So what's up with liches lately?
We have three threads on the first page of these forums where 3 different players are playing or asking about playing characters whose goals are to become liches.
But we have no threads on the front page about playing ninjas.
Now, I would ask where all the ninjas went, but that would be pointless - nobody can find ninjas when they don't want to be found. But my real question is have liches become cool enough to replace ninjas for the number 1 spot of elite superbitshin character godliness?
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Nah, Vampires are the new Ninjas.
Silent, deadly, living in the dark, powerful (their score modifiers are way more high than those of Liches), glamourous and uber-deadly against characters without a Protection from Evil spell.
No, seriously, look at their Dominate ability: in 3.5, it required the Vampire to look at their target into their eyes (it was basically a gaze attack without the 'passive' effect, it could only be used during the Vampire's turn), now it is simply a 'target' effect.
Plus, Vampires are easy to create...
And they do not sleep during the day. They simply have to avoid sunlight. Put on a heavy blanket (like Spike did in the Buffy series) and you should be fine.
All I have to add is this...
Trust me....you don't want to know.
Nah, Vampires are the new Ninjas.
Silent, deadly, living in the dark, powerful (their score modifiers are way more high than those of Liches), glamourous and uber-deadly against characters without a Protection from Evil spell.
No, seriously, look at their Dominate ability: in 3.5, it required the Vampire to look at their target into their eyes (it was basically a gaze attack without the 'passive' effect, it could only be used during the Vampire's turn), now it is simply a 'target' effect.
Plus, Vampires are easy to create...
And they do not sleep during the day. They simply have to avoid sunlight. Put on a heavy blanket (like Spike did in the Buffy series) and you should be fine.
Or maybe just take the variant vampire racial trait that lets them sparkle in the sunlight.
Or maybe just take the variant vampire racial trait that lets them sparkle in the sunlight.
That is the real stake in the heart of any 'old-stye' Vampire fan :(
and please note that I really loved Anne Rice's version and the flamboyant Lestat - until the novels became too much mystical and angels and demons and mumbo-jumbo, basically I stopped reading the Vampire Chronicles after 'Memnoch the Devil'...
Where do people get the rules for becoming a lich anyhow?
I'm another who finds little of interest in anonymous kabuki assassins. Liches, on the other hand, are inherently cool because they're ancient immortal wizards, at least when done right.
Asian flavor is fine, however. Look at "Big Trouble in Little China" and then think of Lo Pan, the BBEG of the film. Is he a ninja or a lich?
Lich all the way. He's being opposed by a ninja with a wizard mentor and a rogue/jester sidekick (admirably played by Kurt Russell), but Lo Pan is most emphatically a lich.
Liches, however, are probably my favorite fantasy rpg villain, or the one that hooked me.
Hmmmm, any lingering Skeletor nostalgia perhaps?
No, not criticizing, I watched that too. Back in the day...
Where do people get the rules for becoming a lich anyhow?
No!
You can't have them!
I fear you would succumb to the temptation...
Actually, liches are the new pirates.
Actually, liches are the new pirates.
Oooh, yes, and September 19th is only 3 months away. Time to start getting prepared.
So, any advice on how to talk like a lich?
Liches are wizards (gamers love wizards) who, instead of dying like a chump (nobody likes to die), became Skeletor (everyone loves Skeletor) and hid their soul in a weird and complex puzzle (nerds adore puzzles, and I'm one of them)
Liches are literally created from everything we as gamers love.
It seems to me just players looking for broken ways to make their PC's more powerful.. supposedly paizo has to recreate the lich, a phylactery doesnt work for player characters, unlike npcs who play fair and keep their phylactery hidden in a plain trapped room, pcs go to extreme lengths to be near unkillable.
Should have just scrapped the phylactery, never did think it added much anyway, and what is with the +8 stealth.. no wonder nobody likes ninjas nomore, just make a lich shadowdancer.
Are liches the new ninjas?
No. They are better.
They're spellcasting zombies!
What's not to like?
Liches are wizards (gamers love wizards) who, instead of dying like a chump (nobody likes to die), became Skeletor (everyone loves Skeletor) and hid their soul in a weird and complex puzzle (nerds adore puzzles, and I'm one of them)
Liches are literally created from everything we as gamers love.
lol
If it makes any of you feel any better...
Sadly, no, that didn't help much... ;)
(tell me, will your summoner throw little plastic eggs onto the ground and say things like "Eidolon, I choose you!")
-just kidding-
(I think)
Now, if we can get three more of you to post on three more threads, we can have the ninja fans outnumbering the lich fans, at least on a front-page thread-war basis.
Oooh, war.
Thought Experiment time: Who wins the war between a clan of ninjas and a crypt of liches?
(And is "crypt" the right group-word for lich groups? I would have gone with "murder" but crows already own that one. And "gaggle" seems just too silly for liches).
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Lich, ninja, pirates. So five minutes ago. Bored now.
When can I start seeing some builds for cybernetically-enhanced dinosaurs?
A little anthropomorphic triceratops, a dash of renegade mastermaker, we could make this happen!
You would need the help of a lich to accomplish that. Come into my parlor...
What about ninja-liches?
If "Liches are the new Ninjas", ...
... then who are the new "Pirates"?
If "Liches are the new Ninjas", ...
... then who are the new "Pirates"?
Bikers. It's the Hells Angels vs. Liches.
Liches are wizards (gamers love wizards) who, instead of dying like a chump (nobody likes to die), became Skeletor (everyone loves Skeletor) and hid their soul in a weird and complex puzzle (nerds adore puzzles, and I'm one of them)
Liches are literally created from everything we as gamers love.
+1 LMAO
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All this lich talk...
Makes me think of this one show...
"Ancient spirits of Evil... Transform this decayed form to Mum-Ra! The Everliving!" <insert maniacal laughter>
I may have the phrase slightly off, it's been a looong while since I last saw that show and well, it's being remade again... I feel old... like a lich!
Gish-Liches
