Deep 6 FaWtL

[Freehold DM]

Dalindra wrote:

The one I was GMing stopped at Victorian Age, but it was intended to last until modern nights.

I am waiting for Demon 20th Anniversary. I must be one of that strange people who loved the game!

one of my best friends is a huge fan but the book went into dark territory for him, ditto with wraith, which is his all time favorite.

[Freehold DM]

Of course im naked. Nudity is an all time favorite.

[Kileanna]

Vidmaster7 wrote:

I've messaged them about that before and I wouldn't expect it any time soon.I saw W20 and C20 but they don't have anything about demon or hunter. well at least not OldWOD they are redoing the new vampire and all of those that came after it. I was never a big fan of the NWOD stuff myself. On the plus side they are redoing the trinity continuum, scion, and exalted.

I never was a fan of it either.

It was like they wanted to do it more Twilight-like.

[Vidmaster7]

Never huge on Wraith but I do Like changling it can be a lot of fun. I always wanted to try Demon I heard they were stupid powerful.

[Freehold DM]

Kileanna wrote:

Vidmaster7 wrote:

I've messaged them about that before and I wouldn't expect it any time soon.I saw W20 and C20 but they don't have anything about demon or hunter. well at least not OldWOD they are redoing the new vampire and all of those that came after it. I was never a big fan of the NWOD stuff myself. On the plus side they are redoing the trinity continuum, scion, and exalted.

I never was a fan of it either.

It was like they wanted to do it more Twilight-like.

I hated all of nwod except for changling. It was truly amazing if difficult to read in some parts, I loves the different takes on fey(even the grays) and the different types of changlings. I own everything for it.

[Dalindra]

@Vidmaster: Not even close to Mages.

The point is that Demons are almost immune to illusions and have full immunity to mind control (although not emotion-based control). So no Dominate, Obfuscate, Mind Sphere, etc against them. That pissed a lot of people.

[Freehold DM]

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Never huge on Wraith but I do Like changling it can be a lot of fun. I always wanted to try Demon I heard they were stupid powerful.

they are. But it is an amazing idea, if too judeo Christian for most.

[Kjeldorn]

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Really just need to run a vamp game that starts in dark ages and ends in modern times. Wanna play a toreador who has to meet every famous writer, musician, and actor... and get their auto graph.

Did that, played a dark ages games that stretched from 1130-1230 and picked up again sporadically in the 70s and 80s, unfortunately we couldn't keep it going.

Turned into a fun little alternative history game where we changed history for Scandinavia and the Baltic.

(Venture 4 un-life, by the way ^^)

Edit: Oh, and I preferred the old WoD, then NWoD, we did however adapt somethings from the NWoD, and mashed them together with the old stuff.

My biggest regret is not getting to play more exalted games (If I remember correctly I have played 2...), my players didn't really get into that setting. :(

[Cap'n Yesterday's Spring Fever]

72 degrees and mostly sunny today!

Just hook it to my vein!!!!

[Kileanna]

Kjeldorn wrote:

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Really just need to run a vamp game that starts in dark ages and ends in modern times. Wanna play a toreador who has to meet every famous writer, musician, and actor... and get their auto graph.

Did that, played a dark ages games that stretched from 1130-1230 and picked up again sporadically in the 70s and 80s, unfortunately we couldn't keep it going.

Turned into a fun little alternative history game where we changed history for Scandinavia and the Baltic.

(Venture 4 life, by the way ^^)

Edit: Oh, and I preferred the old WoD, then NWoD, we did however adapt somethings from the NWoD, and mashed them together with the old stuff.

My biggest regret is not getting to play more exalted games (If I remember correctly I have played 2...), my players didn't really get into that setting. :(

We started playing at mid age. My character was a nun with no faith embraced by the Setites who then discovered her new faith and wanted to corrupt the Catholic Church. We stopped playing just when action was going to go to Egypt. I don't know what happened to my character, but according to how is the Catholic Church these days she might have attained some mild success xD

I've always loved clan Malkavian (played in a non goofy way) and Tzimisce, but my most long unlived character was a Nagaraja... Dal chose the clan for me and he apparently thought that being a flesh eating necromancer fit my character (it did).

[Freehold DM]

Kileanna wrote:

Kjeldorn wrote:

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Really just need to run a vamp game that starts in dark ages and ends in modern times. Wanna play a toreador who has to meet every famous writer, musician, and actor... and get their auto graph.

Did that, played a dark ages games that stretched from 1130-1230 and picked up again sporadically in the 70s and 80s, unfortunately we couldn't keep it going.

Turned into a fun little alternative history game where we changed history for Scandinavia and the Baltic.

(Venture 4 life, by the way ^^)

Edit: Oh, and I preferred the old WoD, then NWoD, we did however adapt somethings from the NWoD, and mashed them together with the old stuff.

My biggest regret is not getting to play more exalted games (If I remember correctly I have played 2...), my players didn't really get into that setting. :(

We started playing at mid age. My character was a nun with no faith embraced by the Setites who then discovered her new faith and wanted to corrupt the Catholic Church. We stopped playing just when action was going to go to Egypt. I don't know what happened to my character, but according to how is the Catholic Church these days she might have attained some mild success xD

I've always loved clan Malkavian (played in a non goofy way) and Tzimisce, but my most long unlived character was a Nagaraja... Dal chose the clan for me and he apparently thought that being a flesh eating necromancer fit my character (it did).

LOVE THE NAGARAJA, but they are soooo fetish it's hard to find a player who takes them seriously.

[Kileanna]

I did. Except for the fact that she was jinxed and also took the worse decissions ever. So she always ended screwed. She was such a serious and uptight person that Dal loved to make her suffer xD
Or maybe he didn't and I just kept screwing things all the time. Mostly that.

She kept being a Nagaraja secret so they thought she was some kind of Tzimisce necromancer or maybe a Pander (Sabbat story).

[Freehold DM]

Kileanna wrote:

I did. Except for the fact that she was jinxed and also took the worse decissions ever. So she always ended screwed. She was such a serious and uptight person that Dal loved to make her suffer xD

Or maybe he didn't and I just kept screwing things all the time. Mostly that.

She kept being a Nagaraja secret so they thought she was some kind of Tzimisce necromancer or maybe a Pander (Sabbat story).

could they make ghouls?

I don't remember...

[Kileanna]

If you want to see what I'm talking about when I say that she usually screwed up just go to my profile and write "Las Vegas" in the search engine to look my posts. That was my character's best worst moment.
She also ended enslaved by the demon whose plans she was attempting to foil and a few more hard to believe situations...

Edit: yes, they could. Aria had one. He developed a taste for eating raw meat. At least it wasn't flesh.

[lisamarlene]

Feeling grumpy and disappointed and sad and relieved and not sure what exactly.

After a year of unemployment (yes, twelve whole months), the husband was finally up for an asst. professor job at his own former graduate school down in the Santa Barbara area. It would have meant moving the whole family someplace I really, really did not want to go, but it would have meant the best income and job security he has *ever* had. He passed the first round of interviews with flying colors, and we were really hopeful. And then he got an email last night saying that he didn't get it.
But they *are* considering him for adjunct, which means (a) he would be able to travel down there on the train periodically and we wouldn't have to move, and (b) he could still keep the part-time job in Oakland that he finally got that starts *tomorrow*.

This has been a bad, bad year. Supporting a family on a teacher's salary *sucks*. And even though I didn't want to move, I had really wanted him to get this job. And now I have no idea how to feel.

[Rysky]

*offers hugs*

[captain yesterday]

It'll get better.

You just gotta keep finding the little positive things. :-)

Would it help if I paraded around in NobodysHome's birthday suit. I'm at least four inches taller, making it extra comical. :-)

[lisamarlene]

captain yesterday wrote:

It'll get better.

You just gotta keep finding the little positive things. :-)

Would it help if I paraded around in NobodysHome's birthday suit. I'm at least four inches taller, making it extra comical. :-)

Cap'n, *no* man from Wisconsin should ever make "parading around in other peoples' skin" comments if he wants to avoid Ed Gein references.

Although a parade of FawtL-ers, all wearing Nobody's goofy pants, sort of like the opening credits to the Bugs Bunny Show, now THAT would be freaking hilarious.

[Freehold DM]

I'm sorry lisamarlene.... That's quite a rock and hard place situation.

[Freehold DM]

lisamarlene wrote:

captain yesterday wrote:

It'll get better.

You just gotta keep finding the little positive things. :-)

Would it help if I paraded around in NobodysHome's birthday suit. I'm at least four inches taller, making it extra comical. :-)

Cap'n, *no* man from Wisconsin should ever make "parading around in other peoples' skin" comments if he wants to avoid Ed Gein references.

Although a parade of FawtL-ers, all wearing Nobody's goofy pants, sort of like the opening credits to the Bugs Bunny Show, now THAT would be freaking hilarious.

how goofy are said pants?

[Captain Yesterday Smurf]

lisamarlene wrote:

captain yesterday wrote:

It'll get better.

You just gotta keep finding the little positive things. :-)

Would it help if I paraded around in NobodysHome's birthday suit. I'm at least four inches taller, making it extra comical. :-)

Cap'n, *no* man from Wisconsin should ever make "parading around in other peoples' skin" comments if he wants to avoid Ed Gein references.

Although a parade of FawtL-ers, all wearing Nobody's goofy pants, sort of like the opening credits to the Bugs Bunny Show, now THAT would be freaking hilarious.

D'oh!

[John Napier 698]

Going to leave for work early. Today's the last day on my ID card ( I don't drive ), so I have to get it renewed. Before I go to work.

[NobodysHome]

lisamarlene wrote:

Feeling grumpy and disappointed and sad and relieved and not sure what exactly.

After a year of unemployment (yes, twelve whole months), the husband was finally up for an asst. professor job at his own former graduate school down in the Santa Barbara area. It would have meant moving the whole family someplace I really, really did not want to go, but it would have meant the best income and job security he has *ever* had. He passed the first round of interviews with flying colors, and we were really hopeful. And then he got an email last night saying that he didn't get it.
But they *are* considering him for adjunct, which means (a) he would be able to travel down there on the train periodically and we wouldn't have to move, and (b) he could still keep the part-time job in Oakland that he finally got that starts *tomorrow*.

This has been a bad, bad year. Supporting a family on a teacher's salary *sucks*. And even though I didn't want to move, I had really wanted him to get this job. And now I have no idea how to feel.

Yeah, I remember that pain. Back when I first faced the "real world", the metric was "200 applications leads to 4 interviews leads to 2 offers, neither of which are permanent."

And then you have to deal with the adjective deleted people who just have to tell you, "Oh, I've always been offered 100% of the jobs I've ever interviewed for. You just have to sell yourself!"

To which my response is, "Oh, yeah? Try academia (or global megacorporations)!"

A significant percentage of the jobs listed are there because, "We already know who we want to hire, but HR is making us post the job and interview people anyway."

NobodysHome's Story Time:

A good example of this was when one of our former co-workers decided to come back to our group. We knew him, we knew he was a good fit, and so my manager went through all the hoops to get a job requisition opened specifically for him. We would not have opened a requisition if he weren't interested in the job. HR didn't care. We had to interview at least half a dozen people to make sure he really was "the best fit". It was the most cynical bit of hiring I've ever seen -- we weren't allowed to tell the people that they had no chance, so we just had to go through the motions of interviewing them all, then tell them all, "Sorry, we already have our candidate."

Academia is even worse. In 13 years at global megacorp I've seen it done by our group once, and once by another group. In academia I saw it done every single year.

So getting interviewed does not equal getting hired, no matter what some people tell you about how great they are.

[captain yesterday]

Freehold DM wrote:

lisamarlene wrote:

captain yesterday wrote:

It'll get better.

You just gotta keep finding the little positive things. :-)

Would it help if I paraded around in NobodysHome's birthday suit. I'm at least four inches taller, making it extra comical. :-)

Cap'n, *no* man from Wisconsin should ever make "parading around in other peoples' skin" comments if he wants to avoid Ed Gein references.

Although a parade of FawtL-ers, all wearing Nobody's goofy pants, sort of like the opening credits to the Bugs Bunny Show, now THAT would be freaking hilarious.

how goofy are said pants?

That depends.

Are you MC Hammer or a Chef.

If you aren't, pretty goofy. If you are, can i get 1) Your autograph, and 2) A Mushroom Risotto.

You can probably pull it off. I'd probably get commandeered as a raft of some sort.

[NobodysHome]

Freehold DM wrote:

lisamarlene wrote:

captain yesterday wrote:

It'll get better.

You just gotta keep finding the little positive things. :-)

Would it help if I paraded around in NobodysHome's birthday suit. I'm at least four inches taller, making it extra comical. :-)

Cap'n, *no* man from Wisconsin should ever make "parading around in other peoples' skin" comments if he wants to avoid Ed Gein references.

Although a parade of FawtL-ers, all wearing Nobody's goofy pants, sort of like the opening credits to the Bugs Bunny Show, now THAT would be freaking hilarious.

how goofy are said pants?

For you, I recommend the Black Chili Peppers pattern.

[NobodysHome]

So of course Paizo goes down for 4 hours so no chance of editing my post, but I really didn't want to make it seem like I was personally attacking one of our own FaWtL members, who has said similar things on multiple occasions.

There's just a huge difference in my mind between, "Oh, really? You had an interview and didn't get the job? Well, *I* get every job I interview for, because I know how to market myself," and,
"Oh, I'm sorry you didn't get the job. I've had a great deal of success researching the company ahead of time, determining their needs, and positioning myself as a great candidate for fulfilling those needs. Have you tried that? If you haven't, PM me and I can give you some pointers."

In my personal opinion, one is self-aggrandizement at the cost of the person who just lost the job (not nice), and one is an offer to help.

It's a sore spot with me; the first time I ever heard the, "I've always been offered every job I've ever been interviewed for" statement was from the director who personally ran our department into the ground, got all of us laid off, and then insisted that our inability to find subsequent employment was entirely our fault.

So yeah, there may just be a teensy bit of bitterness involved there.

Just a skosh.

[Freehold DM]

NobodysHome wrote:

So of course Paizo goes down for 4 hours so no chance of editing my post, but I really didn't want to make it seem like I was personally attacking one of our own FaWtL members, who has said similar things on multiple occasions.

There's just a huge difference in my mind between, "Oh, really? You had an interview and didn't get the job? Well, *I* get every job I interview for, because I know how to market myself," and,
"Oh, I'm sorry you didn't get the job. I've had a great deal of success researching the company ahead of time, determining their needs, and positioning myself as a great candidate for fulfilling those needs. Have you tried that? If you haven't, PM me and I can give you some pointers."

In my personal opinion, one is self-aggrandizement at the cost of the person who just lost the job (not nice), and one is an offer to help.

It's a sore spot with me; the first time I ever heard the, "I've always been offered every job I've ever been interviewed for" statement was from the director who personally ran our department into the ground, got all of us laid off, and then insisted that our inability to find subsequent employment was entirely our fault.

So yeah, there may just be a teensy bit of bitterness involved there.

Just a skosh.

sounds like he needs a smack. A hard one.

[Sharoth]

Champagne Saber Time

[Freehold DM]

Sharoth wrote:

Champagne Saber Time

adds to smack list

[Limeylongears]

Sharoth wrote:

Champagne Saber Time

Don't open champagne bottles with a katana, or anything else, for that matter.

However, I do intend to try this at some point, though I don't expect it'll work as well with Guinness.

[Rosita the Riveter]

Let's see what's in the wine stash:

California:

2 chardonnays (one of which is supposedly rather meh, and the other is cheap s$~& I've held onto way too long)
1 zinfandel

France:

1 Bordeaux

Italy:

1 red blend
1 Chianti

Australia:

1 red blend
1 cabernet

Spain:

2 Rioja tempranillos
1 Rioja blanco
1 Rioja rosé

My last day with an employee discount is Saturday, so I wonder if I should stock up further?

[Rosita the Riveter]

Speaking of job interviews, I have one on Friday that I'm pretty confident about. It's retail, they just lost a ton of student employees to graduation, and I'm definately researching the company and tailoring my interview responses.

[John Napier 698]

Rosita the Riveter wrote:

Let's see what's in the wine stash:

California:

2 chardonnays (one of which is supposedly rather meh, and the other is cheap s*#@ I've held onto way too long)
1 zinfandel

France:

1 Bordeaux

Italy:

1 red blend
1 Chianti

Australia:

1 red blend
1 cabernet

Spain:

2 Rioja tempranillos
1 Rioja blanco
1 Rioja rosé

My last day with an employee discould is Saturday, so I wonder if I should stock up further?

The Answer is YES. Make your alcohol money stretch as far as you can. It only makes sense. If I worked at a bookstore, and got an employee discount, and was about to lose it, I'd most certainly get everything I want from that store on discount. But do not buy so mych that the rest of your budget suffers.

[John Napier 698]

Rosita the Riveter wrote:

Speaking of job interviews, I have one on Friday that I'm pretty confident about. It's retail, they just lost a ton of student employees to graduation, and I'm definately researching the company and tailoring my interview responses.

Good luck, Rosita. :)

[NobodysHome]

Maybe it's just my cynical nature from growing up in the 1980s, but every time I see one of my co-workers described as a "product evangelist", I want to see them tarred and feathered...

[lisamarlene]

John Napier 698 wrote:

Rosita the Riveter wrote:

Let's see what's in the wine stash:

California:

2 chardonnays (one of which is supposedly rather meh, and the other is cheap s*#@ I've held onto way too long)
1 zinfandel

France:

1 Bordeaux

Italy:

1 red blend
1 Chianti

Australia:

1 red blend
1 cabernet

Spain:

2 Rioja tempranillos
1 Rioja blanco
1 Rioja rosé

My last day with an employee discould is Saturday, so I wonder if I should stock up further?

The Answer is YES. Make your alcohol money stretch as far as you can. It only makes sense. If I worked at a bookstore, and got an employee discount, and was about to lose it, I'd most certainly get everything I want from that store on discount. But do not buy so mych that the rest of your budget suffers.

That can really backfire.

I worked for a small bookstore in college, and the owner was only too happy to let me choose as many books (at my employee discount) as I wanted in lieu of payment.
There were weeks I didn't get any paycheck at all.

[John Napier 698]

True. I should have thought to add "within reason", but I understood that as a given. Sorry. :)

[John Napier 698]

So, since I've arrived at work, I've generated 15 subsectors ( D20 Traveller ), moved them to my Google Drive space, shared and created links for each, and sent all of the links to Tom Kalfbus via a single PM. My, but I've been busy since 5 PM. :)

[Freehold DM]

John Napier 698 wrote:

Rosita the Riveter wrote:

Let's see what's in the wine stash:

California:

2 chardonnays (one of which is supposedly rather meh, and the other is cheap s*#@ I've held onto way too long)
1 zinfandel

France:

1 Bordeaux

Italy:

1 red blend
1 Chianti

Australia:

1 red blend
1 cabernet

Spain:

2 Rioja tempranillos
1 Rioja blanco
1 Rioja rosé

My last day with an employee discould is Saturday, so I wonder if I should stock up further?

The Answer is YES. Make your alcohol money stretch as far as you can. It only makes sense. If I worked at a bookstore, and got an employee discount, and was about to lose it, I'd most certainly get everything I want from that store on discount. But do not buy so mych that the rest of your budget suffers.

+1

[Freehold DM]

Cap'n Yesterday's Spring Fever wrote:

7 degrees and mostly snowy today!

Just hook it to my vein!!!!

fify

[captain yesterday]

Captain Yesterday's Guide to Spending The Majority Of Your Paycheck At Work, Guilt Free!

Step 1: Hardly work at all.

Step 2: Get paid less than half of what you're qualified for (as far as I know, none of my other colleagues at the toy store can shave an angry bear with a skid loader like me*)

*Hence my constant comparisons of me to Brad Pitt in Legends Of The Fall.

Please note: I've never actually tried shaving an angry bear with a skid loader, that's just what a boss said after a job with almost no space to drive. Every day for three months I had eight inches on any side to turn and I didn't hit ANYTHING. :-)

[John Napier 698]

Pure skill, Cap'n. Pure skill.

[captain yesterday]

How to give a music nerd a rage stroke.

"Have you noticed how similar Phantom Planet is to Radiohead, they're practically the same band!"

[Tequila Sunrise]

Tacticslion wrote:

WARNING: LINKING TO TVTROPES BELOW. CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK. THAT STUFF IS ADDICTIVE.

None of those thins are quite like what TS is talking about, though.

All of the non-TS examples rely on a trope called the "Masquerade" - there are specific mechanisms (of varying values and often fail at ever-increasing monitoring equipment) that prevent the preponderance of non-initiated individuals from noticing.
Those that had a masquerade but are now known, are The Unmasked World.

The TS-specific examples are more a maintained ignorance with no inherent mechanism. This is pretty close to The Weirdness Sensor (the article even references Buffy), but I'm not entirely sure that satisfies.

Anyway, I hope that helps!

Thanks TL, I thought TVtropes would have something to say about this. :) I like the 'masquerade' term for the trope I like, and the Weirdness Censor is what I ranted about in my previous post. Though I'm finding that term counterintuitive -- 'censor' implies that there's some in-setting person or force keeping the general populace ignorant of the magic and monsters, or that there's some government telling the story's author how to write his/her fantasy fic. Which would be exceedingly odd, even by the standards of the stupidest government censorship.

Maybe something like 'mundane over magic.' I dunno, I'm trying to think of a term that expresses the total lack of explanation for peoples' obliviousness to things that real people would absolutely be aware of and concerned with...

[Tacticslion]

captain yesterday wrote:

How to give a music nerd a rage stroke.

"Have you noticed how similar Phantom Planet is to Radiohead, they're practically the same band!"

"Question of the Day: is Creed and Puddle of Mudd the same band?"

SECRETS!:

I know what I did.

Also, this question originates from Beard Bros. Metroid playthrough (specifically here).

To be fair, I confuse Blurry and Untitled by Simple Plan all the daggum time, even though they're really nothing alike. I mean, really, this latter is much more like a Nickelback song.

Again, yes, I know what I just did. >:)

This would be a pretty great time for David M. Mallon to just reappear from nowhere and rage all up in my face about how terrible I am. Just saying. I miss that guy.

EDIT:

Dang it!

Thanks, cy, now I'm stuck listening to Creed, Simple Plan, Nickelback, and Puddle of Mudd.

>:I

I'm absolutely certain this is all your fault.

Meh. Might as well add Seether; and maybe Smash Mouth and Evanescence to the list. I can pretend it's the late nineties/early aughts!

Heh. >:)

Might as well:

Eeheehee, soon, you will all know the pain of dyslexia as I know it! Soon nothing will make sense! Nothing at all! Especially not once I these two two things! NYAHAHAHAHAH~!

Look, I dunno, it's just making me amused, for some unfathomable reason.

EDIT: And, you know, add, uh... someone who's not Linkin Park, I dunno, I ran out. Maybe pretend that link says it's The Cranberries or something.

EDIT: Yes, I made several edits. I regret nothing!

[Tacticslion]

Tequila Sunrise wrote:

Thanks TL, I thought TVtropes would have something to say about this. :) I like the 'masquerade' term for the trope I like, and the Weirdness Censor is what I ranted about in my previous post. Though I'm finding that term counterintuitive -- 'censor' implies that there's some in-setting person or force keeping the general populace ignorant of the magic and monsters, or that there's some government telling the story's author how to write his/her fantasy fic. Which would be exceedingly odd, even by the standards of the stupidest government censorship.

Maybe something like 'mundane over magic.' I dunno, I'm trying to think of a term that expresses the total lack of explanation for peoples' obliviousness to things that real people would absolutely be aware of and concerned with...

"Ugh. People dumb."

- the philosophical barbarian

[captain yesterday]

Awesome! Just caught the Doctor Strange name drop in Captain America: Winter Soldier.

[Tacticslion]

captain yesterday wrote:

Awesome! Just caught the Doctor Strange name drop in Captain America: Winter Soldier.

I loved that reference!

[John Napier 698]

So, in the last four hours, I've modified my Subsector generator to be able to generate a fully populated Sector, which is 16 subsectors. It is fairly complete and I'm happy with it. And so, the project is done. :)

[John Napier 698]

I'm about to close up the garage. Good night,everyone.