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Comic continuity aside I have movie continuity issues if they're tying them all together: ** spoiler omitted **I can't get over how some people seem incapable of realizing that comic book movies create a new continuity.I just can't get over how a movie about the "original" x-men, doesn't have the "original" x-men in it.The Beast was an original. Havok and Polaris are debatable.
That said... Was Origins Emma a telepath? Or maybe Shaw was involved in the Weapon X program?
I can't get over how some people seem incapable of realizing that comic book movies create a new continuity.I just can't get over how a movie about the "original" x-men, doesn't have the "original" x-men in it.The Beast was an original. Havok and Polaris are debatable.
That response be a rational one, EXCEPT that the movies ignore thier own continuity. Thee entire opening of X3 in relation to First Class for example.
There's also the issue of Emma Frost being a grown woman in the 60's (First Class) while being a teenage girl in Wolverine Origins, which I'm fairly sure DOSENT take place in the 60's...
I can't get over how some people seem incapable of realizing that comic book movies create a new continuity.I just can't get over how a movie about the "original" x-men, doesn't have the "original" x-men in it.The Beast was an original. Havok and Polaris are debatable.
If I want a "new continuity,", I'll just read the comics. I watch comic movies to see the heroes from the comics on the big screen. I don't mind creative license, I just think I had the wrong impression of what the "First Class" was, because my X-Men #1 has a different roster than this movie. A lot of initial reports were that this movie was going to be about the "original x-men," so my bad for thinking of the Scott, Jean, Bobby, Hank, and Warren lineup.
That said, I'm still looking forward to checking it out. All my gripes are based on an ignorant first impression, and the trailers do look pretty good, so I won't down it if it is a good movie.
One thing I wished they'd done...
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** spoiler omitted **One thing I wished they'd done...
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Though his funniest adaptation was in World War Hulk. The X-men think he'll evolve to beat Hulk. Nope, he evolves to survive, he teleports away.
Oh, and I hated January Jones in this film. It's the only thing I've seen her in, and it was one of the low lights of the film.
I can't get over how some people seem incapable of realizing that comic book movies create a new continuity.I just can't get over how a movie about the "original" x-men, doesn't have the "original" x-men in it.The Beast was an original. Havok and Polaris are debatable.
Yes, I realize that. In fact...
(...and here's something that will get X-philes furious at me...)
...I think it's quite obvious that any re-telling of X-Men MUST have a new continuity, because most of the X-Men stories really aren't that good. Oh, they have many good IDEAS. And because of those good ideas, the X-comics provide a treasure trove for use in adaptations. That's what the X-books are to me; a treasure trove, NOT a sacred text. No adaptation should follow the X-Men comics exactly. That's why I actually find I like the X-movies MORE than the comics. And the same goes for the cartoon show from the 1990s.
(EDIT: Heh. I can't believe I called them "X-philes.")
I can't get over how some people seem incapable of realizing that comic book movies create a new continuity.I just can't get over how a movie about the "original" x-men, doesn't have the "original" x-men in it.The Beast was an original. Havok and Polaris are debatable.Yes, I realize that. In fact...
(...and here's something that will get X-philes furious at me...)
...I think it's quite obvious that any re-telling of X-Men MUST have a new continuity, because most of the X-Men stories really aren't that good. Oh, they have many good IDEAS. And because of those good ideas, the X-comics provide a treasure trove for use in adaptations. That's what the X-books are to me; a treasure trove, NOT a sacred text. No adaptation should follow the X-Men comics exactly. That's why I actually find I like the X-movies MORE than the comics. And the same goes for the cartoon show from the 1990s.
(EDIT: Heh. I can't believe I called them "X-philes.")
Yeah, I sort of agree. I haven't followed the comics story-wise since probably the mid-90's. If they tried to make a Days of Future's Past movie, or any of the other bloated, confusing storylines, I would be all about trimming the fat and digging up a better telling of the story. For as many years of different writers, characters, teams, etc as the X history is made up of, it'd be impossible to be anything but confusing as hell.
It just gets on my nerves when every new comic movie that comes out is like a director's chance to see how far they can mix things up while still barely keeping tabs on the IP in question(see Ang Lee's "Hulk"). Again, I have not seen the movie yet, and I'd like to. I don't mind slight re-tellings of story history if it makes for a more entertaining story.
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Well, now that Marvel finances most of the movies that come from it's comics, we will not see the problem crop up that much.
Examples:
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
The incredible Hulk
Thor
The 2000s marvel films were mostly crap (fantastic four and ang lee hulk i'm looking at you), because the director and the scriptwriter thought that the comics should be used as only guidelines. You can't do that with marvel characters. It would be like directing a LOTR movie and changing the names and races of all the important characters. The last straw was when galactus was a gas cloud that devoured planets...please....
Not now that marvel has control over that, they step in and reign in any wayward director, scriptwriter and anybody else who want to screw with their stuff...and i love that approach.
Well, now that Marvel finances most of the movies that come from it's comics, we will not see the problem crop up that much.
Examples:
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
The incredible Hulk
ThorThe 2000s marvel films were mostly crap (fantastic four and ang lee hulk i'm looking at you), because the director and the scriptwriter thought that the comics should be used as only guidelines. You can't do that with marvel characters. It would be like directing a LOTR movie and changing the names and races of all the important characters. The last straw was when galactus was a gas cloud that devoured planets...please....
Not now that marvel has control over that, they step in and reign in any wayward director, scriptwriter and anybody else who want to screw with their stuff...and i love that approach.
Remember for now, Xmen, Spiderman, and the Fantastic Four aren't under Marvel's movie control. They liscened them out so were still seeing non marvel backed xmen in this movie. When marvel gets back the rights (They wont let them continue, thats a guarantee) then they will be rebooted AGAIN.... But you the sayings: take the good with the bad, It gets worse before it gets better, etc...
Remember for now, Xmen, Spiderman, and the Fantastic Four aren't under Marvel's movie control. They liscened them out so were still seeing non marvel backed xmen in this movie. When marvel gets back the rights (They wont let them continue, thats a guarantee) then they will be rebooted AGAIN.... But you the sayings: take the good with the bad, It gets worse before it gets better, etc...
I'm chomping at the bit for that to happen. If there was ever a franchise that needed a reboot and better people at the reigns, it's x-men.
I'm not saying that everything about the series is wrong, but if you took all 5 movies, crammed them together and measured the good stuff, you'd find you had about an hour of good stuff crammed firmly into ten hours of garbage.
Remember for now, Xmen, Spiderman, and the Fantastic Four aren't under Marvel's movie control. They liscened them out so were still seeing non marvel backed xmen in this movie. When marvel gets back the rights (They wont let them continue, thats a guarantee) then they will be rebooted AGAIN.... But you the sayings: take the good with the bad, It gets worse before it gets better, etc...Well, now that Marvel finances most of the movies that come from it's comics, we will not see the problem crop up that much.
Examples:
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
The incredible Hulk
ThorThe 2000s marvel films were mostly crap (fantastic four and ang lee hulk i'm looking at you), because the director and the scriptwriter thought that the comics should be used as only guidelines. You can't do that with marvel characters. It would be like directing a LOTR movie and changing the names and races of all the important characters. The last straw was when galactus was a gas cloud that devoured planets...please....
Not now that marvel has control over that, they step in and reign in any wayward director, scriptwriter and anybody else who want to screw with their stuff...and i love that approach.
I think we've seen worse... Daredevil? Ghost Rider? The Punisher?
After the first movies failed to hit big, Marvel was able to scoop them back up. Marvel made the Punisher: War Zone sequel, and while it's not a great movie, it is canonically more accurate than any previous Punisher movie. Word is they're remaking Daredevil and Ghost Rider eventually as well. Nothing else is going to hit until after The Avengers movie is finished, all their eggs are going into that basket.
So one thing I have to ask the people who've seen this movie: When is it set? Do they give an actual timeframe/year when it takes place?
Oh, good. I was worried that someone wasn't going to do their math and really screw up the timeline, assuming they wanted some type of continuity with the previous movies.
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I think we've seen worse... Daredevil? Ghost Rider? The Punisher?
After the first movies failed to hit big, Marvel was able to scoop them back up. Marvel made the Punisher: War Zone sequel, and while it's not a great movie, it is canonically more accurate than any previous Punisher movie. Word is they're remaking Daredevil and Ghost Rider eventually as well. Nothing else is going to hit until after The Avengers movie is finished, all their eggs are going into that basket.
I thought Punisher: War Zone was much worse than the previous Punisher movie (which I actually rather enjoyed). This (Safe) was the only part I remember liking, and only then because it was so laughably bad. Seriously, it looks like they stole an explosion from an early 90's PC game.
Of course, I don't really give a hoot about Punisher canon, so that might explain why I wasn't terribly impressed.
/threadjack
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I think we've seen worse... Daredevil? Ghost Rider? The Punisher?
you forget the worst of them all: Elektra
the natural safeguards in your brain have probably stuffed it in some remote, inaccessible corner... that's the spot Xavier can't access even with the full might of Cerebro...
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I think we've seen worse... Daredevil? Ghost Rider? The Punisher?you forget the worst of them all: Elektra
the natural safeguards in your brain have probably stuffed it in some remote, inaccessible corner... that's the spot Xavier can't access even with the full might of Cerebro...
Thankfully i haven't seen the horror you speak of...and never will...
Probably +1
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They should have just called this movie Contractually Obligated Squeal staring Jennifer Garner because I can see no other reason why someone as talented and as smart as she is would want to do this film.
January 24, 2005Full Review | Comment
Richard Roeper
Ebert & Roeper
Top Critic
This comic book movie is an inert muddle that takes itself much too seriously
Rotten Tomatoes
The sad thing about Elektra is that it reveals that for all the millions of dollars now spent on them, comic-book movies are being made with no more distinction than the cheapest old Saturday-afternoon serials.
January 15, 2005Full Review | Comment
Charles Taylor
Salon.com
Top Critic
Breathlessly boring spinoff of Daredevil.
January 20, 2005Comment
Peter Travers
Rolling Stone
Top Critic
An utterly embarrassing misfire with poor performances, contrived elements, and a weak premise.
April 29, 2009Full Review | Comment
Felix Vasquez Jr.
Cinema Crazed
For all its slow-mo kick-flying and computer-generated mysticism, the story is tissue-thin and simple to the point of being simpleminded.
August 7, 2008Full Review | Comment
Jim Lane
Sacramento News & Review
As for Garner, she remains a lovely screen presence, but it's impossible to buy her as an emotionless killing machine.
March 1, 2007Full Review | Comment
Ethan Alter
Film Journal International
Elektra shoves Frank Miller's eponymous cold-blooded assassin into a PG-13-friendly adventure.
October 6, 2006Full Review | Comment
Keith Phipps
AV Club
During a fight, a character declared "Enough! It ends now." And I thought It's about time! Now there's a sure sign of an action movie falling short of its potential.
September 22, 2006Comment
Russ Breimeier
Christianity Today
Garner may justify her reputation as an action woman, but fails to prove that sais matter.
April 1, 2006Full Review | Comment
Helen OHara
Empire Magazine
Never mind giving 1000 chimps 1000 typewriters and having them produce a script in a week. Instead, give 1000 chimps $US100 million and see how long it takes them to come up with a blancmange blockbuster such as this.
January 17, 2006Full Review | Comment
Jim Schembri
Sydney Morning Herald
Absent an established fan base or cadre of recognizable villains, filmmakers are forced to shoehorn in superfluous back story and excessive inner turmoil.
December 6, 2005Full Review | Comment
Pete Vonder Haar
Film Threat
First of the worst one was catwoman not electra, even though electra still sucked as yes that last Punisher movie was bad.
Second I like the Fantasic four movies, the only problem I had with them was the horrible casting of that guy from nip/tuck for Dr doom.
Third I will not see this X-men movie in theatres if at all. I only liked the first 2 in the series. The continuty issues, bad writing, bad dialoug, change in there powers from comic, and many more issues I have with this series.
I don't know guys...I'm not a huge fan of the Punisher as I think he's pretty much a one note character but I kind of enjoyed the last Punisher movie. Keep in mind however if youre approaching the movie from the pretty much dead serious view of the Chuck Dixon written issues from the late 80's early 90's then I can totally see where youre coming from in hating the hell out of this movie.
But if you come into the movie with the frame of reference of the Garth Ennis not so serious, gallows humor from his run, especially the first 12 issues or so then I think that the movie at least it's tone was pretty much dead on.
Re: Daredevil & Elektra,
You know I dont like either of these movies. My buy in is pretty cheap which means that I really give a movie a chance to draw me in without nitpicking the hell out it which is one reason why I cant take fanboy reviews all that seriously as most time they just nitpick the hell out of things just to show how much in the know or smart they are.
But I can easily admit when I'm wrong and in the case of Daredevil they were TOTALLY correct. While Michael Clarke Duncan and Colin Farrell as the Kingpin and Bullseye were decent in thier parts (personally I would have loved Daniel Benzalli (sp?) for Kingpin but at that point I think he was a little long in the tooth for the role) the rest of it was pretty rank.
The movie lost me not when Daredevil basically allows that thug to be killed in the subway, but at that sparring session with Elektra in the playground IN FULL VIEW OF PLAYGROUND FULL OF KIDS, who I might add might think it would be pretty odd that an obviously BLIND GUY (with his stick and glasses) is sparring with some chick. I'm pretty sure that's when I stopped caring.
And Lord, dont even get me started on Elektra...
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First of the worst one was catwoman not electra, even though electra still sucked as yes that last Punisher movie was bad.
Second I like the Fantasic four movies, the only problem I had with them was the horrible casting of that guy from nip/tuck for Dr doom.
Third I will not see this X-men movie in theatres if at all. I only liked the first 2 in the series. The continuty issues, bad writing, bad dialoug, change in there powers from comic, and many more issues I have with this series.
You should try it. I reccomend the film warmly. It surprised me very pleasantly.
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You should try it. I reccomend the film warmly. It surprised me very pleasantly.First of the worst one was catwoman not electra, even though electra still sucked as yes that last Punisher movie was bad.
Second I like the Fantasic four movies, the only problem I had with them was the horrible casting of that guy from nip/tuck for Dr doom.
Third I will not see this X-men movie in theatres if at all. I only liked the first 2 in the series. The continuty issues, bad writing, bad dialoug, change in there powers from comic, and many more issues I have with this series.
I'd add, if it helps, that it seems to ignore the third movie. :-)
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The movie lost me not when Daredevil basically allows that thug to be killed in the subway, but at that sparring session with Elektra in the playground IN FULL VIEW OF PLAYGROUND FULL OF KIDS, who I might add might think it would be pretty odd that an obviously BLIND GUY (with his stick and glasses) is sparring with some chick. I'm pretty sure that's when I stopped caring.
Not that I'm defending the movie, but kids in Hell's Kitchen are used to seeing some pretty bizarre shiznit.
First of the worst one was catwoman not electra+1. Catwoman makes Electra look like Oscar material.
Yes, but Catwoman is DC, not Marvel, and so is disqualified on that technicality.
Not that I'm defending the movie, but kids in Hell's Kitchen are used to seeing some pretty bizarre shiznit..
The movie lost me not when Daredevil basically allows that thug to be killed in the subway, but at that sparring session with Elektra in the playground IN FULL VIEW OF PLAYGROUND FULL OF KIDS, who I might add might think it would be pretty odd that an obviously BLIND GUY (with his stick and glasses) is sparring with some chick. I'm pretty sure that's when I stopped caring.
In all seriousness, now that I think about it? Youre absolutley right. :-)
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First of the worst one was catwoman not electra, even though electra still sucked as yes that last Punisher movie was bad.
Second I like the Fantasic four movies, the only problem I had with them was the horrible casting of that guy from nip/tuck for Dr doom.
Third I will not see this X-men movie in theatres if at all. I only liked the first 2 in the series. The continuty issues, bad writing, bad dialoug, change in there powers from comic, and many more issues I have with this series.
I have the displeasure to have seen Catwoman and Elektra, and while both were steaming piles of crap, Elektra literally put me to sleep. Perhaps it was a mercy (and no, I didn't go back and rewatch the parts where I dozed off), but I at least was able to stay awake through Catwoman.
Both movies, though, were unmitigatedly awful.
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The Thor movie wasn't that much more true to comics than the others, but it was a much better movie because it was J.M. Straczynski who did the writing.
Actually, I was amazed at how they pulled off the trick of making the movie Asgard actually look like the Kirby/Buscema Asgard of the 60s and 70s without it looking totally ridiculous. Bright sunlight and impossibly dazzling star-filled skies, floating golden-spired cities and a bridge of rainbows - are you kidding? But it all fit together.
When I first saw stills from Thor, I thought everything looked too "shiny," which made it look fake. Then you sit and watch and remember that this is SUPPOSED TO BE , golden, shining, gleaming city of the gods, where everything is magnified in its magnificence, where it is supposed to look magical, just a little otherworldly. The Destroyer was nicely rendered, the frost giants suitably menacing (although not as GIANT as I would have expected).
They also did a nice job of capturing Loki's not-exactly-evilness and his sense of internal conflict, which is a key to him as an interesting villain.
Was it perfect? Few movies are, but I thought it did a fine job conveying the cosmic scope of Thor with a humanized grounding of the character. Just a touch of fish-out-of-water on Earth, but not so much that he seems like an idiot. The Asgardians know all about Earth, so logically an Asgardian shouldn't be stumbling around not knowing what anything is like he fell out a longship in the year 796 AD.
Now, Bifrost as a teleporting ray gun? Okay, you got me there. It had some internal consistency within the movie, but it was not my favorite part. :)
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As for the actual subject of this thread, I went to see First Class yesterday with my two teenagers, and we all LOVED it. Nice balancing of the characters, Magneto was completely a badass in the first third of the movie, and I loved the specific historical event/period grounding of the film.
I was very impressed with Fassbender and Bacon's language work speaking several languages with their characters. I'm sure native speakers could comment with more expertise, but they SOUNDED like smooth, fluent speakers to me in German, Russian, etc.
I think the 60's segue was a perfect introduction for the Hellfire Club, allowing them to use outfits that suit the comics tradition, underwear for Emma and throwback jacket and ascot for Shaw. Okay, so it's not strictly Revolutionary War period, but that 60's suit style DOES evoke an older motif (like Austin Powers and his lace cravat).
Speaking of Emma, I'm not on the "I hate January Jones" bandwagon. The only thing I recall seeing her in before is a bit part in Love Actually so I don't have any particular affection for her, but I thought playing Emma as cool, calculating, and self-possessed.
They pulled of a neat trick of having a large-cast ensemble film but giving a pretty good amount of face time to almost everybody (though Azazel and Riptide didn't have a single line that I recall - in fact, I had no idea who Riptide was until the credits; I was trying to think of which mutant creates whirlwinds - one of the Marauders, eh? okay).
Favorite little moments:
When you find out what those odd thumping sounds are when the kids are all together in the break room. Awful!
The cameos were terrific, funny, and also perfectly in character (both Wolverine as himself, and Mystique deciding to try to appear older).
The hair jokes were funny and not overdone (only 2 or 3 of them I think).
The old-school yellow and black costumes (including Banshee's flying squirrel wings and Havok's power control vest).
The in-character explanation for what happens to Xavier at the end.
Even the kids coming up with the names was pretty amusing.
All in all, this one is a winner.
P.S. As far as grognard cred, the first X-Men I ever bought was #172, though I later traded for X-Men back to 153 (the immortal Kitty's Fairy Tale), so 30 years I think that I've been reading em.
P.P.S. I'm glad they appear to have entirely ignored X-Men 3. I didn't see the Wolverine origins movie, so I can't comment on whether it was any good or how it connected to this one.
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@ Jason
I've coined the term 'Kirby-Porn' for Asgard. When I first saw it I was like "It's New Genesis! Oh, wait, Kirby drew that too. My G_d, it's Jack Kirby in 3D."
I didn't mind the 'wormhole cannon' since a) it looked like a rainbow, and b) the crystal bridge leading to the cannon looked like a rainbow. Taking the 'sufficiently advanced aliens' concept, it fit.
Glad you enjoyed First Class. I still think Ms. Jones did a poor version of Emma. My Stepford Cuckoo Hero Clix could have done a more dynamic job of acting.
I also liked the storm cameo too :-)
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Speaking of Emma, I'm not on the "I hate January Jones" bandwagon. The only thing I recall seeing her in before is a bit part in Love Actually so I don't have any particular affection for her, but I thought playing Emma as cool, calculating, and self-possessed.
I did like her scene where she's 'seducing' the Soviet general, and sitting on the couch at the same time, rolling her eyes and muttering 'pathetic.'
I was not hugely fond of the diamond-form graphic, but it did look a hell of a lot better than the one in the Wolverine movie.
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I'd add, if it helps, that it seems to ignore the third movie. :-)You should try it. I reccomend the film warmly. It surprised me very pleasantly.First of the worst one was catwoman not electra, even though electra still sucked as yes that last Punisher movie was bad.
Second I like the Fantasic four movies, the only problem I had with them was the horrible casting of that guy from nip/tuck for Dr doom.
Third I will not see this X-men movie in theatres if at all. I only liked the first 2 in the series. The continuty issues, bad writing, bad dialoug, change in there powers from comic, and many more issues I have with this series.
And the Wolverine Origins movie as well, considering both Emma's age and events about Charles near the end of the movie.
Id give it 3-4 out of 5 stars, depending on how important the canon is to you.
Definitely suggest seeing it.
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I'd add, if it helps, that it seems to ignore the third movie. :-)And the Wolverine Origins movie as well, considering both Emma's age and events about Charles near the end of the movie.
It also ignores some bits from X-Men 1 and 2.
In X1, it's stated that Xavier and Magneto built Cerebro. In First Class, Hank builds it. JUSTIFICATION - Magneto and Xavier helped him build it.
In X1, it's stated that Xavier built his anti-telepathy helmet (due to his knowledge of helping Xavier build Cerebro). In First Class, he took it from Shaw. JUSTIFICATION - He improved it later on? Yeah, this is pretty weak.
The implication in X1 and X2 is that Xavier and Magneto were friends for years. This is obviously not the case in First Class. JUSTIFICATION - None. This is flat out retcon.
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The helmet thing Im going to credit to the fact that the one he wears in X1 is not the same one from the new movie. The style is different, I believe. So you could go the route of "Did he come up with the idea? No. Did he make THAT helmet? Yes", which is a little less weak.
As for Cerebro, which I had forgotten about as well, that is probably my #1 'wtf' from the movie. So, according to the movie, Hank made Cerebro before meeting Charles. Id assume it would have taken him awhile, so he decided to build this machine on the slim off chance of them ever finding any single person in the entire world who could use it, cause they are mutants and have telepathy? Weaksauce.
As for Cerebro, which I had forgotten about as well, that is probably my #1 'wtf' from the movie. So, according to the movie, Hank made Cerebro before meeting Charles. Id assume it would have taken him awhile, so he decided to build this machine on the slim off chance of them ever finding any single person in the entire world who could use it, cause they are mutants and have telepathy? Weaksauce.
He was refering to the one in the mansion when he said that Magneto helped him build it. And he never claimed to have created the thing in the first place, so its not "wrong" really.
And since I hadn't wieghed in on it yet, I thought this was probably the best of the X-men movies to date.
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He was refering to the one in the mansion when he said that Magneto helped him build it. And he never claimed to have created the thing in the first place, so its not "wrong" really.
I was meaning Hank built the one featured in First Class before ever meeting Charles (or any telepathic person for that matter). Since it relies on a telepath to use, what was the point of building it in the first place? Just in case we might someone who can use it? Just in case the CIA authorizes us to create a mutant hero team?
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I was meaning Hank built the one featured in First Class before ever meeting Charles (or any telepathic person for that matter). Since it relies on a telepath to use, what was the point of building it in the first place? Just in case we might someone who can use it? Just in case the CIA authorizes us to create a mutant hero team?
He was refering to the one in the mansion when he said that Magneto helped him build it. And he never claimed to have created the thing in the first place, so its not "wrong" really.
I thought it was implied that Oliver Platt was Hank's father. It could be that Movie Beast a) had access to the theory that there would be telepaths out there. or b) He has Forge's powers too.
Oh, or c) He built it thinking he could use it (mutant seeking other mutants) and goofed. See, fur, blue. :-)
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If they had just put a line in it that Cerebro was built to detect the irregular brainwaves of mutants *inside of it* and that Charles could use it to amplify his own powers to detect mutant brainwaves across great distances, that might have made a bit more sense.
But, still, not really, since Oliver Platt didn't know that they had any mutants to test their detection-machine on anyway, and Hank wouldn't necessarily have known that mutants had irregular and detectable brainwaves, and would very likely not have created a machine that would 'out' him as a mutant if it was turned on.
That would be like Aldrich Ames creating a machine that detects spies and showing his bosses how it works.
"Yes, uh, let me just leave the room before you turn it on. I left the kettle on..."
Eh. Not enough to dampen my enjoyment of watching Magneto hunting Nazis in Argentina. Fun stuff.
I was meaning Hank built the one featured in First Class before ever meeting Charles (or any telepathic person for that matter). Since it relies on a telepath to use, what was the point of building it in the first place? Just in case we might someone who can use it? Just in case the CIA authorizes us to create a mutant hero team?
He was refering to the one in the mansion when he said that Magneto helped him build it. And he never claimed to have created the thing in the first place, so its not "wrong" really.
Actualy by cannon you don't need to be a telepath to use cerbro(I think Beast has actualy used it in the past...maybe others)...it just help a whole lot if you are.
Just saw it last week. Wasn't half bad at all. Something about the ending didn't sit right with me (not sure what it was), but otherwise pretty decent.
Not even a smidgen of continuity with... well... anything, but I'm used to that with now. They've mucked up X-Men so badly that I stopped caring. I just go when it's cheap now.