Carrion Crown influences (possible spoilers for the Black Company series)


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I don't know if this has already been talked about, but I'm getting a serious Black Company vibe off the last book in the AP, as described in the blurb. I mean, swap out Tar-Baphon for the Dominator and Gallowspire for the Barrowlands (neither one is a stretch) and you've got it. Is this just me? Have I been reading too much Glen Cook lately?

Please note that I don't think this is a bad thing. Far from it, in fact, as for my money fantasy doesn't get better than the Black Company books.


Gregg Helmberger wrote:

I don't know if this has already been talked about, but I'm getting a serious Black Company vibe off the last book in the AP, as described in the blurb. I mean, swap out Tar-Baphon for the Dominator and Gallowspire for the Barrowlands (neither one is a stretch) and you've got it. Is this just me? Have I been reading too much Glen Cook lately?

Please note that I don't think this is a bad thing. Far from it, in fact, as for my money fantasy doesn't get better than the Black Company books.

Can one read too much Glen Cook? It seems one would suffer from a lack of Glen Cook rather than the opposite.

But to your point, I hadn't thought of this AP in that way. I'll have to read through the blurbs again.

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Not really. But I am a big Black Company fan.

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That's one way to look at it, I suppose.

The other way to look at it is that it is channeling the Rebirth of Kyuss from vol 12 of the Age of Worms.

Either way, tastes great; less filling.


If it is, I *demand* a Toadkiller Dog in it! :D


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All I can say, Glen Cook ftw!

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I hate to say it, but I've never read any Glen Cook.

The vast - vast, vast, vast, VAST - majority of my inspirations for Ustalav and this AP come from gothic literature, film, and classic RPG horror adventures.

If you think it's in that vein, tough, I might just have to check Black Company out!

All that being said, I think folks might be surprised by Tar-Baphon's involvement in this AP. I don't know if that's been over played in our past descriptions, but in a year when people are looking back at this AP I expect they'll remember a villain less like the Crypt Keeper and more like Dorian Gray.


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:

I hate to say it, but I've never read any Glen Cook.

The vast - vast, vast, vast, VAST - majority of my inspirations for Ustalav and this AP come from gothic literature, film, and classic RPG horror adventures.

If you think it's in that vein, tough, I might just have to check Black Company out!

All that being said, I think folks might be surprised by Tar-Baphon's involvement in this AP. I don't know if that's been over played in our past descriptions, but in a year when people are looking back at this AP I expect they'll remember a villain less like the Crypt Keeper and more like Dorian Gray.

The Black Company isn't horror (Steven Erickson describes it aptly enough as "Vietnam War fiction on peyote") but the storyline of the first three books climaxes at a place that reminds me a lot of Gallowspire, and in a way reminiscent (to me, at least) of a bunch of different factions coming together to stop Tar-Baphon from waking up. :-)


Gregg Helmberger wrote:
F. Wesley Schneider wrote:

I hate to say it, but I've never read any Glen Cook.

The vast - vast, vast, vast, VAST - majority of my inspirations for Ustalav and this AP come from gothic literature, film, and classic RPG horror adventures.

If you think it's in that vein, tough, I might just have to check Black Company out!

All that being said, I think folks might be surprised by Tar-Baphon's involvement in this AP. I don't know if that's been over played in our past descriptions, but in a year when people are looking back at this AP I expect they'll remember a villain less like the Crypt Keeper and more like Dorian Gray.

The Black Company isn't horror (Steven Erickson describes it aptly enough as "Vietnam War fiction on peyote") but the storyline of the first three books climaxes at a place that reminds me a lot of Gallowspire, and in a way reminiscent (to me, at least) of a bunch of different factions coming together to stop Tar-Baphon from waking up. :-)

I can't recommend Cook's Black Company series enough. It follows a company of mercenaries (LN, CN, and LE types, no Paladins here) through their employment, betrayal by, and opposition to a succession of evil overlords and insane gods.

The series is very well written with interesting characters, and most importantly, a good understanding of actual military tactics and how they might be applied on a fantasy battlefield. IMHO The Black Company series should be required reading for anyone thinking of running a campaign where the PC's are going to be members of a military organization.


I consider Black Company setting to be on the par with the best settings out there. Here is a small preview.

Weren't it for its cult status and the story being widely known, I would have run campaign long time ago.

*sigh*

The magic system actually works, by the way. It takes a lot to learn, though.

Regards,
Ruemere


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
... I might just have to check Black Company out!

Yes, you must!


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Treppa wrote:
F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
... I might just have to check Black Company out!
Yes, you must!

+1

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Treppa wrote:
F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
... I might just have to check Black Company out!
Yes, you must!

Absolutely! Glen Cook has a spare writing style much like Saberhagen or Brust, but has an utter elegance in creating believable personalities. His characters are very human, and likeable (in spite of their human flaws)


Gregg Helmberger wrote:
...as for my money fantasy doesn't get better than the Black Company books.

I have to agree. Fantastic books, fantastic concepts. A friend of mine ran a 2nd ed D&D Game using a lot of the bad guys as foes....Dominator was still in the ground, but the Lady and her boys were definitely in play.


For this thing's influence, I feel a lot of Ravenloft, of course.

It's very gothic in feel. Even the name of the town :)

Well done, Paizo!

Joël

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