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Is it possible for a half-orc to get two bite attacks by taking the toothy alternate racial trait AND the razortusk feat?
The Horc would need two mouths to bite twice. One attack per limb + one mouth = one attack.
Could you point out where you found that rule?
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Í edited this cause I was being mean.
You can make attacks with natural weapons in combination with attacks made with a melee weapon and unarmed strikes, so long as a different limb is used for each attack.This exactly. While some may try to munchkin the part where a mouth is not a "limb" it is the intention of the rule here and should be respected.
That rule is referring to manufactured weapons. It doesn't look to me like it would (or should) apply here.
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That rule is referring to manufactured weapons. It doesn't look to me like it would (or should) apply here.
Then lets try this bit on for size then (same page as previous rules).
... you receive additional attack rolls for multiple
limbs and body parts capable of making the attack (as noted
by the race or ability that grants the attacks).
Seems pretty clear to me unless you have 2 separate body parts that the bite attacks are granted by.
Also, good morning RD!
Good morning Themetricsystem!
Are tusks jutting two feet from your face and sharp razor teeth in your jowls not two separate "limbs" for the purposes of determining attacks?
"Here's two different ways to take the same ability."
"Okay, good, I'll stack them."
"D'oh!"
Hey, finding the "maybe possible" combinations that no one else thinks of is kind of what I'm known for. :P
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Good morning Themetricsystem!
Are tusks jutting two feet from your face and sharp razor teeth in your jowls not two separate "limbs" for the purposes of determining attacks?
Do sharks get a separate bite attack for each row of teeth they posses?
While I kinda see where you are going with that I would have to say that for them to qualify it the tusks would have to be "gore" attacks instead of bite ones.
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Hey, finding the "maybe possible" combinations that no one else thinks of is kind of what I'm known for. :P
Well, it's the same ability called two different things.
If Razortusk was meant to improve your natural bite attack, it would say so; but all it does is describe the same ability in a little more detail.
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I clicked the FAQ button on the first post in this thread. I highly recommend some of you do the same. After all, thats what its there for.
There's no evidence that they meant for these things to stack. It's not called Improved Toothy.
Sometimes it's okay to just use common sense when it comes to designer intent instead of trying to break something because it's not comprehensively explicit.
I clicked the FAQ button on the first post in this thread. I highly recommend some of you do the same. After all, thats what its there for.
....WHERE DID THAT BUTTON COME FROM
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I clicked the FAQ button on the first post in this thread. I highly recommend some of you do the same. After all, thats what its there for.....WHERE DID THAT BUTTON COME FROM
Jason introduced that feature a while back. When people click it, it flags the post for consideration in the FAQ. Its a very useful feature.
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I clicked the FAQ button on the first post in this thread. I highly recommend some of you do the same. After all, thats what its there for.....WHERE DID THAT BUTTON COME FROM
It is how they are going to be trying to handle all the (as it were) frequently asked questions that come up all the time here. Jason and them won't have time to really get that much work done on starting the actual FAQ itself until sometime this week according to what they said in regards to them being busy with gen-con so my guess is look for something in a few weeks to a month.
Hey, finding the "maybe possible" combinations that no one else thinks of is kind of what I'm known for.
That's one way of wording it....
Personally, I would rule it that you gain only a single bite attack... with the feat building on the alternate racial trait, increasing the damage done by a single step.
But then, with the new Orcs of Golarion book we now have the TRAIT (racial):Tusked granting a 1d4 bite attack...
Oh the permutations!!!!
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Jason and them won't have time to really get that much work done on starting the actual FAQ itself until sometime this week according to what they said in regards to them being busy with gen-con so my guess is look for something in a few weeks to a month.So until then, Everyone click it!
Or ticket!
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Or ticket!Jason and them won't have time to really get that much work done on starting the actual FAQ itself until sometime this week according to what they said in regards to them being busy with gen-con so my guess is look for something in a few weeks to a month.So until then, Everyone click it!
Don't forget, passengers too!
I clicked the FAQ button on the first post in this thread. I highly recommend some of you do the same. After all, thats what its there for.I thought it was for 'frequently' asked questions, this doesn't qualify since it falls under the heading of obvious.
What is the OBVIOUS answer then, pray tell?
What is the OBVIOUS answer then, pray tell?I clicked the FAQ button on the first post in this thread. I highly recommend some of you do the same. After all, thats what its there for.I thought it was for 'frequently' asked questions, this doesn't qualify since it falls under the heading of obvious.
No. it is very obvious.
go ahead and take the feat, the trait, and the alternate racial ability. you just have 3 mouths now. i'll throw in the abberration type for free. your other 2 mouths just replace your palms just like Deirdra (Spelling?).
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you cant use the same natural attack more than once per round, no matter how many sources you get it from. you can have a bazillion bite attacks from various sources, but you can only make 1 per mouth per round. meaning 1 for most creatures. otherwise sharks would be making a lot more attacks per round.
you cant use the same natural attack more than once per round, no matter how many sources you get it from. you can have a bazillion bite attacks from various sources, but you can only make 1 per mouth per round. meaning 1 for most creatures. otherwise sharks would be making a lot more attacks per round.
that's why i suggested that the other 2 bite attacks come from mouths on the palms of your hands. ala Deirdra (did i get the spelling right).
No. it is very obvious.What is the OBVIOUS answer then, pray tell?I clicked the FAQ button on the first post in this thread. I highly recommend some of you do the same. After all, thats what its there for.I thought it was for 'frequently' asked questions, this doesn't qualify since it falls under the heading of obvious.
There are at least 7 people who would disagree.
The to be blunt 7 people need to read the rules and use common sense.
by going to the local blacksmiths all 3 of them you buy 6 daggers, does that mean you can make 3 different sets of twf attacks? no (but i got them from different sources!!)
Ask your dm if you can houserule an increase to damage, heck ask him if its okay that you do 2 seperate bite attacks....other than that neither feat specifies it grants you an additional attack or bumps the damage, taking two weapon defense when my off hand is a light shield does not stack anything for me as a shield bash fighter. Don't think of the game in such abstractions. Its generally not beneficial.