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Generally, when you multiclass (say, into assassin for example) the sneak attack from your two classes stack. So a rogue 9/assassin 3 has 7d6 sneak attack damage.
But what if you have the knife master archetype (UC) which doesn't grant Sneak Attack, but Sneak Stab instead (d8 sneak attack with knife weapons, but d4 sneak attacks with everything else)?
How do they interact? Does my rogue 9/assassin 3 deal +7d8 points of damage when using knives?
Or is it +5d8+2d6 instead?
How do they interact exactly? Furthermore, a lot of rogue talents reference Sneak Attack. Can they be used in conjunction with Sneak Stab?
This ability is identical in all other ways to
sneak attack, and supplements that ability.
Seems fairly clear to me. Anything that works with sneak attack works with this.
On the one hand you could argue it does only supplement the rogue's sneak attack, so you get sneak stab for rogue levels and sneak attack for assassin.
Or you can argue that it supplements all sneak attack, so you get all sneak stab.
The first interpretation is most likely RAW, since archetypes usually only affect abilities given by that class.
How do they interact? Does my rogue 9/assassin 3 deal +7d8 points of damage when using knives?
Or is it +5d8+2d6 instead?
How do they interact exactly? Furthermore, a lot of rogue talents reference Sneak Attack. Can they be used in conjunction with Sneak Stab?
1) Either way can be done if I am the GM. I'd say that 5d8+2d6 is the most RAW solution, but it would make sense to claim that the character has focused his assassin sneak attack training on knives as well. At the end of the day, it will raise your damage output by 2 points per sneak attack, which isn't going to break the game in any way.
2) Yes they should be usable with sneak stab. Sneak stab is not so much a new class feature than it is a change to an existing one. I actually think the should have kept calling it sneak attack, despite the changes, just like other archtypes changes FoB, Channeling, spell casting or something else.
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How do they interact? Does my rogue 9/assassin 3 deal +7d8 points of damage when using knives?
Or is it +5d8+2d6 instead?
How do they interact exactly? Furthermore, a lot of rogue talents reference Sneak Attack. Can they be used in conjunction with Sneak Stab?
1) Either way can be done if I am the GM. I'd say that 5d8+2d6 is the most RAW solution, but it would make sense to claim that the character has focused his assassin sneak attack training on knives as well. At the end of the day, it will raise your damage output by 2 points per sneak attack, which isn't going to break the game in any way.
2) Yes they should be usable with sneak stab. Sneak stab is not so much a new class feature than it is a change to an existing one. I actually think the should have kept calling it sneak attack, despite the changes, just like other archtypes changes FoB, Channeling, spell casting or something else.
They haven't really stopped calling it sneak attack. This ability does not have a line saying that it replaces sneak attack. "When she makes a sneak attack with a dagger, etc." In other words, you are still using 'sneak attack', but the archetype modifies the dice.
I had the same question: My knifemaster rougue lv.10 has just reachched assassin lv.1, and it was so sad for me to see that my knife master's sneak stab didn't stack the same way with the assassin's sneak attack, (that was my GM's first answer), because he thought they were different class features.
Thank you guys!