So I just started running a campaign and 1 of my characters is relatively new to D&D and she's playing a Druid. She understands the restricted armor usage and the party's helping her out with preparing spells and things like that. I have a few questions related to the Druid though just in case they come up in game.
1: The character has put some ranks in Craft (weapons) and is thinking about putting ranks in Craft (armor). My question is can she craft prohibited armor? By RAW (or at least what I've read) she might be able to because under the Druids "weapon and armor proficiencies" it just says she can't wear metal armor or use a metal shield.
2: I'm pretty sure the answer to this is no but, if the Druid wild shapes into a weasel or ferret is she immune to a Cockatrice's petrification vision thing? Just wondering this because I was kind of thinking about putting a Cockatrice somewhere with some valuable object that the Druid could take whatever object from if she wild shaped. I suppose she could just wild shape into a chicken though, but then they might have to fight the Cockatrice.
Those are all the questions I can think of for now but I may ask a few more later.
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So I just started running a campaign and 1 of my characters is relatively new to D&D and she's playing a Druid. She understands the restricted armor usage and the party's helping her out with preparing spells and things like that. I have a few questions related to the Druid though just in case they come up in game.
1: The character has put some ranks in Craft (weapons) and is thinking about putting ranks in Craft (armor). My question is can she craft prohibited armor? By RAW (or at least what I've read) she might be able to because under the Druids "weapon and armor proficiencies" it just says she can't wear metal armor or use a metal shield.
2: I'm pretty sure the answer to this is no but, if the Druid wild shapes into a weasel or ferret is she immune to a Cockatrice's petrification vision thing? Just wondering this because I was kind of thinking about putting a Cockatrice somewhere with some valuable object that the Druid could take whatever object from if she wild shaped. I suppose she could just wild shape into a chicken though, but then they might have to fight the Cockatrice.
Those are all the questions I can think of for now but I may ask a few more later.
nothing stops a druid from making anything other than personal preference. by raw they can make anything like anyone else
is there any special reason a ferret would be immu8ne to the Cockatrices attack? nothing special i know of, so nope. no immunity
is there any special reason a ferret would be immu8ne to the Cockatrices attack? nothing special i know of, so nope. no immunity
Under the Cockatrice in the Beastiary it says:
The cockatrice’s strange ability to turn other creatures to stone is the creature’s greatest defense, and a cockatrice lair is invariably littered with petrified remnants of foes. In an ironic twist of fate, however, weasels and ferrets— the creatures most likely to slip into cockatrices’ nests and consume their eggs—appear to be completely immune to the effect. For unknown reasons, cockatrices are both terrified of and enraged by conventional roosters, and are equally likely to f lee or attack when confronted by one.
That's the big reason I was wondering. I was going to do it for more of a comical purpose than anything else.
is there any special reason a ferret would be immu8ne to the Cockatrices attack? nothing special i know of, so nope. no immunityUnder the Cockatrice in the Beastiary it says:
The cockatrice’s strange ability to turn other creatures to stone is the creature’s greatest defense, and a cockatrice lair is invariably littered with petrified remnants of foes. In an ironic twist of fate, however, weasels and ferrets— the creatures most likely to slip into cockatrices’ nests and consume their eggs—appear to be completely immune to the effect. For unknown reasons, cockatrices are both terrified of and enraged by conventional roosters, and are equally likely to f lee or attack when confronted by one.That's the big reason I was wondering. I was going to do it for more of a comical purpose than anything else.
Wild Shape, at 6th level, allows you to change into a tiny animal (weasels are tiny). It also functions as beast shape II (Core Rulebook, pg. 51). Beast Shape II says: 'If the form you assume has any of the following abilities, you gain the listed ability: climb 60 feet, fly 60 feet (good maneuverability), swim 60 feet, darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision, scent, grab, pounce, and trip'. I would say no to the cockatrice gaze immunity, since it is not on the list.
i can only assume its a case of fluff trying to interfere with game mechanics. also it says its a petrifying bite, not vision
Oh, yeah . . . lol. It's a bite attack!
Ya I forgot it was a bite. I was just wondering because I kind of wanted the Druid to be able to sneak up and steal whatever the Cockatrice had without the possibility of being petrified. I guess if she changes into a chicken I'll roll to see whether the Cockatrice runs or attacks then.
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Ya I forgot it was a bite. I was just wondering because I kind of wanted the Druid to be able to sneak up and steal whatever the Cockatrice had without the possibility of being petrified. I guess if she changes into a chicken I'll roll to see whether the Cockatrice runs or attacks then.
now thats funny
if you wanted to allow the druid to get away with it, it would also be perfectly reasonable for a cockatrice to not try to petrify a weasel or ferret since it would assume that the ability wouldn't work.
if you wanted to allow the druid to get away with it, it would also be perfectly reasonable for a cockatrice to not try to petrify a weasel or ferret since it would assume that the ability wouldn't work.
I was kind of thinking that but it says that Cockatrice's are territorial and I'm assuming it's protecting it's eggs and whatever that valuable item is, so it still might attack the weasel. I may just house rule it to work in that instance or something like that. I'm actually kind of liking the turning into a chicken idea more now, it could either be an encounter or the Cockatrice might just run away. I might also give the Cockatrice the Giant Template (because the PC's are 3rd level) to make it a little scari... uglier.
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if you wanted to allow the druid to get away with it, it would also be perfectly reasonable for a cockatrice to not try to petrify a weasel or ferret since it would assume that the ability wouldn't work.I was kind of thinking that but it says that Cockatrice's are territorial and I'm assuming it's protecting it's eggs and whatever that valuable item is, so it still might attack the weasel. I may just house rule it to work in that instance or something like that. I'm actually kind of liking the turning into a chicken idea more now, it could either be an encounter or the Cockatrice might just run away. I might also give the Cockatrice the Giant Template (because the PC's are 3rd level) to make it a little scari... uglier.
I would allow both options. Either stealth in as a ferret or weasel with immunity to petrification or as a scary chicken! ;-)
You are the DM and you decide the rules in your campaign! :-)
I would allow both options. Either stealth in as a ferret or weasel with immunity to petrification or as a scary chicken! ;-)
You are the DM and you decide the rules in your campaign! :-)
Well ya, I just kind of wanted to know what the answer was by RAW.
If you wanted to have that information in your game it would certainly not be known to every druid at first level.
A 1st-level druid with a 10 Int and no skill feats can get Knowledge (nature) +6. That seems like enough to pretty much know just about everything there is to know about weasels.
If you wanted to have that information in your game it would certainly not be known to every druid at first level.A 1st-level druid with a 10 Int and no skill feats can get Knowledge (nature) +6. That seems like enough to pretty much know just about everything there is to know about weasels.
Well 1st off, a 1st level Druid can't Wild Shape at all. Secondly, it requires a Knowledge (arcana) check to identify the weaknesses and whatnot of a Cockatrice because they're magical beasts. I will probably put it in as a riddle or something (just because that sounds like a fun idea) and then have the PCs make a Knowledge (arcana) check to figure it out when they see the Cockatrice.
Well 1st off, a 1st level Druid can't Wild Shape at all. Secondly, it requires a Knowledge (arcana) check to identify the weaknesses and whatnot of a Cockatrice because they're magical beasts.
I never said a 1st-level druid could wild shape, and it takes Knowledge (nature) to know the strengths and whatnot of weasels.
:)
Now we must rephrase the old saying.
From:
"Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines."
to
"Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get petrified by cockatrice bites."
I never said a 1st-level druid could wild shape, and it takes Knowledge (nature) to know the strengths and whatnot of weasels.
:)
Yes but why would you make a Knowledge (nature) check about weasels when encountering a Cockatrice?
I didn't make my knowledge nature when I encountered the cockatrice. I made it as a wee young druid first learning to change into a weasel, to answer the question "what is his motivation?" (after all, in order to become the weasel, one must know the weasel) ;-)
You, Sir, do not give weasels enough credit!
[devil's advocate=me] Doesn't a knowledge roll determine weaknesses as well as strengths? I would say being immune to cockatrice is a pretty big strength for a weasel... [/devil's advocate]
@ Jake
Here, Here! Good call! The noble weasel and all that!
;-)
A druid that wild shapes does not become a weasel -- he becomes a human in a weasel suit. It's a polymorph effect that changes outwardly appearance and gives some abilities -- not all of them and specifically doesn't change what you really are.
Basically polymorph spells are magical iron man suits.
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A druid that wild shapes does not become a weasel -- he becomes a human in a weasel suit. It's a polymorph effect that changes outwardly appearance and gives some abilities -- not all of them and specifically doesn't change what you really are.
Basically polymorph spells are magical iron man suits.
more like mario 3 tanooki suits
I would allow it, as long as it was discovered with an IC knowledge roll - Cockatrice bites not working on ferrets and weasels is an ability of the ~cockatrice~, not the ferret or weasel - just like Ghoul paralysis not working on Elves is not a racial feature of Elves. I would allow a player who Alter Selfed into an Elf to be immune to Ghoul paralysis (again assuming they made the knowledge roll IC), so I'd allow the same here.
I would allow it, as long as it was discovered with an IC knowledge roll - Cockatrice bites not working on ferrets and weasels is an ability of the ~cockatrice~, not the ferret or weasel - just like Ghoul paralysis not working on Elves is not a racial feature of Elves. I would allow a player who Alter Selfed into an Elf to be immune to Ghoul paralysis (again assuming they made the knowledge roll IC), so I'd allow the same here.
Ya this is what I think I'm going with. I realize by RAW it doesn't work (and I was pretty sure to begin with that it wouldn't work) but I was doing it as more of a comedic factor than anything else.
"Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get petrified by cockatrice bites."
that is now my facebook status
+1
more like mario 3 tanooki suits
Lol I'm going to go with this :)
You mentioned your PC's were level 3. A druid can't actually wild shape until level 4.
That's, of course, unless you've decided to make some type of house rule.
You mentioned your PC's were level 3. A druid can't actually wild shape until level 4.
That's, of course, unless you've decided to make some type of house rule.
No house rule, this won't happen til they're a higher level, and the encounter is actually with a lot of Cockatrice's, not just 1. Probably something similar to an abandoned chicken coop that Cockatrice's have taken over. I may even have a medium and/or large sized Cockatrice in this coop as the "ring leader" of the others.
No house rule, this won't happen til they're a higher level, and the encounter is actually with a lot of Cockatrice's, not just 1. Probably something similar to an abandoned chicken coop that Cockatrice's have taken over. I may even have a medium and/or large sized Cockatrice in this coop as the "ring leader" of the others.
I like this idea. Nice bit of flavor.
I can envision the scenario now.
Fighter: " Let me get this straight ... the first piece of the Doohickie of Great Triumphant Marching is somewhere inside this giant ... chicken coop?! "
Druid: " Yes. "
Fighter: " And there are several dozen petrifying roosters and chickens waiting for us in there. "
Druid: " Yes. "
Fighter: " We're all going to DIE in there! The wizard doesn't have enough fireballs in a month to demolish that place ... "
Wizard: " Shush you. I told you we should have bought that wand on the cheap when it came up, but noooOOOoo .. "
Fighter: *Pimp slaps the Wizard to his place in the marching order* " ... and the Rogue is allergic to chicken feathers. "
Druid: " Yes. "
Fighter: " So, how do we get the first piece of the Doohickie then ? "
Druid: " I perform ... the Manu Weasel Dance, becoming a weasel by way of a Secret Druidic Ritual. Then I weasel my way in, fetch the first piece of the Doohickie out, weasel back out and you guys make ready to scoop me up and run like crazy when the Big Rooster of Doom chases me out. Sounds like a good plan to me. "
Fighter: " ... "
Druid: " What?! "
Actually what you have sounds about right, maybe change Wizard to Sorcerer and add in Psion somewhere and it's pretty much exactly how I see it going :P