin just walks up, and kills an innocent man.
Paladin breaks code, loses powers.
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Oh. Well and good then.
Well, if you pick Hshurha, you can choose one of the Animal/Terrain Domains. Same with Skode.
You can find those here.
For Hshura, Eagle Domain is good.
For Skode, Desert Domain is not bad.
Blame him or not, it breaks code.
No Paladins should be "hit with sword, ask questions later" person.
Who runs into tons of Paladins anyway?
People who live in lastwall.
The point to take from this is that walking about with a very strong evil aura actively promoting your dark lord is pretty damn silly from the start.
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Blame him or not, it breaks code.
No Paladins should be "hit with sword, ask questions later" person.
Who runs into tons of Paladins anyway?
People who live in lastwall.
The point to take from this is that walking about with a very strong evil aura actively promoting your dark lord is pretty damn silly from the start.
If in Cheliax, would not the reverse be true?
In other places, no would care.Most of Golarion is apathetic, just like ours.
quick thoughts instead of the Zen Archer idea (although plugging a cleric into even one level of Monk is boss for milking major Wisdom):
You could look at grabbing bow proficiency by way of Elf or Half Elf (for Ancestral Arms). Then just ride out pure Cleric.
Samsaran Cleric with remembering Gravity Bow and Aspect of the Falcon from past lives could be macho. Drop level one into Inquisitor for some Spontaneous options (and the bow proficiency). With a solid nature deity you could even make the case for the Eagle Domain for further increase in hitting with ranged attacks.
Or the elf / half elf version could dip a single level of Sorcerer for Gravity bow (should have the CHA to pick and choose, not just the WIS sorcerer - although you may have to deal with Arcane Spell Failure.
It's not a problem they would have with a bard more a problem they would have with hearing rainbow connection so much. I do plan on making that character eventually, just gotta a lot of other concepts I've been thinking of first.
Honestly I can't say I would blame a paladin that kills a guy with an evil aura on him because even if the guy himself isn't evil he is helping evil by following said evil god.
Ok, fair enough. Of course, you could always switch things up with a little "It's Not Easy Being Green."
quick thoughts instead of the Zen Archer idea (although plugging a cleric into even one level of Monk is boss for milking major Wisdom):
You could look at grabbing bow proficiency by way of Elf or Half Elf (for Ancestral Arms). Then just ride out pure Cleric.
Samsaran Cleric with remembering Gravity Bow and Aspect of the Falcon from past lives could be macho. Drop level one into Inquisitor for some Spontaneous options (and the bow proficiency). With a solid nature deity you could even make the case for the Eagle Domain for further increase in hitting with ranged attacks.
Or the elf / half elf version could dip a single level of Sorcerer for Gravity bow (should have the CHA to pick and choose, not just the WIS sorcerer - although you may have to deal with Arcane Spell Failure.
Alternatively, go one level of fighter for all martial weapons, heavy armor, and a bonus feat.