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I walk into a Barnes and Noble and go to the roleplaying games section.

(its past the rack of Magic the Gathering cards, munchkin, and Settlers of Catan for those who haven't been there in a while.)

When i get there my options for fanatasy D&D roleplaying games boil down to 2.

Its either Paizo's Pathfinder or Wizard's 4thEd. I've got 2 choices. I pick Pathfinder, duh but more importantly I'm here to pick up some STAR WARS roleplaying books.

I have one option and that is Wizard's StarWars Saga Edtion. I play and love it but uh, I can't help but wonder if Paizo will ever get a chance to publish their own Star Wars roleplaying books and do for it what they've done for 3.5 D&D?


You don't have to pay any money to WotC in order to publish an OGL game.
You have to pay a lot of money in order to publish a Star Wars game.


It seems impossible, which, knowing Paizo, means it will probably happen when we least expect it.

Now, Greyhawk will never happen, because it would split the market.

Star Wars could be acquired for f&+$ you money, or M.M.O sub money, but I think Paizo would make their own, cooler, sci-fi setting so they wouldn't have to deal with Lucas.


Fantasy Flight Games now has the license to develop Star Wars games.


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Justin Ricobaldi wrote:

When i get there my options for fanatasy D&D roleplaying games boil down to 2.

Its either Paizo's Pathfinder or Wizard's 4thEd. I've got 2 choices.

Actually it seems there's only one option for "fantasy D&D", namely 4th edition D&D. Pathfinder is Pathfinder, and D&D is D&D.

Justin Ricobaldi wrote:
I have one option and that is Wizard's StarWars Saga Edtion. I play and love it but uh, I can't help but wonder if Paizo will ever get a chance to publish their own Star Wars roleplaying books and do for it what they've done for 3.5 D&D?

There's no other option. Wizards' SAGA system is no longer being produced, and probably no longer supported either, so you can only get what's left. As said above, Fantasy Flight have acquried the license for Star Wars Roleplaying Games, but it will take some time for them to actually come out with a game.

Paizo most certainly will not produce a Star Wars of that kind. For one,they cannot without a license, and they don't seem to be interested in producing a game based on another company intellectual property, and what's more, they don't have the capacity to handle publishing and supporting a second game besides Pathfinder. James Jacobs has stated this on multiple occasions concerning a possible publication of his "Unspeakable Future" apocalyptic game. Actually, I think, if Paizo ever decide to publish a second game, this would probably be it. I certainly hope so.


Justin Ricobaldi wrote:
I have one option and that is Wizard's StarWars Saga Edtion. I play and love it but uh, I can't help but wonder if Paizo will ever get a chance to publish their own Star Wars roleplaying books and do for it what they've done for 3.5 D&D?

Not exactly what you're looking for, but Distant Worlds will detail the other planets of the Pathfinder Campaign Setting. The vibe I'm getting from Distant Worlds is that it takes a good amount of inspiration from some of the same sources that inspired Star Wars.

(Paizo is the company that reprinted several novels from Leigh Brackett, the person that George Lucas initially turned to for help writing The Empire Strikes Back.)

So while Paizo will for reasons mentioned above probably never do a Star Wars rpg, if Distant Worlds is a hit, I can certainly see them incorporating into the Campaign Setting more of those elements inspired by Brackett and others who inspired Star Wars.


I wish Paizo did do a d20 Star Wars update. I also wish Paizo owned the D&D brand...


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Fantasy Flight Games now has the license to develop Star Wars games.

Whoa, What?

Interesting. I'm not sure how to feel about this.

While I enjoy fantasy flight board games, I've played their treatment for the War Hammer Fantasy Role playing game and it was cool but I enjoyed the prior rule set more.

I also enjoyed being able to use regular dice as oppose to buying or re-learning sides of dice to match crazy symbols like with what they have going on in their version of the WHFRP game.

But their X-Wing game they mention is going to be boss as all S%#*!


Justin Ricobaldi wrote:
I also enjoyed being able to use regular dice...

Does anyone else find this statement amusing coming out of a gamer? I know I do...

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Yep, Fantasy Flight has the gaming license for Star Wars, so until that changes we couldn't even do this if we wanted to. We've got a ton of Star Wars fans on staff, so I'm sure we could do a bang-up job, but right now Pathfinder is keeping us super-busy, and since the license isn't available....


i would like to add congratulations on finding a barnes and noble, they seem to have disappeared from my area.


I did not see the Pathfinder box set at my local B&N store but I did see that most of the Pathfinder books were sold out.


Uninvited Ghost wrote:
I wish Paizo did do a d20 Star Wars update. I also wish Paizo owned the D&D brand...

So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you've got to decide is, what to do with the RPGs that are given you.

Shadow Lodge

Justin Ricobaldi wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Fantasy Flight Games now has the license to develop Star Wars games.

Whoa, What?

Interesting. I'm not sure how to feel about this.

While I enjoy fantasy flight board games, I've played their treatment for the War Hammer Fantasy Role playing game and it was cool but I enjoyed the prior rule set more.

I also enjoyed being able to use regular dice as oppose to buying or re-learning sides of dice to match crazy symbols like with what they have going on in their version of the WHFRP game.

But their X-Wing game they mention is going to be boss as all S%#*!

Well, thus far they've resisted the temptation to turn the Warhammer 40K games into a a collection of dozens of card sets, funky symbol dice, and other assorted tokens, chits, etc.


SuperSlayer wrote:
I did not see the Pathfinder box set at my local B&N store but I did see that most of the Pathfinder books were sold out.

Funny. The Mall of America B&N had the Beginner's Box on a table as you walk in the door, approximately 5 feet from the registers in the primary entrance walkway. I think about 20 copies were on the table.

Books, however...ugh. I think they had 1 copy of Core and 1 copy of UC total. Everything else on the shelf was 4E.


Erik Mona wrote:

Yep, Fantasy Flight has the gaming license for Star Wars, so until that changes we couldn't even do this if we wanted to. We've got a ton of Star Wars fans on staff, so I'm sure we could do a bang-up job, but right now Pathfinder is keeping us super-busy, and since the license isn't available....

Why did Erik Mona not complete this sentence?

Conspiracy Theory Machine go!


Evil one-eyed aliens kidnapped him.


Evil Lincoln wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

Yep, Fantasy Flight has the gaming license for Star Wars, so until that changes we couldn't even do this if we wanted to. We've got a ton of Star Wars fans on staff, so I'm sure we could do a bang-up job, but right now Pathfinder is keeping us super-busy, and since the license isn't available....

Why did Erik Mona not complete this sentence?

Actually he did through use of the grammatical construct known as an ellipsis which is used to indicate an unfinished thought or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence.


It's just a matter of time before Paizo publishes their own Star Wars version

Sovereign Court

jorge alarcon wrote:
It's just a matter of time before Paizo publishes their own Star Wars version

War of the Stars?

Hmmm ... sounds more like a reality show I could actually watch ... as long as it was reality, not "reality". ;)

Grand Lodge

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zylphryx wrote:
War of the Stars?

Stars Without Number

-Skeld


I walk into the Roleplaying section of my B&N, and the only thing I see is Star Wars.

But not the Star Wars RPG, that would actually make sense.


Skeld wrote:


zylphryx wrote:

War of the Stars?

Stars Without Number

-Skeld

Good taste in SFRPGs :)


Serisan wrote:


SuperSlayer wrote:

I did not see the Pathfinder box set at my local B&N store but I did see that most of the Pathfinder books were sold out.

Funny. The Mall of America B&N had the Beginner's Box on a table as you walk in the door, approximately 5 feet from the registers in the primary entrance walkway. I think about 20 copies were on the table.

Books, however...ugh. I think they had 1 copy of Core and 1 copy of UC total. Everything else on the shelf was 4E.

In my local BN the RPG section has shrunk. It was pretty much all 4E with a couple of other books (WH40K Rogue Trader and the odd PF book). Now, it's split pretty evenly between 4E and PF (they had all the main PF books) with a couple of odds and ends rounding it out. I found the growth of the PF section to be encouraging.


There was also lots of 4th edition books. I also saw the Shadowrun RPG with a few supplement books. I have seen about 8 pathfinder books there before but they were all gone this time. No box sets in sight but they could of been sold maybe.

The Star Wars license is very very expensive and Fantasy Flight games just picked it up so they will be the next ones coming out with the new STAR WARS tabletop RPG game.

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So I walked into my local B&N last night and saw they had two boxes of the beginner's box. I think they'll be ordering more boxes there to fill up the now empty space on their shelf, plus I have two lucky friends who are getting the beginner boxes.

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