I play a wizard based on the best wizzard that ever lived Rincewind and i need some advice as to how to make a walking chest like the one that he has.
I don't want it to attack or anything, just carry around my clothes (and cleaning them when they are inside it of cource) and more stuff, follow me around and when in danger get away and come back when everything is ok... giving angry looks at people is a plus.
I have the Craft Wondrous Item Feat but i really don't want to spend 2 more feats to get craft constract since it is mainly for RP and fluff reasons.
So any advice or ideas on how to make this, what spells do i need and how much will it cost.
I'm 6th level now but i can wait. What i have so far is that i'll need
1.secret chest
2.propably unseen sevant (or prestigitation and mending) to clean stuff up
3.i was thinking about using Mount for movement
4.burning gaze for the angry looks that it give not damage.
Please help
Secret chest, mending, permanent animate object. Burning gaze is a nice touch, and if you want to give it some real flavor get your DM to allow you to apply a bane effect (sharks) to its slam attack.
EDIT: If he wants in on the fun, he should make it sentient and cursed.
Secret chest, mending, permanent animate object. Burning gaze is a nice touch, and if you want to give it some real flavor get your DM to allow you to apply a bane effect (sharks) to its slam attack.
EDIT: If he wants in on the fun, he should make it sentient and cursed.
The problem is animate object is not on the wizard's spell list and i would like to make it all by myself not get a witch or a cleric to help me.
I guess i could put a few skill points on UMD and get a scroll but i would be very hard to get a succesfull use since it's from another spell list
So it isn't. That does create an issue. You can't use a scroll that isn't on your class list RAW. There is however no restriction from using it in the items creation and just adding 5 to the DC. It'll just be more expensive to include it in the creation cost than to use permanency (I would assume anyway, I haven't actually compared the numbers).
Actually, you can use a scroll that has a spell not on your class list:
UMD Skill - Use a Scroll: Normally, to cast a spell from a scroll, you must have the scroll's spell on your class spell list. Use Magic Device allows you to use a scroll as if you had a particular spell on your class spell list. The DC is equal to 20 + the caster level of the spell you are trying to cast from the scroll. In addition, casting a spell from a scroll requires a minimum score (10 + spell level) in the appropriate ability. If you don't have a sufficient score in that ability, you must emulate the ability score with a separate Use Magic Device check.
Craft Construct, +5 to the spellcraft DC for not having the spell prerequisite. See animated object in the Bestiary for more info.
I know that i put a lot of constrains on it, but the thing is that it would need 2 more feats for that and since it's mostly RP and fluff i'd rather spend them on something else (yes it has some usfullness but not much more than a walking bag of holding or a glorified packing mule with a bad attitude)
I would say use the spells <Tensors> Floating Disc, Unseen Servant, and through in Prest. just to have it "wash" your cloths every day, ha ha.
Well i wouldn't go with floating disc, it has to have legs lots and lots of them. :)
Any thoughts on the price?
If you have someone in your party who could cast animate object I think it would make things easier. Have you discussed this with your DM? What did he say?
She hasn't read the books but last time i mention it she was ok with the idea since i told her i don't really want it to be the psychopathic war machine that it is in the books.
We have a cleric and a witch so they could do it but i was hoping to do it all by myself
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I would say use the spells <Tensors> Floating Disc, Unseen Servant, and through in Prest. just to have it "wash" your cloths every day, ha ha.
Well i wouldn't go with floating disc, it has to have legs lots and lots of them. :)Any thoughts on the price?
I said that because it is a lower level spell, and does mechanically about the same thing. The fluff can easily be changed floating becomes legs.
Actually, you can use a scroll that has a spell not on your class list:
UMD Skill - Use a Scroll: Normally, to cast a spell from a scroll, you must have the scroll's spell on your class spell list. Use Magic Device allows you to use a scroll as if you had a particular spell on your class spell list. The DC is equal to 20 + the caster level of the spell you are trying to cast from the scroll. In addition, casting a spell from a scroll requires a minimum score (10 + spell level) in the appropriate ability. If you don't have a sufficient score in that ability, you must emulate the ability score with a separate Use Magic Device check.
Thank you for the correction. I forgot how useful that skill could be. I've been playing martial characters too long.
I would go Summoner and haver the Luggage as your Eidolon.
In the early books the Luggage kills stuff and Rincewind just runs away.
Focus everything on the Luggage and just run around in circles screaming. :)
I'm going to have to use that idea for the next non-serious game I play in.
Also I had an Aha! moment. For 5000gp an intelligent item can sprout limbs and move with a speed of 10ft. That's definitely in the spirit of the luggage. So we modify a bag of holding by making it intelligent for 500gp, give it the ability to cast mending at will (1000gp), and give it limbs (5000gp) for a grand total cost to create of 11,500gp (assuming the highest capacity bag of holding). You could up it's ego by 2 and have it's specific purpose to be follow it's owner everywhere.
EDIT: And it's chaotic nuetral.
Secret chest, mending, permanent animate object. Burning gaze is a nice touch, and if you want to give it some real flavor get your DM to allow you to apply a bane effect (sharks) to its slam attack.
EDIT: If he wants in on the fun, he should make it sentient and cursed.
The problem is animate object is not on the wizard's spell list and i would like to make it all by myself not get a witch or a cleric to help me.
I guess i could put a few skill points on UMD and get a scroll but i would be very hard to get a succesfull use since it's from another spell list
Just take 20 on the umd check its not like everyone is expecting you to make this chest in 1 min. Just wait till your back in town next time and see if you have the money to get everything you need.
Also I had an Aha! moment. For 5000gp an intelligent item can sprout limbs and move with a speed of 10ft. That's definitely in the spirit of the luggage. So we modify a bag of holding by making it intelligent for 500gp, give it the ability to cast mending at will (1000gp), and give it limbs (5000gp) for a grand total cost to create of 11,500gp (assuming the highest capacity bag of holding). You could up it's ego by 2 and have it's specific purpose to be follow it's owner everywhere.
EDIT: And it's chaotic nuetral.
Sounds perfect! although i've always picture the chest more of NE total psycopathic maniac :)
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your attention please good folks of paizo community
i m the most unlucky paladin in golarion,i m in the same group with this lunatic wizard , Eos.
Every answer you give him , you are increasing his paranoia by + 1...
let me imform you about his plans
at first he wants to make this stupid evil chest
then to create a whole city beneath the village of Ravengrow. Tunnels and tunnels filled up with undeads!!!
Please, spare a poor paladin of Iomedae who is ready to smite this sociopath wizard...
ΥΓ. Ομορφααααααααααντρα μου!!!....
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You could ask your DM if you could use the Packmate, from 3.0/3.5 Eberron. It was basically a chest that walked around healing your friends, throwing splash weapons at enemies, and carrying loot, but it would work well as luggage as well.
If you are interested, the Packmate is found in Magic of Eberron.
Hmm... The intelligent item rules don't seen to have the ability to give an item feats.
How much do you think giving an intelligent item a feat should cost?
Give the chest a couple levels in fleet, and it can at least chase down a halfling.
Well what i thought was to take the item power "sprout limbs and move with a speed of 10 feet" 2 or 3 times (10000 or 15000gp total +2 or +3 Ego) to solve the speed problem and it gives a good reason why it has so many legs under it.
Also take :
"can cast a 0-level spell at will" for Prestidigitation 1000gp for cleaning up my clothes,
from Intelligent Item Senses and Communication table take
"Empathy" (0gp/0 Ego) be able to give people around it angry hateful looks
"Senses (120 ft.)" (1000gp/0 Ego) to see where it's going
And finaly "Purpose Defeat/slay all (other than the item and the wielder)" +2Ego
All this cost (12000 or 17000)gp +500gp for being Int +5000gp for a making a IV bag of holding. Total (17500 or 22500)gp
with an Ego of 5 form powers + 2 form Base Magic Item Value =7Ego
And depending on my wealth and whether or not the costs for making an Int. item is half like it is for other magical items i might add
Item can teleport itself 1/day (+15000gp/+2Ego)
Item has 10 ranks in one skill (Intimidate) (+10000gp/+2Ego)
smear campaign
"Jason's Traveling Accessory"™ is not evil it just hates everyone (but me) and wish them dead based on the fact that everyone is out to get me.
Why is my son lying in the front yard with what appears to be 2 dozen furniture induced stab wounds?
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Magic of Eberron - pg 152 - Packmate
One on the right.
Quote
"The packmate resembles a chest with arms and legs. In fact, that is exactly what the packmate is: a set of drawers that can walk and move along with its creator. The packmate is designed around a wood and metal chest, with four legs beneath it, capable of carrying it along. Two pincer-like arms extend from the chest, allowing the packmate to withdraw items from one of the various compartments. Each of these compartments are magically locked"