Pepperbox: Spinning the barrel


Gunslinger Discussion: Round 2


Do you need a free hand to advance the barrel on a pepperbox? Is it possible to use a pepperbox in each hand and full attack with both of them without having to drop one to switch to the next barrel?

Silver Crusade

As I said in another post Perperbox guns should not have a revolving mechinism. They have multible triggers that fire the various barrells.
Why make them into proto revolvers when they were not.

The best example of a peperbox style of gun is the boarding gun the SGT Harper used in several eposides of the Sharpe series.

A modern version of a peper box gun is a .357 Cop. A 4 barreled hide out pistol.


But pepperbox revolvers were a thing, and it's what the Pathfinder pepperbox is: See?


Pepperbox revolvers were notorious for a specific type of misfire where all the barrels would end up going off.

As such I'm going to use a house rule that if you roll a natural 1 with a pepperbox you roll another d20 -- if it's a natural 20 then you get to fire all barrels at the target at a -5 penalty (like a free deadshot) but you are dazed until the start of your next turn.


Abraham spalding wrote:

Pepperbox revolvers were notorious for a specific type of misfire where all the barrels would end up going off.

As such I'm going to use a house rule that if you roll a natural 1 with a pepperbox you roll another d20 -- if it's a natural 20 then you get to fire all barrels at the target at a -5 penalty (like a free deadshot) but you are dazed until the start of your next turn.

That reminds me entirely of this, and I like that.

Dark Archive

Lou Diamond wrote:

As I said in another post Perperbox guns should not have a revolving mechinism. They have multible triggers that fire the various barrells.

Why make them into proto revolvers when they were not.

The best example of a peperbox style of gun is the boarding gun the SGT Harper used in several eposides of the Sharpe series.

I wouldn't use that gun as an example, since the Nock Gun actually discharged all seven barrels simultaneously, when one trigger was pulled, something volley guns have in common.

Senior Designer

'Rixx wrote:
Do you need a free hand to advance the barrel on a pepperbox? Is it possible to use a pepperbox in each hand and full attack with both of them without having to drop one to switch to the next barrel?

You need a free action and a free hand to advance the barrel of a pepperbox. But there will be a feat that allows you do it with no hands (among other things).

Senior Designer

Lou Diamond wrote:

As I said in another post Perperbox guns should not have a revolving mechinism. They have multible triggers that fire the various barrells.

Why make them into proto revolvers when they were not.

The best example of a peperbox style of gun is the boarding gun the SGT Harper used in several eposides of the Sharpe series.

A modern version of a peper box gun is a .357 Cop. A 4 barreled hide out pistol.

Well, if Wikipedia is to be believed, we should not confuse a pepperbox with a volley gun. They also didn't have multiple triggers, at least all the ones we are looking at for inspiration.

All that said, the Pathfinder pepperbox is a rotating barrel proto-revolver. We are going to produce a number of firearms for the game, that while inspired by historical weapons, are better fits for the game and the setting.

That’s the joy of fiction.


Stephen Radney-MacFarland wrote:

Well, if Wikipedia is to be believed, we should not confuse a pepperbox with a volley gun. They also didn't have multiple triggers, at least all the ones we are looking at for inspiration.

All that said, the Pathfinder pepperbox is a rotating barrel proto-revolver. We are going to produce a number of firearms for the game, that while inspired by historical weapons, are better fits for the game and the setting.

That’s the joy of fiction.

Yes, and if we believe wikipedia again :

This type of weapon was popular in North America from 1830 until the American Civil War, in the 15th century when several single shot barrels were attached to a stock, being fired individually by means of a match.

And

Around 1790 pepperboxes were built on the basis of flintlock systems [...] These weapons, building on the success of the earlier two-barrel turnover pistols, were fitted with three, four or seven barrels. These early pepperboxes were hand-rotated.

And

The pepperbox, at least the weapon that is mostly associated with this term, was invented in the 1830s [...] A few percussion pepperboxes were still hand-rotated but most have a mechanism that rotates the barrel group as the hammer is cocked for each shot. Single-action versions were made, notably by Darling of Massachusetts, but the vast majority use the self-cocking system whereby squeezing the trigger rotates the barrel block, cocks the hammer and finally fires the weapon.

In fact a pepperbox is mostly a revolver : It was similar to the later revolver in that it contained bullets in separate chambers in a rotating cylinder. Unlike the revolver, however, each chamber had its own barrel

So a second hand might be needed, depend on the type of the pepperbox ;)

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