No Ninja Tricks


Ninja Discussion: Round 1


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I don't think Ninja Tricks should be separated from Rogue Talents. I know I will be allowing ninja and rogues to take them interchangeably. If the Ninja Tricks requiring Ki are separated out with a statement like: "The following rogue talents may be chosen if the rogue has access to a Ki Pool." then they can be used by rogue/monks and ninja alike. That also allows the repeated rogue talents to be cut and more cool new rogue talents put in their place.

Once all the ninja tricks are properly balanced, there will be no need to separate them out from regular rogue talents.

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Anywayz. It would've been better to just make a variant for Rogue to cover the Ki abilities than to build a new class that's just modified Rogue but with enough stuff added to make it better than normal Rogue.

I'd say for the transparency to work, it'd either have to be limited, like how Ninja can only take 1 Rogue talent... or that's what I would say if several of the Ninja talents weren't just rebadged Rogue talents.

A compromise that would solve that would be to make Ki Power a Rogue talent, and then let the Rogue pick up a Ninja Talents. If they don't have a Ki Pool, then they can use the ability once a day. If they do have the Ki Pool, then they could pay for additional daily uses of the chosen ability, like Ninja can.

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