Hey :) - I just wanted to let everybody know that South Africa is celebrating National Cleavage Day (yes, seriously). As such it is Jerall and my civic and patriotic duty to encourage cleavage ogling. We moved to do so by posting two new class options:
Crimson Coquette (Jerall's bard archetype)
Oracle of Lust (my submission, complete with curse)
Please have fun and enjoy this auspicious day! Comments here or on tenletter are welcome! :)
*steam comes out the ears*
Future Mrs Urizen # 13 there.
Since we missed out on Pi day 2011, I think LoreKeeper tried to take things to eleventy+ for this year's NCD post.
South Africa, you are a very strange country at times.
Would those be called Terminatrix? :p
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This gets an internet from me.
However, I would have to say that the curse is a bit different than what I'd have done. Not that this is a bad thing by any means! I would use it in parallel with my take, which I'd not posted anywhere in a complete form so I'll put what I have in-thread, for opinions/sharing/scorn.
Curse - Sacrament of Flesh
As a conduit to forces of pleasure and delights most sensual, you are obligated to serve them in all ways, which carries both favor and stigma. No matter the amount of personal distaste that may be received, you are unable to refuse an earnest supplication for sacred communion with the powers of desire - you serve as the altar for their sacrifice, the worker of carnal rites and rituals. You enjoy a +4 bonus to Diplomacy with members of the opposite sex (and/or appropriate orientation at GM discretion), but a -8 penalty from the same sex (or inappropriate orientation). At 5th level, you place a Suggestion as a spell-like ability on any whom enjoy your 'services' and your Diplomacy bonus and penalty change to +6/-4; at 10th level you may place a Geas instead, with reactions becoming +8/+2 as those who once saw you as beneath contempt gain insight into your sacred purpose. At 10th level, when casting suggestion from an oracle spell slot, compute the DC as if the spell was cast from the highest level oracle spell known to you. At 15th level you can spend an entire eight hour time period, breaks permitted only for food and other needed bodily functions, to supply a supplicant with an Atonement as per the spell with no material cost - however, the supplicant will be fatigued for three days, and can take actions no greater than walking or other mild activity without suffering 1d4 Con damage and falling unconscious for as many days as point of ability damage taken. At 20th level no living creature will attempt to deliberately kill you - to take lethal hostile action they must succeed versus their weakest save at a penalty of your charisma bonus plus half your level. On a success they will take action normally; on a failure they will opt to either ignore you or obsess over claiming you for their own purposes, willingly inflicting only subdual damage to make sure the goods are not overly injured. Your reaction bonus is now +8/+4, and you will find yourself in great demand for certain sorts of 'social gatherings'.
Curse - Sacrament of Flesh
.........At 15th level you can spend an entire eight hour time period, breaks permitted only for food and other needed bodily functions, to supply a supplicant with an Atonement as per the spell with no material cost - however, the supplicant will be fatigued for three days, and can take actions no greater than walking or other mild activity without suffering 1d4 Con damage and falling unconscious for as many days as point of ability damage taken...........
...... You're trying to make it fun for Paladins to fall, aren't you?
...... You're trying to make it fun for Paladins to fall, aren't you?Curse - Sacrament of Flesh
.........At 15th level you can spend an entire eight hour time period, breaks permitted only for food and other needed bodily functions, to supply a supplicant with an Atonement as per the spell with no material cost - however, the supplicant will be fatigued for three days, and can take actions no greater than walking or other mild activity without suffering 1d4 Con damage and falling unconscious for as many days as point of ability damage taken...........
It's only fall-fodder if there is a specific provision for paladins to be chaste.
I don't make such mandates without good cause.
Besides, an Oracle with the Sacrament of Flesh curse will utterly wreck a Paladin's plans, even IF their deity sanctions the holy nookie, purely because it is not merely a roll in the hay - it is, in every sense of the word, a Religious Experience.
See also - qedeshim/qedeshot, Ishtar and Aphrodite Temple Prostitutes, etc, etc.
Then again, I don't picture the Romans or Mesopotamians having Paladins or the accompanying problems. I could be, and have no problems with being, wrong on that front.
Curse - Sacrament of FleshAs a conduit to forces of pleasure and delights most sensual, you are obligated to serve them in all ways, which carries both favor and stigma. No matter the amount of personal distaste that may be received, you are unable to refuse an earnest supplication for sacred communion with the powers of desire - you serve as the altar for their sacrifice, the worker of carnal rites and rituals. You enjoy a +4 bonus to Diplomacy with members of the opposite sex (and/or appropriate orientation at GM discretion), but a -8 penalty from the same sex (or inappropriate orientation). At 5th level, you place a Suggestion as a spell-like ability on any whom enjoy your 'services' and your Diplomacy bonus and penalty change to +6/-4; at 10th level you may place a Geas instead, with reactions becoming +8/+2 as those who once saw you as beneath contempt gain insight into your sacred purpose. At 10th level, when casting suggestion from an oracle spell slot, compute the DC as if the spell was cast from the highest level oracle spell known to you. At 15th level you can spend an entire eight hour time period, breaks permitted only for food and other needed bodily functions, to supply a supplicant with an Atonement as per the spell with no material cost - however, the supplicant will be fatigued for three days, and can take actions no greater than walking or other mild activity without suffering 1d4 Con damage and falling unconscious for as many days as point of ability damage taken. At 20th level no living creature will attempt to deliberately kill you - to take lethal hostile action they must succeed versus their weakest save at a penalty of your charisma bonus plus half your...
This is a pretty neat take on it. My criticism would be that it is too narrow and focused. And due to the subject matter becomes something that can only be entertained for certain forms of roleplaying with a very select group of players (or say with your lover). (I tried to keep my version mature, but viable to mature playgroups at large, and offer benefits that apply in a broader selection of circumstances.)
I'd really shy away from geas and atonement effects. Atonement especially is not a mechanic I'd reasonably allow as a GM. Rather I'd go with a long-term (days duration) heroism or something along that kin.
The "versus weakest save" at level 20 is something I'd also not use as a mechanical construct. (What? The dragon will try to reflex save itself from not being able to attack you?) Make it a will save, and the DC is computed as 20 + Charisma modifier. Essentially a modified and permanent sanctuary effect.
But, post more on your development on this theme! :D
I'm sure the 'gomakemeasandwich' people will start whining in a few minutes.
South Africa: Great White Sharks and National Cleavage Day. Dang good reasons to go there for a vacation.
Curse - Sacrament of Flesh!:
As a conduit to forces of pleasure and delights most sensual, you are obligated to serve them in all ways, which carries both favor and stigma. No matter the amount of personal distaste that may be received, you are unable to refuse an earnest supplication for sacred communion with the powers of desire - you serve as the altar for their sacrifice, the worker of carnal rites and rituals. You enjoy a +4 bonus to Diplomacy with members of the opposite sex (and/or appropriate orientation at GM discretion), but a -8 penalty from the same sex (or inappropriate orientation). At 5th level, you place a Suggestion as a spell-like ability on any whom enjoy your 'services' and your Diplomacy bonus and penalty change to +6/-4; at 10th level you may place a Geas instead, with reactions becoming +8/+2 as those who once saw you as beneath contempt gain insight into your sacred purpose. At 10th level, when casting suggestion from an oracle spell slot, compute the DC as if the spell was cast from the highest level oracle spell known to you. At 15th level you can spend an entire eight hour time period, breaks permitted only for food and other needed bodily functions, to supply a supplicant with an Atonement as per the spell with no material cost - however, the supplicant will be fatigued for three days, and can take actions no greater than walking or other mild activity without suffering 1d4 Con damage and falling unconscious for as many days as point of ability damage taken. At 20th level no living creature will attempt to deliberately kill you - to take lethal hostile action they must succeed versus their weakest save at a penalty of your charisma bonus plus half your...This is a pretty neat take on it. My criticism would be that it is too narrow and focused. And due to the subject matter becomes something that can only be entertained for certain forms of roleplaying with a very select group of players (or say with your lover). (I tried to keep my version mature, but viable to mature playgroups at large, and offer benefits that apply in a broader selection of circumstances.)
Thus the main reason why I differentiated and mentioned same - a lot of my games have just as much social fu as hack'n'slash, so I occasionally get players who want characters who can work that route...especially in one of my PbP groups, which is on a distinctively NSFW site. However, as it is a distinctively 'adventures with the smut left in' type of situation, I don't have to necessarily worry about self-censorship as much. Also, while some people go 'so why have rules if there's to be TEH CYB0rZ LULZ' at the concept, I look at it from the perspective that fade-to-black is appropriate in some cases, but sometimes the smut is completely and totally plot-relevant. Some of the best clues are the things noticed in the heat of the moment; sometimes, my players consider it part of the reward more important than the treasure. It's a quirky sort of quid pro quo.
I'd really shy away from geas and atonement effects. Atonement especially is not a mechanic I'd reasonably allow as a GM. Rather I'd go with a long-term (days duration) heroism or something along that kin.See, I like that idea, but the problem I run into is that I want it to be more of a, for lack of better phrasing, 'un-suck instead of a extra buff'. While there's certain justification of invoking Marvin Gaye, and when they get that feelin', I wanted the healing in question to be more of a restorative than an enhancement. Alternately, I'd want to change the restorative aspect to more of a sub-domain-esque quality, with the default version being the buff, so there's differentiation amongst Oracles of said Mystery, which I should finish the details up for...
The "versus weakest save" at level 20 is something I'd also not use as a mechanical construct. (What? The dragon will try to reflex save itself from not being able to attack you?) Make it a will save, and the DC is computed as 20 + Charisma modifier. Essentially a modified and permanent sanctuary effect.It's been a long week, and my mechanics brain went 'hurr' at that part, but the idea was that I wanted the effect to work as a 'target the weakest part of the enemy's resistances' mechanic with the justifying flavor being more or less 'the spirit is willing but the will is too busy of thinking of the ways it would be better to have this one alive' versus 'the normally reflexive and dismissive way you might dispatch other foes falters, due to temptation' versus 'while typically you'd crush the skull of the sort of pretty yet ineffectual manner of thing before you, the faintest twinge in the belly, conjoined with the abruptly violent stirring of the loins, deters you from landing a killing blow'. Will save makes more sense, though. And sanctuary is EXACTLY the effect I couldn't recall the name of.
But, post more on your development on this theme! :DWill do - in part, this was spawned by several projects, one of which was inspired by the awe-inspiring Vudra thread, as well as some ideas spawned by Heroes of the Jade Oath, and the fact that my party wants more smut out of me in context of game, because they evidently think my interplay of eroticism and adventure is a thing of beauty.
I just humor where I can. Meanwhile, I plot something for another group involving a folklore-style acquisition by a farmer of a female oni (or possibly female farmer and capturing the oni by other means). It's been one of those ideas making my mind itch for a while; part of the notion was the idea of a Yakshini ending up a virtuous being while still keeping certain 'base' urges and temperament, in a blatant theft of a certain undergarment-themed protagonist from a certain anime.
South Africa: Great White Sharks and National Cleavage Day. Dang good reasons to go there for a vacation.
Vacation? I want to go live there.
@At Lorekeeper: I really have to ask: The Ebony and Ivory picture from Oracle of High Cleavage, where is it from? Is it from an actual anime or an artist around the interwebs? CAN I HAS LINKS PLEASE?
@VM mercenario: I'm sorry, I really tried to track down where the picture comes from, but I couldn't track anything down. The only hint I can give you is that the art work is apparently signed with a small drawn square with a "23" inside. Perhaps there is an artist on deviantArt that signs his/her art that way?
@VM mercenario: I'm sorry, I really tried to track down where the picture comes from, but I couldn't track anything down. The only hint I can give you is that the art work is apparently signed with a small drawn square with a "23" inside. Perhaps there is an artist on deviantArt that signs his/her art that way?
I can't double check at the moment due to being at work, but I did get some results using TinEye reverse image search.
This will kill this topic.
If this, instead, turns you on, don't tell me.
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If this, instead, turns you on, don't tell me.
Some things once seen may never been unseen.
I hate you.
Sorry.
I thought this topic might be bad for the game as it is sexist and hypocriticle. Better than if you added thoes classes to your game and the GM added an insain, fat, male, NPC, turned up trying to seduce people.
I heard of one player had their monk character ruined by an NPC suducing them. The campaign fell apart quickly.
......
Well, thank you for adding some more horrific wounds to my already-battered mind. I haven't seen anything so sanity-shattering since my second GM ran an unholy bastardization of Chuluthu and Yaoi-Tentacle monsters against the party.
Sorry.
I thought this topic might be bad for the game as it is sexist and hypocriticle. Better than if you added thoes classes to your game and the GM added an insain, fat, male, NPC, turned up trying to seduce people.
I heard of one player had their monk character ruined by an NPC suducing them. The campaign fell apart quickly.
Defecating in a thread does nothing but generate excessive unnecessary enmity, scorn, derision, and mocking. It opens one up for ridicule for things as petty as one's username, avatar, spelling, and assumption that the 'That Guy' of your game equates to anyone who dares touch upon the titillating (heh), and in some cases is enough to get the more venomous of the denizens to make such quotes as "Hey, nice self-portrait, mallgoth!"
If there must be posterior pain over the burgeoning of bountiful bosom and gratuitous general white knighting (regardless of expectations of said saved fair maidens offering physical rewards for your internet gallantry), then consider that in the example offered forth on my part, the speculated offering of flesh applies to both genders, in equal measure; similarly, one could easily speculate or touch upon an order of banana-hammock-wearing manly men (or long-haired pretty boys, depending on your preference), but that at least would have been appropriate and thematic to the thread.
What you have offered is nothing short of unmitigated spite born of a fit of fugue. I award you no points, for it is so bland and inoffensive as to prompt yawning, first, and then an irritation that you've not only tried to troll the thread, but did so in such a woefully inadequate manner that the only entertainment that might be derived from it is mocking it, as much as it is deserved.
As one might say in the impersonation of an over-the-top faux-Russian Gunslinger wielding a chaingun, "Cry some more."
Hey :) - I just wanted to let everybody know that South Africa is celebrating National Cleavage Day (yes, seriously). As such it is Jerall and my civic and patriotic duty to encourage cleavage ogling. We moved to do so by posting two new class options:
Crimson Coquette (Jerall's bard archetype)
Oracle of Lust (my submission, complete with curse)Please have fun and enjoy this auspicious day! Comments here or on tenletter are welcome! :)
You know, I did take a shot at this, a while back ago.
Thanks AntiElite. Eloquent and succinct in appropriate measure.
Good show Lord Fyre, it's a fun start. But it lacks the obvious imagery appeal. You could expand on that ;)
Dark Mistress makes every thread more awesome by sheer proximity. And a thread dedicated to emulating her in the form of archetypes can only grow more serious and acutely accurate in her presence. :)
I can't double check at the moment due to being at work, but I did get some results using TinEye reverse image search.@VM mercenario: I'm sorry, I really tried to track down where the picture comes from, but I couldn't track anything down. The only hint I can give you is that the art work is apparently signed with a small drawn square with a "23" inside. Perhaps there is an artist on deviantArt that signs his/her art that way?
And thanks Oni_NZ! I've found that the clue I could find (23) actually pays out via the TinEye.
The artist is "real xxiii"; googling "real xxiii artist" will get you more work by him(her?).
Found it. Thanks, LoreKeeper and Oni_NZ
And at the mallGoth: That's your attempt at trolling? I've roamed the chan boards buddy. That doesn't even ping on my gross-out scale anymore. But still not a cool thing to do round here where people don't expect to have their brains randomly scarred. Not cool.
Good show Lord Fyre, it's a fun start. But it lacks the obvious imagery appeal. You could expand on that ;)
Really?
Because the image that most immediately comes to mind might not be what you expect.
Another image that comes to mind would also be a little different then you are looking for.
See? Now you adding the imagery appeal. Essential for these kinds of ideas. (I don't mean your prosaic imagery, which is great - just the visual kind.)
One manner of dueling thought process that came of this topic, as well as other projects I'm working on that cannot be disclosed yet*, was the fact that when working with the concepts of lust and hedonism most physical one has to look at the approach favored by the deity/patron in question. For example, a more actively involved deity (say, Calistria) would be more likely to have their clergy serve as conduits to communion with the god/-dess in question, and expect those who serve to partake as well as promote. In contrast, a more passive deity (such as the less physically-oriented Shelyn) would likely be more inclined to inspire such desires and urges in their worshipers, but rather than directly indulging would serve as the inspiration for the lay (heh) faithful.
Consider the approaches as 'play well with each other' versus 'look but don't touch...me at least, each other is fine'.
Now that I think of it, it would stand to reason that allied clergies might form sorts of shared 'societies' dedicated to their overlapping interests - for example, a dance/feast hall that could literally be a pleasing place for dancing and feasting, or only such things by euphemistic proxy as a cover for a bordello catering to the finer things in life in moderation, with the beautiful hearing confession from the burdened before turning them over to the beatific buxom to relieve the supplicants of burdens both spiritual and bodily.
In theory, such an arrangement might make for a far more financially viable sponsorship for those who would perform services for the faithful. In application, it could even give justification for more esoteric attempts at and endeavors towards proselytization; sending heroes out to rescue a nymph that has been subject to harassment from enemies of the faith might net not only converts, but a potential ally...
Good show Lord Fyre, it's a fun start. But it lacks the obvious imagery appeal. You could expand on that ;)Really?
Because the image that most immediately comes to mind might not be what you expect.
Another image that comes to mind would also be a little different then you are looking for.
Or just watch one of the moviesGood show Lord Fyre, it's a fun start. But it lacks the obvious imagery appeal. You could expand on that ;)Really?
Because the image that most immediately comes to mind might not be what you expect.
Another image that comes to mind would also be a little different then you are looking for.
I have to say read the book...as most of the movies version just fall short for the most part.
Or just watch one of the moviesGood show Lord Fyre, it's a fun start. But it lacks the obvious imagery appeal. You could expand on that ;)Really?
Because the image that most immediately comes to mind might not be what you expect.
Another image that comes to mind would also be a little different then you are looking for.
I have to say read the book...as most of the movies version just fall short for the most part.
Most of?? Don't get me wrong some of them are great movies. None of them do the books any justice.
Tangent!
Lust really should be a full domain, rather than sub, with fetish as a subdomain thereof.