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*Gets dressed*


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Kjeldorn wrote:

Err...

Hmmm....

*Taps index fingers together*

So, there is this thread which rhymes somthing close to *Wow touch adversity biz lynn back door flames*

They have been talking about mediveal history, so I'm chomping at the bit to provide a bit of context, straighten out a few missconceptions and generally provide some context to the subject.

Then I read on...
and no. There's no way I can even attempt to give anykind of historical context to this, without getting chased out of the thread.

Makes me a little sad, cause I love talking about this stuff, but it does get into political/social dangerzones, that these boards have been burned by before.

It just that this is interest stuff! But I afraid that discussing it in detail, without the topic being reduced to mudslinging isn't really something the boards are equipped for.

I don't know, I'm rambling...

Edit: Yea, moderators just went through it and removed some of the parts pertaining to medieval history...Not gonna touch it then.

Wise man. It simply is not worth it. Especially here.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say the only place less capable of handling that kind of discussion with the proper manner and emotional reaction would be Tumblr.


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Sharoth wrote:
John, I have a question for you. I (eventually) need to learn the basics on Linux. I don't want to partition my current hard drive right now. I do know that it is possible to boot off a thumb drive. I was wondering if you know any good tutorials on that and Linux in general. Thanks in advance.

Try this, this, this, and this. There's many more. Do a Google Search for "Free on-line Linux Tutorials."


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John Napier 698 wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
John, I have a question for you. I (eventually) need to learn the basics on Linux. I don't want to partition my current hard drive right now. I do know that it is possible to boot off a thumb drive. I was wondering if you know any good tutorials on that and Linux in general. Thanks in advance.
Try this, this, this, and this. There's many more. Do a Google Search for "Free on-line Linux Tutorials."

Thanks!


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Tacticslion wrote:

I have to list a bunch of party games kids can play without getting hurt or intoxicated or otherwise damaged, and also can be played without making a mess (so food games are out). I've got 15 minutes. So far, Simon Says and Dodge ball (and I'm iffy on the latter); freeze tag remains possible, but the space is small and the mass chaos of tag is right out.

Edit: I don't even know.

'Sleeping Lions' is your friend, especially if you want five or ten minutes peace & quiet.


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captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Terrinam wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
I didn't answer to Terrinam's question because I wasn't sure if he was a political thread poster who would post political stuff and get this thread locked. Some people were talking overnight about some people who posted political stuff on obama.
I assumed this was a pure social topic. As in, don't post politics period. I've been looking for one I would feel comfortable talking in.

Welcome!

And since Freehold and Tac are grossly remiss in their duties (*ahem*), and trusting Captain Yesterday to describe rules is just an invitation to chaos unimaginable, here we go:

(1) Calling this sea of random thoughts "pure" anything indicates an optimism I find delightful.
(2) No politics.
(3) No sports.
(4) Posting at the top of a page renders you naked.
(5) I'm old.

OK. Maybe #5 isn't a rule, but still...

Rules addendum: No one really understands European politics (or, as it's commonly referred to in Europe "Futball") or sports ("Flibberdegibit") so as long as you're not too obvious you can usually get away with it.

Indeed. Should you wish to discuss Bingley Titan's shocking performance in this year's Poundworld League Murglethigh final against Athletico Smithybridge (what did Singh think he was doing? I mean, really?), or rant at length about the creeping neo-Progressivism in the most recent pronouncements by Mrs. Glynn of the Plantagenet Campaign Group, this is the place to do so. The Americans won't have a clue! Ha! Ha! Ha!


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Gur. Futboll eez gud. Go <insert local professional sports franchise here>!


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Limeylongears wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Terrinam wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
I didn't answer to Terrinam's question because I wasn't sure if he was a political thread poster who would post political stuff and get this thread locked. Some people were talking overnight about some people who posted political stuff on obama.
I assumed this was a pure social topic. As in, don't post politics period. I've been looking for one I would feel comfortable talking in.

Welcome!

And since Freehold and Tac are grossly remiss in their duties (*ahem*), and trusting Captain Yesterday to describe rules is just an invitation to chaos unimaginable, here we go:

(1) Calling this sea of random thoughts "pure" anything indicates an optimism I find delightful.
(2) No politics.
(3) No sports.
(4) Posting at the top of a page renders you naked.
(5) I'm old.

OK. Maybe #5 isn't a rule, but still...

Rules addendum: No one really understands European politics (or, as it's commonly referred to in Europe "Futball") or sports ("Flibberdegibit") so as long as you're not too obvious you can usually get away with it.
Indeed. Should you wish to discuss Bingley Titan's shocking performance in this year's Poundworld League Murglethigh final against Athletico Smithybridge (what did Singh think he was doing? I mean, really?), or rant at length about the creeping neo-Progressivism in the most recent pronouncements by Mrs. Glynn of the Plantagenet Campaign Group, this is the place to do so. The Americans won't have a clue! Ha! Ha! Ha!

...are you high?

Shadow Lodge

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You have to ASK?

Dark Archive

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Limeylongears wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Terrinam wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
I didn't answer to Terrinam's question because I wasn't sure if he was a political thread poster who would post political stuff and get this thread locked. Some people were talking overnight about some people who posted political stuff on obama.
I assumed this was a pure social topic. As in, don't post politics period. I've been looking for one I would feel comfortable talking in.

Welcome!

And since Freehold and Tac are grossly remiss in their duties (*ahem*), and trusting Captain Yesterday to describe rules is just an invitation to chaos unimaginable, here we go:

(1) Calling this sea of random thoughts "pure" anything indicates an optimism I find delightful.
(2) No politics.
(3) No sports.
(4) Posting at the top of a page renders you naked.
(5) I'm old.

OK. Maybe #5 isn't a rule, but still...

Rules addendum: No one really understands European politics (or, as it's commonly referred to in Europe "Futball") or sports ("Flibberdegibit") so as long as you're not too obvious you can usually get away with it.
Indeed. Should you wish to discuss Bingley Titan's shocking performance in this year's Poundworld League Murglethigh final against Athletico Smithybridge (what did Singh think he was doing? I mean, really?), or rant at length about the creeping neo-Progressivism in the most recent pronouncements by Mrs. Glynn of the Plantagenet Campaign Group, this is the place to do so. The Americans won't have a clue! Ha! Ha! Ha!

The sad thing is the least realistic part of that is the idea of poundworld sponsoring anything


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Limeylongears wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Terrinam wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
I didn't answer to Terrinam's question because I wasn't sure if he was a political thread poster who would post political stuff and get this thread locked. Some people were talking overnight about some people who posted political stuff on obama.
I assumed this was a pure social topic. As in, don't post politics period. I've been looking for one I would feel comfortable talking in.

Welcome!

And since Freehold and Tac are grossly remiss in their duties (*ahem*), and trusting Captain Yesterday to describe rules is just an invitation to chaos unimaginable, here we go:

(1) Calling this sea of random thoughts "pure" anything indicates an optimism I find delightful.
(2) No politics.
(3) No sports.
(4) Posting at the top of a page renders you naked.
(5) I'm old.

OK. Maybe #5 isn't a rule, but still...

Rules addendum: No one really understands European politics (or, as it's commonly referred to in Europe "Futball") or sports ("Flibberdegibit") so as long as you're not too obvious you can usually get away with it.
Indeed. Should you wish to discuss Bingley Titan's shocking performance in this year's Poundworld League Murglethigh final against Athletico Smithybridge (what did Singh think he was doing? I mean, really?), or rant at length about the creeping neo-Progressivism in the most recent pronouncements by Mrs. Glynn of the Plantagenet Campaign Group, this is the place to do so. The Americans won't have a clue! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Plantagenet's?! Bah!! Capetian is where its at!

Although, I have to support the locals too...So go Estrid's!

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So Wesley Snipes, Sean Astin, Jason Bulmahn, and Lary Elmore walk into a Kickstarter...

Grand Lodge

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I still don't know how much I believe that.


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Just a Mort wrote:
I have some punster in me =)

*bites his tongue*


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doctor_wu wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
Terrinam wrote:

Yep. I had accidentally hidden it.

Okay, no more phone posting before I accidentally delete my account or something.

And this is the reason as to why I prefer either my laptop, or my PC at home. My fingers are generally too large for what passes for a keyboard on phones. And the larger screen is a definite plus.
And better keyboard with the ability for tactile feedback.

You don't have a datajack yet?


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One more day before break. I can make it.


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Scintillae wrote:
One more day before break. I can make it.

yes you can.

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Nobody's Home wrote:


I know chewing gum is illegal in Singapore. It's a very odd law, but if I were to travel to Singapore, I wouldn't chew gum.

So it's a combination of, "This rule is alien to me," and, "I cannot not do it."...

Actually it's importing of gum that's illegal. However since the definition of import is "to bring or cause to be brought into Singapore by land, water or air from any place which is outside Singapore [...]" any goods, even if they are not for purposes of trade."

So if you didn't bring your gum in, you'd get no gum to chew.

"No gum is allowed to be bought or sold inside Singapore and there is a $700 fine for spitting out gum on the streets."

Reality? Do it discreetly, no one cares. I have a bottle in the office BTW, that I chew if I'm feeling sleepy. Of course I dispose of it in the dustbin.

Fun Fact: It was Goh Chok Tong and not Lee Kwan Yew who imposed the ban after vandals had begun sticking chewing gum on the door sensors of MRT trains, preventing doors from functioning properly and causing disruption to train services.

Because some people just can't behave.


Freehold DM wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Terrinam wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
I didn't answer to Terrinam's question because I wasn't sure if he was a political thread poster who would post political stuff and get this thread locked. Some people were talking overnight about some people who posted political stuff on obama.
I assumed this was a pure social topic. As in, don't post politics period. I've been looking for one I would feel comfortable talking in.

Welcome!

And since Freehold and Tac are grossly remiss in their duties (*ahem*), and trusting Captain Yesterday to describe rules is just an invitation to chaos unimaginable, here we go:

(1) Calling this sea of random thoughts "pure" anything indicates an optimism I find delightful.
(2) No politics.
(3) No sports.
(4) Posting at the top of a page renders you naked.
(5) I'm old.

OK. Maybe #5 isn't a rule, but still...

Rules addendum: No one really understands European politics (or, as it's commonly referred to in Europe "Futball") or sports ("Flibberdegibit") so as long as you're not too obvious you can usually get away with it.
Indeed. Should you wish to discuss Bingley Titan's shocking performance in this year's Poundworld League Murglethigh final against Athletico Smithybridge (what did Singh think he was doing? I mean, really?), or rant at length about the creeping neo-Progressivism in the most recent pronouncements by Mrs. Glynn of the Plantagenet Campaign Group, this is the place to do so. The Americans won't have a clue! Ha! Ha! Ha!
...are you high?

I wish I was. It'd be one way to numb the pain of Bingley's relegation to the Heron Foods Conference, and the fact that they've had to sell Aziz to (spit) Mirfield. What a disgraceful end to the season.


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Why NobodysWife Does Not Let NobodysHome Plan Christmas:

NobodysWife: I was thinking of having Shiro and Hi over for Christmas dinner. It's just one of those days that people shouldn't have to be alone unless they want to be!
NobodysHome: Nope. Agreed.
We can try to go to a restaurant! Haahahahahahahaha!
OoooH! Chinese food!
I want to roast a turkey, find some basset hounds to feed it to, dump it on the floor for them, and then go out for Chinese food!
NobodysWife: Bad NobodysHome!


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Just a Mort wrote:
Nobody's Home wrote:


I know chewing gum is illegal in Singapore. It's a very odd law, but if I were to travel to Singapore, I wouldn't chew gum.

So it's a combination of, "This rule is alien to me," and, "I cannot not do it."...

Actually it's importing of gum that's illegal. However since the definition of import is "to bring or cause to be brought into Singapore by land, water or air from any place which is outside Singapore [...]" any goods, even if they are not for purposes of trade."

So if you didn't bring your gum in, you'd get no gum to chew.

"No gum is allowed to be bought or sold inside Singapore and there is a $700 fine for spitting out gum on the streets."

Reality? Do it discreetly, no one cares. I have a bottle in the office BTW, that I chew if I'm feeling sleepy. Of course I dispose of it in the dustbin.

Fun Fact: It was Goh Chok Tong and not Lee Kwan Yew who imposed the ban after vandals had begun sticking chewing gum on the door sensors of MRT trains, preventing doors from functioning properly and causing disruption to train services.

Because some people just can't behave.

Are you in Singapore? Why did I think you were in South Africa?


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Rysky wrote:
So Wesley Snipes, Sean Astin, Jason Bulmahn, and Lary Elmore walk into a Kickstarter...

Initial Reaction: Pff, this sounds farfeched!

Current reaction: Please, please, please be true! and go all in with a maximum of silly/stupid/terrible/pulpy/immature/violent concepts!

Like a Book cover featureing a beefy Space-Conan backhanding a scantily clad Lashunta princess over the edge of a cliff, while grinding the head of a Skittermander into the ground, with the heel of his metal boots (extra points if there's added blood + brains grushing out of the skull).

A tagline say something like: " In the Future, there is only War! (already taken) only Chaos! (too damn generic!) Cookies! (Dammit Dave!) only Grim-ness!

And every single NPC has a pair of mirrored sunglasses included in their equipment (PC's, of cause, recieve them as part of their starting equipment).


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NobodysHome wrote:

Why NobodysWife Does Not Let NobodysHome Plan Christmas:

NobodysWife: I was thinking of having Shiro and Hi over for Christmas dinner. It's just one of those days that people shouldn't have to be alone unless they want to be!
NobodysHome: Nope. Agreed.
We can try to go to a restaurant! Haahahahahahahaha!
OoooH! Chinese food!
I want to roast a turkey, find some basset hounds to feed it to, dump it on the floor for them, and then go out for Chinese food!
NobodysWife: Bad NobodysHome!

Sounds like my mom asking my dad or me about the Thanksgiving menu.

One day, we will get Imo's for Thanksgiving...


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Rysky wrote:
So Wesley Snipes, Sean Astin, Jason Bulmahn, and Lary Elmore walk into a Kickstarter...

Stranger Things spoilers

Spoiler:
Because Astin's last venture into sci-fi ended so well for him.


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Kjeldorn wrote:

Current reaction: Please, please, please be true! and go all in with a maximum of silly/stupid/terrible/pulpy/immature/violent concepts!

Like a Book cover featureing a beefy Space-Conan backhanding a scantily clad Lashunta princess over the edge of a cliff, while grinding the head of a Skittermander into the ground, with the heel of his metal boots (extra points if there's added blood + brains grushing out of the skull).

A tagline say something like: " In the Future, there is only War! (already taken) only Chaos! (too damn generic!) Cookies! (Dammit Dave!) only Grim-ness!

And every single NPC has a pair of mirrored sunglasses included in their equipment (PC's, of cause, recieve them as part of their starting equipment).

Duke Hellballem.

The Exchange

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Yes, I am a Singaporean. If you come to Singapore, I can show you around. Maybe it's because I speak and write good English. I've had some Caucasians marveling at my purrfect command of English.

Again no one expects a talking cat, do they?


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Other (in)Famous NobodysHome Moments:

NobodysWife: No, you cannot use, "Buggered by midgets"!
NobodysHome: Why not? It's a blank card! And I got to use it in the Cards Against Humanity game!
NobodysWife: Because this is Apples to Apples for Kids!

Disclaimer: Yes, I was fooling around. But the look on NobodysWife's face...


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Just a Mort wrote:

Yes, I am a Singaporean. If you come to Singapore, I can show you around. Maybe it's because I speak and write good English. I've had some Caucasians marveling at my purrfect command of English.

Again no one expects a talking cat, do they?

Awesome. Shiro lived in Singapore for a year or two and loved it! All my Singapore stories come from him. And he still talks about the food, 25-30 years later!

The Exchange

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Singapore is a fine city!

The Exchange

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Really but if you didn't tell me what kind of places you're interested in, it'd probably be me bringing you to the henderson wave, gardens by the bay and other nature related activities.

Like this


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NobodysHome wrote:

Why NobodysWife Does Not Let NobodysHome Plan Christmas:

NobodysWife: I was thinking of having Shiro and Hi over for Christmas dinner. It's just one of those days that people shouldn't have to be alone unless they want to be!
NobodysHome: Nope. Agreed.
We can try to go to a restaurant! Haahahahahahahaha!
OoooH! Chinese food!
I want to roast a turkey, find some basset hounds to feed it to, dump it on the floor for them, and then go out for Chinese food!
NobodysWife: Bad NobodysHome!

chinese food and movies is a christmas tradition...

The Exchange

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Hey Nobody's Home? Were you looking for a Chinese cook? Cos you're staring at one right now...

Nah, my Mom is better then I am at that kind of thing since I've switched to western style cooking(for ease of preparation) , but I still could do Chinese food if I wanted to...

The Exchange

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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

Achievement unlocked: Let Tequilia Sunrise spectate me playing HS! =D

And what a couple of matches they were! WTH was that 6-damage board clear plus 8-to-the-face spell?! Maybe it was a Kazakus spell.

It was a Kazakus spell. I don't favor Kazakus decks since you can only have one of each card.

Lich king you need to build a deck to deal with him, and even with the right deck, it's a lot of RNG. It took me 3 hours in RL.

I prefer to see what you do with other players as opposed to AI. My BFs decks are combo all over the place. Too complicated for my simple brain that generally can keep one idea in mind. "SMAAASH FACE!"

Also, out tonight watching The Last Jedi.


Taliesan wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

I have to list a bunch of party games kids can play without getting hurt or intoxicated or otherwise damaged, and also can be played without making a mess (so food games are out). I've got 15 minutes. So far, Simon Says and Dodge ball (and I'm iffy on the latter); freeze tag remains possible, but the space is small and the mass chaos of tag is right out.

Edit: I don't even know.

Some variant on port and starboard? Using whatever terms are most appropriate for the area? Although it can still get rather hectic http://www.gameskidsplay.net/games/mental_games/ship_captain.htm Doesn't need to have all the other stuff other than the 4 directions to make a workable game

I ended up turning in a list and beheld as no one knew how to run the games. I helped, but there was enough chaos that stepping in to run things would not have helped. It was hilarious. And fun!


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New toy created in the imagination of a guest: Mash'em Hatch'ems.

Apparently squishy eggs that hatch...


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A manager and I are walking past power wheels when this mother asks "Can you please help us?" "of course, what do you need?" "Can you get my son out of your car?" we both look over to see this little kid glaring at us with his arms crossed.

The Exchange

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All I can say is this


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New magic item idea to use in-game: Goblin Flashy Child Toy.

It is a stick that explodes like a bomb. It does 15d6 damage in a thirty-foot circle, centered on the stick. Three guesses what goblins use it for.


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Just a Mort wrote:

Really but if you didn't tell me what kind of places you're interested in, it'd probably be me bringing you to the henderson wave, gardens by the bay and other nature related activities.

Like this

That stuff looks awesome!

As for cooking, I've been cooking Chinese for longer than you've been alive (started with Joyce Chen, she of the charming, "Well, this dish would serve 5-6 Chinese, or 2-3 Americans, and moved on to my own creations thereafter), but I am never one to prevent someone else from cooking for me!

Game on!


Just a Mort wrote:
All I can say is this

That movie is far, far better than I ever thought it would be.

I was surprised.

The Exchange

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Nobody's Home- well after TL mentioned fried cream cheese wontons...I shudder to think how much more Americans would mangle Chinese food ;)

Hey you don't see me adding chilli sauce to tomato based spaghetti sauce, right?

Well, I honestly did it once, but the tomato sauce bottle and chilli sauce bottle looked alike and I wasn't paying sufficient attention...

It was an honest mistake, I swear!


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Seven Years


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I like our mangled Chinese food...


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Sharoth wrote:
Seven Years

That one made both me and NobodysWife cry.


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Just a Mort wrote:

Nobody's Home- well after TL mentioned fried cream cheese wontons...I shudder to think how much more Americans would mangle Chinese food ;)

Hey you don't see me adding chilli sauce to tomato based spaghetti sauce, right?

Well, I honestly did it once, but the tomato sauce bottle and chilli sauce bottle looked alike and I wasn't paying sufficient attention...

It was an honest mistake, I swear!

LOL. We have a HUGE Chinese population in the Bay Area, so any restaurant that serves "Americanized" Chinese food goes out of business pretty quickly.

Our favorite place down the street has an "American" menu and a "Chinese" menu. The owner forever endeared himself to me when he took one look at me and said, "No, no! You order from this menu!" and handed me the Chinese one...

EDIT: But yes, we have gone to a Chinese restaurant in Idaho.
Never, NEVER again...


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But yeah, I've learned not to try to mix American and Chinese ingredients. There are very few cases where it works, and very many cases where the result is... awful.

Not Chinese, but I was out of mirin and tried to make teriyaki sauce using sugar instead.
We ended up throwing it out.


Alright, fam: QQ: what is a powerful female villain in an iconic Video Game Franchise?

For reference, I'm comparing this to, say, Bowser and Ganon.

End-boss-type stuff.

Shovel Knight:
Shield Knight doesn't count, as she was possessed (or something) by the Enchantress-persona or whatever; also, anyone know how this was implied to be "the Dark Queen" from Battle Toads?

Twilight Princess:
Zelda doesn't count, because that was still Ganon. Midna was a hero.

Link Between Worlds:
Hilda doesn't count, either, as she's substantially weaker, though she's on the edge, at least.

Metroid:
Samus is also a hero. Mother Brain is... just a brain. That's all.

Also, tryyyyyying to get a variety of franchises, though if there's a really good one, maybe that.

I do have one candidate that I found, recently: the Dark Queen (from the Battle Toads franchise); if anyone has solid information on her, other than the Wikipedia article, that'd be cool. Still, I'm looking for others, and preferably something at least quasi-family-friendly (akin to Ganon and Bowser).

(Sonic has Dr. Robotnic, and Final Fantasy has all sorts*, though none are recurring, obviously.)

* FF7, FF8, FFT:
About the only FF I can recall having a definitively female "end boss" is FF8, but she's kind of lame.

FF7 has Sephiroth as the big bad, even if his "mother" was super-important.

FFT's end boss is at least somewhat questionable, considering what happens to "her," what "she" becomes, and how things suss themselves out. Similarly, it's unclear if "she" was originally a male character, and thus really doesn't care about sex (though in FF12, maybe she looks consistently feminine?).


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Just a Mort wrote:
Nobody's Home- well after TL mentioned fried cream cheese wontons...I shudder to think how much more Americans would mangle Chinese food ;)

The funny part is that these are made by people from China. They are immigrants, and most of them can't speak English at all.

(And they're really, really good.)

Just a Mort wrote:
Hey you don't see me adding chilli sauce to tomato based spaghetti sauce, right?

... doesn't sound that bad, actually.

Just a Mort wrote:

Well, I honestly did it once, but the tomato sauce bottle and chilli sauce bottle looked alike and I wasn't paying sufficient attention...

It was an honest mistake, I swear!

... SUSPICIOUS!

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My family liked the Italianized Chinese food in Italy. There’s no accounting for bad taste….I think they couldn’t get used to Italian food that anything marginally Chinese was an improvement. Me? I sat in the room and ate canned tuna. I told them, count me out, I’m not spoiling my Italian vacation by eating Italianized Chinese food. And also I was sick with a sore throat that day so wasn’t too keen on going out.

There was once that I sprinkled chilli powder on top of my spaghetti instead of Oregano. I suppose I didn’t pay attention to the spice bottle either…and I should have given it a good sniff. Though Aglio Olio involves chilli flakes on your spaghetti.

BTW – don’t take me TOO seriously. I’m the kind of person who will start yelling blasphemy, and heresy, when food doesn’t come up to what I feel it should be.

Call me a purist.


I'd eat a can of tuna! That stuff is delicious!

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