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I can take you to another city then amsterdam :PI finally had an epiphany about big tourist cities.
Just like San Francisco, after just a couple of days in London, Edinburgh, or Paris, I’m ready to flee town. And I finally realized it’s the crowds, the noise, and the pollution. Here in Paris the city is beautiful, the people are (finally) welcoming... but the constant need to dodge other people, the inhalation of second-hand smoke, vaping, and diesel fumes, and the neverending battle to actually get anywhere just wears me down quickly.
If Paris were 20 degrees cooler and empty, I could spend a month here poking around. With the crowds, I’d practically rather go hungry than go out again.
But we have a boat tour on the Seine, and it will be beautiful, and so out I will go.
*I* would vastly prefer a bicycle tour of *your* lovely city. But GothBard, Shiro, and possibly one of the Impii would hate me forever for it...
...so Amsterdam it is!EDIT: And naked bicycling is the best bicycling...
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Watch out for saddle chafe.
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Dude, the population of my entire county was 400K back in 2000, and that was entirely too many people for me then.
*laugh*
400k
*laugh*
In 2000 the population of the county I grew up in was 14200 (and that's rounding up).
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I lived in a county without a single stoplight.
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Watch out for saddle chafe.
... what saddle?
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I lived in a county without a single stoplight.
Same.
I believe the first stoplight was finally installed around 1995-96, after I had moved out. The second one went in within a couple months of that. No new ones have been added since.
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Whelp, Homunculus #1 just walked in on Mrs Sunrise and I and is now hiding. Dying of embarrassment, I'm sure.
all part of growing up.
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I can take you to another city then amsterdam :PI finally had an epiphany about big tourist cities.
Just like San Francisco, after just a couple of days in London, Edinburgh, or Paris, I’m ready to flee town. And I finally realized it’s the crowds, the noise, and the pollution. Here in Paris the city is beautiful, the people are (finally) welcoming... but the constant need to dodge other people, the inhalation of second-hand smoke, vaping, and diesel fumes, and the neverending battle to actually get anywhere just wears me down quickly.
If Paris were 20 degrees cooler and empty, I could spend a month here poking around. With the crowds, I’d practically rather go hungry than go out again.
But we have a boat tour on the Seine, and it will be beautiful, and so out I will go.
*I* would vastly prefer a bicycle tour of *your* lovely city. But GothBard, Shiro, and possibly one of the Impii would hate me forever for it...
...so Amsterdam it is!EDIT: And naked bicycling is the best bicycling...
see, here we agree.
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Totally. It took me until the third and final day of our first visit to even stop hating New York, and a second visit to actually love it. Ditto for Paris. And after 22 years of living in the Bay Area, I never managed to love SF. More of a grudging occasional fondness.Some of us really really hate crowds of people. The idea of trying to live in a place like that makes my skin crawl just thinking about.where is the eye rolling emoji when you need it?I finally had an epiphany about big tourist cities.
Just like San Francisco, after just a couple of days in London, Edinburgh, or Paris, I’m ready to flee town. And I finally realized it’s the crowds, the noise, and the pollution. Here in Paris the city is beautiful, the people are (finally) welcoming... but the constant need to dodge other people, the inhalation of second-hand smoke, vaping, and diesel fumes, and the neverending battle to actually get anywhere just wears me down quickly.
If Paris were 20 degrees cooler and empty, I could spend a month here poking around. With the crowds, I’d practically rather go hungry than go out again.
But we have a boat tour on the Seine, and it will be beautiful, and so out I will go.
that's it. I'm sending more pictures.
Also WHEN WERE YOU HERE?!?
July of 2007 and December of 2009.
December was the best. I got to sit in my favorite room in the Metropolitan museum (the Temple of Dendur room) and watch the snow falling outside the big windows.
we have to do that some day.
Except I am bringing my cell phone and freshly baked cookies from that place CH took me to.
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Some of us really really hate crowds of people. The idea of trying to live in a place like that makes my skin crawl just thinking about.where is the eye rolling emoji when you need it?I finally had an epiphany about big tourist cities.
Just like San Francisco, after just a couple of days in London, Edinburgh, or Paris, I’m ready to flee town. And I finally realized it’s the crowds, the noise, and the pollution. Here in Paris the city is beautiful, the people are (finally) welcoming... but the constant need to dodge other people, the inhalation of second-hand smoke, vaping, and diesel fumes, and the neverending battle to actually get anywhere just wears me down quickly.
If Paris were 20 degrees cooler and empty, I could spend a month here poking around. With the crowds, I’d practically rather go hungry than go out again.
But we have a boat tour on the Seine, and it will be beautiful, and so out I will go.
I'm not rolling my eyes at that. I'm rolling my eyes at the considerable probability that NH is complaining about himself.
7 times out of ten(using that estimate because rush hour 2x/day and lunch rush 1x/day) the huge crowds of people around here are composed entiely of tourists. They dont know where they are and are too intimidated to ask directions/believe googlemaps, and kind of just mill about blocking the sidewalk, creating the illusion of crowding when in all probability it's just 3 to 4 modest-sized groups of people waiting for googlemaps to update/work up the courage to ask someone where something is/waiting for something to open.
LOLOL. This is proof you’ve never met me. If my kids even slow down in a walkway I physically shove them to the side. Getting in other people’s way is anathema to me, and 90% of my stress from crowds is herding my group to keep them out of everybody else’s way.
You just described my most-hated nemesis: The...
we could do Rockefeller center then. I dont think Chinatown would work for you. Then again Chinatown has changed so much...
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I lived in a county without a single stoplight.
I believe it, although I have not seen it.
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I lived in a county without a single stoplight.Same.
I believe the first stoplight was finally installed around 1995-96, after I had moved out. The second one went in within a couple months of that. No new ones have been added since.
I have seen it(via map) but I dont believe it.
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Totally. It took me until the third and final day of our first visit to even stop hating New York, and a second visit to actually love it. Ditto for Paris. And after 22 years of living in the Bay Area, I never managed to love SF. More of a grudging occasional fondness.Some of us really really hate crowds of people. The idea of trying to live in a place like that makes my skin crawl just thinking about.where is the eye rolling emoji when you need it?I finally had an epiphany about big tourist cities.
Just like San Francisco, after just a couple of days in London, Edinburgh, or Paris, I’m ready to flee town. And I finally realized it’s the crowds, the noise, and the pollution. Here in Paris the city is beautiful, the people are (finally) welcoming... but the constant need to dodge other people, the inhalation of second-hand smoke, vaping, and diesel fumes, and the neverending battle to actually get anywhere just wears me down quickly.
If Paris were 20 degrees cooler and empty, I could spend a month here poking around. With the crowds, I’d practically rather go hungry than go out again.
But we have a boat tour on the Seine, and it will be beautiful, and so out I will go.
that's it. I'm sending more pictures.
Also WHEN WERE YOU HERE?!?
July of 2007 and December of 2009.
December was the best. I got to sit in my favorite room in the Metropolitan museum (the Temple of Dendur room) and watch the snow falling outside the big windows.we have to do that some day.
Except I am bringing my cell phone and freshly baked cookies from that place CH took me to.
Well, now that my grandmother is gone, my mom and Eve are talking about moving to New Hampshire. Mom and I went there for a week, nine years ago, and she fell in love with it. So if I start spending vacation time there instead of in Oregon, well, New York is not that far away.
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Newest game that absolutely no one should get.
Pimple Pete.
If you have to pop pimples to win a game, you've already lost.
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I finally had an epiphany about big tourist cities.
Just like San Francisco, after just a couple of days in London, Edinburgh, or Paris, I’m ready to flee town. And I finally realized it’s the crowds, the noise, and the pollution. Here in Paris the city is beautiful, the people are (finally) welcoming... but the constant need to dodge other people, the inhalation of second-hand smoke, vaping, and diesel fumes, and the neverending battle to actually get anywhere just wears me down quickly.
If Paris were 20 degrees cooler and empty, I could spend a month here poking around. With the crowds, I’d practically rather go hungry than go out again.
But we have a boat tour on the Seine, and it will be beautiful, and so out I will go.
See, this is why you go in August not July, when there are less people and it’s lovely even if you are an introvert. :)
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Just found out on FB that one of my best friends from college just lost his wife this morning.
Root canal infection that went septic. She was in the ICU and they were trying to get her stabilized for surgery.
Steph and Rog were expecting their first grandchild this fall, and they still have two kids in high school.
They married the week before we graduated, and for 23 years, she's been his world.
That’s awful! So sorry :(
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Totally. It took me until the third and final day of our first visit to even stop hating New York, and a second visit to actually love it. Ditto for Paris. And after 22 years of living in the Bay Area, I never managed to love SF. More of a grudging occasional fondness.Some of us really really hate crowds of people. The idea of trying to live in a place like that makes my skin crawl just thinking about.where is the eye rolling emoji when you need it?I finally had an epiphany about big tourist cities.
Just like San Francisco, after just a couple of days in London, Edinburgh, or Paris, I’m ready to flee town. And I finally realized it’s the crowds, the noise, and the pollution. Here in Paris the city is beautiful, the people are (finally) welcoming... but the constant need to dodge other people, the inhalation of second-hand smoke, vaping, and diesel fumes, and the neverending battle to actually get anywhere just wears me down quickly.
If Paris were 20 degrees cooler and empty, I could spend a month here poking around. With the crowds, I’d practically rather go hungry than go out again.
But we have a boat tour on the Seine, and it will be beautiful, and so out I will go.
Oddly enough, in spite of being an introvert with sensory sensitivities, I actually love cities. I loved New York and Paris. And Baltimore, but not DC. London was okay. Chicago is a favorite place to visit. Sure, I need the noise cancelling headphones at times, but that’s true here too. And the ability to be invisible in a crowd is quite lovely. Also I’m an architecture nerd, so I may be too distracted by my special interest to even remember there are people around. :P
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lisamarlene, so sorry to hear that.
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Oddly enough, in spite of being an introvert with sensory sensitivities, I actually love cities. I loved New York and Paris. And Baltimore, but not DC. London was okay. Chicago is a favorite place to visit. Sure, I need the noise cancelling headphones at times, but that’s true here too. And the ability to be invisible in a crowd is quite lovely. Also I’m an architecture nerd, so I may be too distracted by my special interest to even remember there are people around. :PTotally. It took me until the third and final day of our first visit to even stop hating New York, and a second visit to actually love it. Ditto for Paris. And after 22 years of living in the Bay Area, I never managed to love SF. More of a grudging occasional fondness.Some of us really really hate crowds of people. The idea of trying to live in a place like that makes my skin crawl just thinking about.where is the eye rolling emoji when you need it?I finally had an epiphany about big tourist cities.
Just like San Francisco, after just a couple of days in London, Edinburgh, or Paris, I’m ready to flee town. And I finally realized it’s the crowds, the noise, and the pollution. Here in Paris the city is beautiful, the people are (finally) welcoming... but the constant need to dodge other people, the inhalation of second-hand smoke, vaping, and diesel fumes, and the neverending battle to actually get anywhere just wears me down quickly.
If Paris were 20 degrees cooler and empty, I could spend a month here poking around. With the crowds, I’d practically rather go hungry than go out again.
But we have a boat tour on the Seine, and it will be beautiful, and so out I will go.
I am much the same. I live in a (small) city and love it. But I do not live downtown (though in a well-visited area), in fairness. But in general, the city is not the kind of place where you're going to be in a pressing throng of people most of the time (unless you're going specifically to a pressing-throng sort of event like 4th of July fireworks or something, which I don't). It is easy to mind your own business and blend in, and or find a quiet spot to get away, even in many heavily touristy areas. There's lots of green space in the city which helps. People are friendly enough it doesn't feel cold/impersonal but give you space. I like all you can do and see in cities. I like being able to walk to the coffee shop. I find it pretty easy to be on my own and yet amid a community.
I do find New York--well, Manhattan, specifically, to be to stiflingly crowded and... I don't know... rushed. I love all there is to see there, but I can't stay long. Only other city I ever hated that I visited was LA, which for lack of a better explanation I can only say I found to be the most soulless environment I ever occupied.
I grew up in the country and I miss the quiet and fresh air, but my religious community is out in the country so I can enjoy it on Sundays at least. And I much prefer the commute I have. (Plus, where I live, it is FAR cheaper to live in the city than in the country; I realize I need to point this out because in some parts of the U.S. the situation is the opposite.)
I absolutely can and do freak out in crowds. But I am lucky that I can differentiate between being in a crowd where people are pressing in on me (yuck) and being in an area where there are lots of people but I can maintain a fair sphere of my own personal space. No judgement on anyone who needs to get out of a place because the people are too much, though--I get it, even if what gets to me is a little different.
I had to stop going to a local anime con because it got too big and it was just an utterly horrific mass of bodies, and anything fun about it ceased utterly for me. I had an awful experience getting mobbed by (lol) a group of religious peace/eco-activists at the 2017 Climate Change March, and literally screamed and freaked out and just barely managed to contain myself that I did not actually hit someone ("Quaker enters mad frenzy, slays hippies at eco-march; 'I was trying to solve overpopulation,' she said."). The situation that triggered it was bizarre and unlikely to precisely repeat itself, yet I haven't been able to convince myself to go to any sort of social justice march since.
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DeathQuaker, when I lived in Berkeley, the "Fighting Amish Electrician" had the service contract for my apartment building.
Which is the first thing that came to mind when I read your last paragraph.
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I am much the same. I live in a (small) city and love it. But I do not live downtown (though in a well-visited area), in fairness. But in general, the city is not the kind of place where you're...Oddly enough, in spite of being an introvert with sensory sensitivities, I actually love cities. I loved New York and Paris. And Baltimore, but not DC. London was okay. Chicago is a favorite place to visit. Sure, I need the noise cancelling headphones at times, but that’s true here too. And the ability to be invisible in a crowd is quite lovely. Also I’m an architecture nerd, so I may be too distracted by my special interest to even remember there are people around. :PTotally. It took me until the third and final day of our first visit to even stop hating New York, and a second visit to actually love it. Ditto for Paris. And after 22 years of living in the Bay Area, I never managed to love SF. More of a grudging occasional fondness.Some of us really really hate crowds of people. The idea of trying to live in a place like that makes my skin crawl just thinking about.where is the eye rolling emoji when you need it?I finally had an epiphany about big tourist cities.
Just like San Francisco, after just a couple of days in London, Edinburgh, or Paris, I’m ready to flee town. And I finally realized it’s the crowds, the noise, and the pollution. Here in Paris the city is beautiful, the people are (finally) welcoming... but the constant need to dodge other people, the inhalation of second-hand smoke, vaping, and diesel fumes, and the neverending battle to actually get anywhere just wears me down quickly.
If Paris were 20 degrees cooler and empty, I could spend a month here poking around. With the crowds, I’d practically rather go hungry than go out again.
But we have a boat tour on the Seine, and it will be beautiful, and so out I will go.
an anime convention? In your area? IMPOSSIBLE!
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DQ, you make an excellent point about the difference between a busy, crowded place and a Crowd. The latter does indeed cause meltdowns. That situation at the March you described sounds horrifying. *shudder*
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My friend Sid was the victim of ID theft. Now he's just S.
Now your just his fren.
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A guy asked me if I could round up his sheep. I asked him how many he had, and he said "26". So I said "Okay. 30."
Ah math jokes..... beware....
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Sally the camel had 64 humps. Sally was a mutant freak monstrosity from the gamma quadrant.
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Do other forums break as often as these? I don't frequent any others enough to notice.
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Wait...you mean there are other forums out there? Why hasn't anyone ever told me?!
Human empathy for others is my best guess.
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Nice Migrate. Bringing it back home.
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Today’s the first of our two “fun” travel days. We have train reservations from Paris to Brussels (first class, no less), but for reasons we don’t understand we couldn’t make the Brussels -> Amsterdam reservations. GothBard even called and they said, “It’s a commuter train. Just hop on when you get there.”
Yeaaaaaah... I’m accustomed to the U.S. train system, where showing up without a ticket is a guarantee of failure. Ah, well, we’ll sleep somewhere tonight...
EDIT: On further investigation, there’s an hourly train. We’ll be fine.
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Do other forums break as often as these? I don't frequent any others enough to notice.
Not nearly. But most of them use software sold and/or maintained by other companies while Paizo does all their stuff in house.
Just found out on FB that one of my best friends from college just lost his wife this morning.
Root canal infection that went septic. She was in the ICU and they were trying to get her stabilized for surgery.
Steph and Rog were expecting their first grandchild this fall, and they still have two kids in high school.
They married the week before we graduated, and for 23 years, she's been his world.
I’m so sorry. Peace and prayers for her family.
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an anime convention? In your area? IMPOSSIBLE!
Sadly (or fortunately, depending on your POV), Otakon has moved from the Balt CC down to National Harbor, which I find a pain to get to. (There is basically no other option but to drive, and I have a Rule about not ever driving to DC if I can help it. Plus the last time I went to National Harbor, I got a $100 speeding ticket. I was coming off the highway onto the downhill merge ramp and had not decelerated quickly enough, so was literally 2 miles an hour above what they considered acceptable.)
But y'all come for Cap'n Crunch French Toast anytime.
Sitting in an airport, ultimately heading to suburban DC...
I mean, "Yay! I'm being paid for this!" Ok, that's going to be the highlight of this week.
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Be the unicorn.
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I can see into the gift shop from my waiting area. There's a t-shirt for Sully's Pub, which is a noted bar in downtown Peoria.
Slight problem.
Sully's has been closed for about 6 years.
Why can I not access the Recruitment forum??! *gripegrumblecuss*
an anime convention? In your area? IMPOSSIBLE!
Sadly (or fortunately, depending on your POV), Otakon has moved from the Balt CC down to National Harbor, which I find a pain to get to. (There is basically no other option but to drive, and I have a Rule about not ever driving to DC if I can help it. Plus the last time I went to National Harbor, I got a $100 speeding ticket. I was coming off the highway onto the downhill merge ramp and had not decelerated quickly enough, so was literally 2 miles an hour above what they considered acceptable.)
But y'all come for Cap'n Crunch French Toast anytime.
for the pleasure of your company I would eat product 19 french toast.
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Safe in Amsterdam!
And it’s beautiful!
And we didn’t waste money on our First Class Eurail tickets!
They were only around 20% more than regular tickets, and are useless on prebooked
trains. But on commuter trains, you just get to hop onto the *one* First Class car with about 10 other people, while the rest of the train is packed to the gills.
If I commuted, I’d 100% pay 20% extra for that. But I bet for an annual pass it’s a LOT more than 20%.
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Hey, this is my 36,000th post!
Isn't that f$~%ing smurfy!