I've just started playing an Oracle and, I have to say, I love it. I had tried playing a Cleric and it didn't go so well and it's a much better fit.
I've always been curious about the Mystic Theurge. Now, it's not a terribly practical prestige class but the fact that both the Oracle and Sorceror have very similar rates at which they learn spells, the number of spells they get per day, that they are spontaneous casters and they both draw from the same casting stat (Cha). Now, that seems like a chance for decent optimization.
But since it would take four levels of each class to qualify, I have to ask: to make a blasty caster what Bloodline and Mystery combination would be most effective?
You're going to have extreme problems because of the 4 level loss in your classes. Unless you burn feats on upping your caster level, having your fireballs and chain lightnings going off at -4 levels is going to be a major hit to your offensive ability.
Not at all sure there's any way around that for you, honestly. You're going to be 4 levels behind on caster levels, 2 levels of spells behind in both classes...
You're better off sticking with one class. If you want to do a blaster, I'd have to recommend pairing wizard/cleric. It might not have ability score synergy, but it's -3 levels in caster level and -1.5 in casting spells, which is a major improvement...and still means you're going to absolutely suck until 10th level or so, at best.
==Aelryinth
I've just started playing an Oracle and, I have to say, I love it. I had tried playing a Cleric and it didn't go so well and it's a much better fit.
I've always been curious about the Mystic Theurge. Now, it's not a terribly practical prestige class but the fact that both the Oracle and Sorceror have very similar rates at which they learn spells, the number of spells they get per day, that they are spontaneous casters and they both draw from the same casting stat (Cha). Now, that seems like a chance for decent optimization.
But since it would take four levels of each class to qualify, I have to ask: to make a blasty caster what Bloodline and Mystery combination would be most effective?
You would certainly have less MAD to worry about but I'm of the opinion Mystic Theurge is a trap and always will be. By the time you qualify your already several spell levels behind dedicated casters.
If you really want to stick it out I would go Heaven Oracle and Draconic Sorcerer.
If your dead set on that class combination, for sorcerer bloodlines for the first 4 levels I'd recommend:
Abberant - long limbs is good since there are many touch spells on the cleric list and Enlarge Person is a very nice free spell to pick up. The extended polymorphs may or may not come into play depending on your style and the acidic ray will be weak past the first few levels.
Boreal and Stormborn aren't terrible - they add to the save DCs of cold and electric spells respectively.
Fey and Infernal are solid for just 4 levels - adding 2 to compulsions (which the cleric list has enouch of) and 2 to charms respectively, but they aren't for a blaster. The Fey bloodline's woodland stride can be plenty helpful or useless depending on your setting. The Infernal bloodline's touch debuf isn't terrible if you are willing to get close to your enemies.
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Briefly glancing through the Oracle mysteries (haven't paid much attention to the class):
Flame looks to be decent - Gaze of Flames lets you see through fog, allowing you to use obscuring mist and its versions and blast those who can't see you. Waves' Water Sight is similar. Flame also can grab Cinder Dance to up your move (pretty good with the Abberant bloodline's long limbs and Enlarge Person if you plan on using touch spells). Finally you can choose burning magic, which will let you cause continuous damage to a caster with fire magic (synergizing well with a fire dragon Draconic bloodline, or even the fire Elemental bloodline).
Lore Oracles and Nature Oracles both let you sub Cha for Ref for AC.
Battle Oracles and Time Oracles both let you reroll initiative.
Nice thoughts. I honestly don't plan on playing one anytime soon (My Rage Prophet is FUN to play). This is more an exercise of seeing how it can be done.
After some time thinking, a blaster really isn't the best way to do mystic theurge. In fact, it isn't the most efficient way to play at all really. But I like the idea of being able to do...well, everything!
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lean heavily on No-Save spells. Your CL will matter less.
You could spend your two trait slots on magical knack for oracle and sorcerer. That would recover 2 of the 4 caster levels lost from each.
Actually, you can't. You can only take one trait from any list. Magical Knack x 2 is forbidden unless you blow a feat on it.
==Aelryinth
there are some options to increase your caster level in Inner sea magic, think it was part of the mage guild chapters.
If i remeber correct the options there allowed you to increase your cl by 4 for one class and 2 for a second class.
With Magical Knack trait this could become 4/4.
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there are some options to increase your caster level in Inner sea magic, think it was part of the mage guild chapters.
If i remeber correct the options there allowed you to increase your cl by 4 for one class and 2 for a second class.
With Magical Knack trait this could become 4/4.
page 22 of Inner Sea magic -
eclectic training (5 fame points) When your Fame score in a guild reaches 5, choose one spellcasting class you have at least 1 level in—you increase your effective caster level in that class (including the number of spells you know and can cast per day) by +1Esoteric Training (35 Fame): The bonus to caster level you gain from Eclectic Training increases to +3 (but is still limited by your total Hit Dice). You may select a second spellcasting class to gain a +1 bonus to effective caster level
so you could be +3 & +1 to casting classes & with magical knack you could add +2 to your secondary & become +3/+3
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You could spend your two trait slots on magical knack for oracle and sorcerer. That would recover 2 of the 4 caster levels lost from each.Actually, you can't. You can only take one trait from any list. Magical Knack x 2 is forbidden unless you blow a feat on it.
==Aelryinth
Actually, that's even if you blow a feat on it. Additional Traits doesn't allow you to break the one-trait-from-each-category rule.
If you're going to insist on an Oracle/Sorcerer/Mystic Theurge, here are a few things to keep in mind:
- For sorcerer bloodline, choose mainly for the arcana.
- If there are sorcerer powers you like, use Eldritch Heritage instead.
- An Oracle can choose the Extra Revelation feat for more revelations than just the two you get, but the level will still be capped at 4.
So, assuming you want a blasty caster...
Good choices for Sorcerer Bloodline:
- Draconic: Extra damage
- Elemental: shifting energy descriptors
- Boreal/Stormborn: better DC
- Djinni/Efreeti/Marid/Shaitan: like Elemental
- Maestro: Higher caster level
Good choices for Oracle Mystery:
- Flame/Stone/Waves/Wind: when coupled with the similar Bloodline
- Oracles are by nature less blasty--keep that in mind!
Your best bets are probably to choose an element, and focus in it. Arcane is a good choice for Eldritch Heritage. Marid/Waves could make good use of the Freezing Spells revelation, for example. Draconic/Flame is LOTS of damage, as long as they aren't immune to fire. Maestro comes into its own when coupled with Still Spell--a good feat choice, anyway, since you can be an armored sorcerer.
I wouldn't use two spontaneous casters for Mystic Theurge. The Combined Spells ability is specifically for prepared casters. You would essentially be losing half your class abilities if you went with 2 spontaneous casters.
