If you play a half-elf, do you automatically gain proficiency with the Curved Elven Blade since I'm partial elf? Hero Lab is saying that I do, so I don't need the exotic weapon proficiency, but I wanted to run the rules by the experts. ;)
Thanks!
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If you play a half-elf, do you automatically gain proficiency with the Curved Elven Blade since I'm partial elf? Hero Lab is saying that I do, so I don't need the exotic weapon proficiency, but I wanted to run the rules by the experts. ;)
Thanks!
No, being a half-elf confers no weapon proficiencies whatsoever. For that matter, even full-blooded elves are not automatically proficient with the Elven Curve Blade - they just treat it as a martial weapon instead of an exotic one.
All racial qualities can be found in the Races chapter of the Core Rulebook, also here.
No not automatically. You can gain proficency if you give up skill focus and take curved elven blade as an alternative racial trait from the apg.
If you play a half-elf, do you automatically gain proficiency with the Curved Elven Blade since I'm partial elf?
Half-Elves do not gain the Weapon Familiarity racial trait that elves do.
However, you may take the Ancestral Arms alternative racial trait (replacing adaptability) and gain a weapon proficiency.
Elf Blood: Half-elves count as both elves and humans for any effect related to race.
I'm guessing that this it the pertinent ability that could grant Half-elves access to the Curved Blade as a martial weapon.
Proficiency isn't really an effect, though.
Elf Blood: Half-elves count as both elves and humans for any effect related to race.I'm guessing that this it the pertinent ability that could grant Half-elves access to the Curved Blade as a martial weapon.
No that's noted for effects like Bane weapons, ranger's favored enemy and other like effects that discriminate based on race.
Being able to wield a weapon is not an effect.
Being able to wield a weapon is not an effect.
That's true.
I did take one level of fighter, so maybe it does become a marital weapon for a half-elf.
Then it's another bug in hero lab. I chose a 1st level fighter, half elf, and then took the Curved Elven Blade and it game me a +1 without the feat.
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Then it's another bug in hero lab. I chose a 1st level fighter, half elf, and then took the Curved Elven Blade and it game me a +1 without the feat.
It only gave you a +1 to hit? Then it might be right. Nonproficiency doesn't mean you can't use it; it means you take a -4 penalty to attack rolls with it.
So if you have BAB +1 and 18 STR (or DEX, if you have Weapon Finesse) for a total of +5, then using the ECB nonproficiently would leave you with a net total of +1 to hit.
Then it's another bug in hero lab. I chose a 1st level fighter, half elf, and then took the Curved Elven Blade and it game me a +1 without the feat.It only gave you a +1 to hit? Then it might be right. Nonproficiency doesn't mean you can't use it; it means you take a -4 penalty to attack rolls with it.
So if you have BAB +1 and 18 STR (or DEX, if you have Weapon Finesse) for a total of +5, then using the ECB nonproficiently would leave you with a net total of +1 to hit.
All my attributes were at 10. I just chose my race, class, and added that weapon which gave me a +1
Hm... Maybe it wasn't going to hit you with the nonproficiency penalty while you still had unassigned feats floating around that could have become proficiency?
I tried it again and made sure I distributed all my feats, and it still comes up a +1.
Adam, I looked at this on my own copy of HL, and it is in fact a bug. The system, for whatever reason, is conferring Elven Weapon Familiarity:
treat any weapon with the word “elven” in its name as a martial weapon.
to the half-elf character. This is, more than likely, due to what Chozyn pointed out earlier, a misconception of the Elf Blood trait. HL is saying that because of the Half-Elf's Elf Blood Trait, and the Elven Weapon Familiarity trait, that the character treats an Elven Curve Blade as a martial weapon. Since the character you built is a fighter, they automatically get martial weapon proficiency. So it is, indeed, a bug of the HL programming. There are other ways to get this proficiency. You could simply take exotic weapon proficiency as a feat, or do what others have suggested in earlier posts.