Hey all.
So Spellstrike says...
Spellstrike (Su)
At 2nd level, whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of “touch” from the magus spell list, he can deliver the spell through any weapon he is wielding as part of a melee attack. Instead of the free melee touch attack normally allowed to deliver the spell, a magus can make one free melee attack with his weapon (at his highest base attack bonus) as part of casting this spell. If successful, this melee attack deals its normal damage as well as the effects of the spell. If the magus makes this attack in concert with spell combat, this melee attack takes all the penalties accrued by spell combat melee attacks. This attack uses the weapon’s critical range (20, 19–20, or 18–20 and modified by the keen weapon property or similar effects), but the spell effect only deals ×2 damage on a successful critical hit, while the weapon damage uses its own critical modifier. See FAQ/Errata at right for more information.
My question has to do with the bolded part. "From the Magus spell list"
If I am playing, say a magus 2/sorc 1
can I spellstrike the shocking grasps I have from my Sorc Level? it is on the magus spell list, just not cast as a magus spell.
Heya, Furmonger.
As your Magus stands now, no, he/she cannot spellstrike spells from your Sorcerer level. There is a magus arcana called Broad Study that allows you to use both spell combat and spellstrike with another spellcasting class. You can't choose this one until Magus level 6, however.
Good luck and happy blasting.
Heya, Furmonger.
As your Magus stands now, no, he/she cannot spellstrike spells from your Sorcerer level. There is a magus arcana called Broad Study that allows you to use both spell combat and spellstrike with another spellcasting class. You can't choose this one until Magus level 6, however.
Good luck and happy blasting.
Really? crap.
I thought Broad study was for spells that were not on the magus list at all, like cures and stuff.
Heya, Furmonger.
As your Magus stands now, no, he/she cannot spellstrike spells from your Sorcerer level. There is a magus arcana called Broad Study that allows you to use both spell combat and spellstrike with another spellcasting class. You can't choose this one until Magus level 6, however.
Good luck and happy blasting.
Really? crap.
I thought Broad study was for spells that were not on the magus list at all, like cures and stuff.
That is what it's for.
Spellstrike is only limited to spells from the Magus list. It doesn't matter if you cast the spell with a Magus slot, Sorcerer Slot, Wizard Slot, Cleric Slot... as long as it's on the Magus list (or you've added it via Spell Blending), you can Spellstrike with it.
ok that makes sense.
Thanks what i assumed but wanted to check.
Thank you to all for the input.
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Heya, Furmonger.
As your Magus stands now, no, he/she cannot spellstrike spells from your Sorcerer level. There is a magus arcana called Broad Study that allows you to use both spell combat and spellstrike with another spellcasting class. You can't choose this one until Magus level 6, however.
Good luck and happy blasting.
I completely disagree, there's no wording that says you can't use spell slots from other classes as long as the spell is on the Magus spell list. For example, a Magus/Witch could use a Vampiric Touch spell prepared with a witch spell slot with Spellstrike. If you disagree, cite the source please.
cool, thats how i was reading it as well.
I will be going Kensai so no armor anyway.
Thanks for the input.
I'm with oneplus999 on the actual reading, here. As written, you could use your sorcerer shocking grasps with Spellstrike from level 3 (Magus 2/Sorc 1). But you couldn't touch of fatigue with Spellstrike without Broad Study.
That being said, I strongly suspect that the intent is that you can't use other class's spells at all without it. But that's not how it's currently worded.
for me at least i am splashing sorc 1 for extra shocking grasps, magus run out FAST. even at lower CL they will still help.
Also Kensai needs mage armor.
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for me at least i am splashing sorc 1 for extra shocking grasps, magus run out FAST. even at lower CL they will still help.
Also Kensai needs mage armor.
Pearls of Power are 1k each for first level spells.
By the time you hit 3rd level, you could affort several of them without sacrificing spell progression.
heh, oh yeah i plan to use the crap out of those as well.
Thanks for the help.
While not optimized: this is an idea I was playing with for multiclassing a Bladebound Kensai in PFS.
for me at least i am splashing sorc 1 for extra shocking grasps, magus run out FAST. even at lower CL they will still help.
Also Kensai needs mage armor.
What else is the level of sorc giving you?
When you are 5th level is it going to be worth it to have those extra 1d6 shocking grasps that you need to use your CHA to defensively cast, rather than letting your magus shocking grasps be 5d6 rather than the 4d6 you've now made them into?
Unless you are 'splashing' sorc for more (bloodlines that will be worthwhile, etc) then all you're going to do is get wet.
-James
Well im glad you asked :)
the sorc level will give +2 dammage per die to elec spells, like shocking grasp.
I am also going spell spec (shocking grasp) as well as varisian tattoo evoc.
So those sorc shocking grasps will be at CL 4 doing 4d6+8
While that is not awesome, its fairly good in the early levels and stays OK throughout.
[[For the record, yes it is a bit one trick. but its a fun trick]]
What about wands?
Spellstrike (Su): "At 2nd level, whenever a magus casts a spell..."
FAQ - Does using a potion, scroll, staff, or wand count as "casting a spell" for purposes of feats and special abilities: "No. Unless they specifically state otherwise, feats and abilities that modify spells you cast only affect actual spellcasting, not using magic items that emulate spellcasting or work like spellcasting."
Once you've cast it, you can definitely use spellstrike to deliver it, whether you used a wand or cast a prepared spell.
Wand Wielder (Su): "The magus can activate a wand or staff in place of casting a spell when using spell combat."
Activating a wand in place of casting a spell is not the same as casting a spell.
You still have to have actually cast the spell in order to use Spellstrike.
