Is evil evil?


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I mean, by some relativistic standards, evil might be good, or something. And stuff.

So, is evil always evil? Or can sometimes evil be good?

(Yes, I'm joking, this is a response to all those 'Is X evil?' threads.)


Only on Sundays.

And when they're a Paladin of Asmodeus


here a tought that might help your question:

The Joker is evil. Batman is the opposite alignment of the Joker. Batman is more powerful than the Joker.
Thus if the Joker turns good, Batman (as the opposite alignment) would be evil and still stronger, thus destroying Gotham.

So it is a good act for the Joker to be purely evil.


Richard Leonhart wrote:

here a tought that might help your question:

The Joker is evil. Batman is the opposite alignment of the Joker. Batman is more powerful than the Joker.
Thus if the Joker turns good, Batman (as the opposite alignment) would be evil and still stronger, thus destroying Gotham.

So it is a good act for the Joker to be purely evil.

I remember seeing that on television once.


Jeranimus Rex wrote:
Richard Leonhart wrote:

here a tought that might help your question:

The Joker is evil. Batman is the opposite alignment of the Joker. Batman is more powerful than the Joker.
Thus if the Joker turns good, Batman (as the opposite alignment) would be evil and still stronger, thus destroying Gotham.

So it is a good act for the Joker to be purely evil.

I remember seeing that on television once.

Yeah me too... except it ended with alternate universe good batman beating bad batman.

To the OP, well no of course not, evil is awesome! how can awesome be evil?


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Morality is subjective, so it's not surprising that these questions come up in a system that tries to qualify it as objective.


Treantmonk wrote:
Morality is subjective, so it's not surprising that these questions come up in a system that tries to qualify it as objective.

He returns! We just needed hundreds of stupid evil posts.


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Derek Vande Brake wrote:
Is trolling trolling?

Fixed it for you! ;-P

Silver Crusade

Everybody knows that evil is a foot.


It really depends on how many puppies were stomped, and babies eaten, to make evil evil. To answer your question, 42


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This is by far the alignment thread of the month making more sense.

Dead serious.


karkon wrote:

Everybody knows that evil is a foot.

It's really that small? I would have thought three feet at least.

Liberty's Edge

Derek Vande Brake wrote:

I mean, by some relativistic standards, evil might be good, or something. And stuff.

So, is evil always evil? Or can sometimes evil be good?

(Yes, I'm joking, this is a response to all those 'Is X evil?' threads.)

Relevent.


One man's evil is another man's good. One thing I've learned through experience in this life is that nothing is objectively evil, or if it is not everyone can agree on it. You'd think something like murder, rape, torture, etc would be universally reviled but there are governments and cultures that not only accept them but use them as tools.

I may be an unrepentant a!~+@#*, but in a world of relative morality I look like a Paladin.


ciretose wrote:
Derek Vande Brake wrote:

I mean, by some relativistic standards, evil might be good, or something. And stuff.

So, is evil always evil? Or can sometimes evil be good?

(Yes, I'm joking, this is a response to all those 'Is X evil?' threads.)

Relevent.

Relevant. But still, I do like that clip. It's like if religious figures actually made interesting and ponderous philosophical arguments instead of practicing pseudo-political demagoguery.


meatrace wrote:


I may be an unrepentant a++~%&!, but in a world of relative morality I look like a Paladin.

Pshaw! I say

Unrepentant a+&$#**ry is a requirement of the order!


d20 evil alignment is especially egoism. If the goals of an evil character coincide with something good, yeah, why not.
Ultimately, his alignment will most certainly lead to evil deeds but that's not carved into stone.

Perfect example btw: Riddick - to some extent


Ksorkrax wrote:

d20 evil alignment is especially egoism. If the goals of an evil character coincide with something good, yeah, why not.

Ultimately, his alignment will most certainly lead to evil deeds but that's not carved into stone.

Perfect example btw: Riddick - to some extent

I think Riddick starts Evil, probably, but by the end and in the second film he's certainly Neutral.

Scarab Sages

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Evil is as evil does?


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meatrace wrote:

One man's evil is another man's good. One thing I've learned through experience in this life is that nothing is objectively evil, or if it is not everyone can agree on it. You'd think something like murder, rape, torture, etc would be universally reviled but there are governments and cultures that not only accept them but use them as tools.

What about F.A.T.A.L? I'm pretty sure it is objectively evil.


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karkon wrote:

Everybody knows that evil is a foot.

I thought the game was a foot.

-gasp- Jack Chick was right. Obviously by the transitive property of equality the game is evil.


My paladin of Rovagug says evil is not evil.

Liberty's Edge

I know this question is a joke, but I'm really surprised at how many people -- based on their comments in these threads -- would have to answer "No" to the question "Is evil evil?"

The argument over whether or not slavery is evil was, I think, a very low point.


Gailbraithe wrote:

The argument over whether or not slavery is evil was, I think, a very low point.

I know right?

I was pretty impressed by it actually.


Cheapy wrote:
Treantmonk wrote:
Morality is subjective, so it's not surprising that these questions come up in a system that tries to qualify it as objective.
He returns! We just needed hundreds of stupid evil posts.

I laughed out loud.


Derek Vande Brake wrote:

I mean, by some relativistic standards, evil might be good, or something. And stuff.

So, is evil always evil? Or can sometimes evil be good?

(Yes, I'm joking, this is a response to all those 'Is X evil?' threads.)

Generally if you have to ask if something is evil then the answer is yes


Kaiyanwang wrote:

This is by far the alignment thread of the month making more sense.

That is by far the sentence of the month making less sense :P


meatrace wrote:
You'd think something like murder, rape, torture, etc would be universally reviled but there are governments and cultures that not only accept them but use them as tools.

Evil governments and cultures. "Everybody's doing it" doesn't make it OK.

If someone told you that it's a good act to jump off a bridge, would you do it? No? EVILDOER!!!!!!!!!! :P


Windcaler wrote:
Derek Vande Brake wrote:

I mean, by some relativistic standards, evil might be good, or something. And stuff.

So, is evil always evil? Or can sometimes evil be good?

(Yes, I'm joking, this is a response to all those 'Is X evil?' threads.)

Generally if you have to ask if something is evil then the answer is yes

Hm.....

Is it evil to follow laws? Any laws?

There, I made laws evil now! Let's all join in anarchy, which is, by definition, good.

Grand Lodge

Define 'evil'.

KaeYoss wrote:
Derek Vande Brake wrote:
Is trolling trolling?
Fixed it for you! ;-P

Define 'trolling'.

Also 'is'.


Quote:
My paladin of Rovagug says evil is not evil.

My, what an illogical paladin!

Derek Vande Brake wrote:
So, is evil always evil?

Yes

/thread


Jeranimus Rex wrote:
Gailbraithe wrote:

The argument over whether or not slavery is evil was, I think, a very low point.

I know right?

I was pretty impressed by it actually.

I didn't know Michelle Bachmann posted here.


Windcaler wrote:
Derek Vande Brake wrote:

I mean, by some relativistic standards, evil might be good, or something. And stuff.

So, is evil always evil? Or can sometimes evil be good?

(Yes, I'm joking, this is a response to all those 'Is X evil?' threads.)

Generally if you have to ask if something is evil then the answer is yes

+1 to that.


TriOmegaZero wrote:

Define 'evil'.

KaeYoss wrote:
Derek Vande Brake wrote:
Is trolling trolling?
Fixed it for you! ;-P

Define 'trolling'.

Also 'is'.

is: existential linking verb (linking verbs associate a noun (person/place/thing) with another noun or adjective (description word))

trolling: using the antagonize feat on the internet.


here goes ....

If Evil was always "Evil" then the possibility of alignment change would not exist. Ergo Evil is NOT always evil, just as Good is NOT always good.

Also, Who's the Boss? Angela...

The Exchange

Trolling =/= Logic

Scarab Sages

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I will not flag too much.


Mrgh.

Scarab Sages

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

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Good Morning!

Scarab Sages

Or....not so good morning.

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

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Well of course "evil" is evil. Unless it's "live" spelt backwards. Then again, we'd like these "is [blah] evil" threads to pass quietly into the archives sooner rather than later.

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