If you don't mind me asking what gig you feel was wrong with Siege 4 I actually felt it was pretty good.Ok. A couple of things:
** spoiler omitted **But I wasn't enamoured of the whole mini-series, or the previous few years of Bendis' writing so take them with a pinch of salt.
Good points (and I often think the same thing about many superhero battles), but I offer the following:
But the whole indestructible until hit one more time thing happens all over the place, like Superman and even more with Spider-Man, Wolverine or the Hulk.
Winter Soilder; that post should have been and should be in a spoiler.
Yeah, unfortunately, I can't seem to edit that post-production. One ot grow on.
Kevin, what Paul said pretty much outlines my issues with the issue. All things considered, I think the mini was mostly better than Bendis' typical standard, but I'm looking forward to a clean break from his books with the new Avengers titles. And seriously, Dan Slott doesn't have an Avengers book? Mighty was some of the most enjoyable stuff since Stern was writing!
If you don't mind me asking what gig you feel was wrong with Siege 4 I actually felt it was pretty good.Ok. A couple of things:
** spoiler omitted **But I wasn't enamoured of the whole mini-series, or the previous few years of Bendis' writing so take them with a pinch of salt.
Good points (and I often think the same thing about many superhero battles), but I offer the following:
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Point, this is lampshaded a few issues ago in Dark Avengers, IIRC. It's said that
Sentry seems to have a convuluted origin; I have read three origins in Marvel; sheesh; talk about obscure.
Sentry seems to have a convuluted origin; I have read three origins in Marvel; sheesh; talk about obscure.
Very sad considering the character is barely a decade old.
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Well, barely a decade old, but inserted into past Marvel continuity, which I thought to be a gratuitous mistake. So far as I can tell, the Sentry was designed specifically so he could go crazy and die. There really aren't that many other storylines for him --although the Avengers time-travel story from five years ago was a nice feature-- as his power level is out of whack with the Marvel universe.
At DC, the Sentry would have been just another Superman-class hero (like Martian Manhunter, Mon-el, Power Girl, Vartox)with a psychic-defined power structure.
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Sudden aside: what engineer in his right mind would rig the entire S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier to detonate in one enormous explosion, quite possibly nuclear, 'cause it's a couple kliks above the best damage that Thor can dish out, on a ten-second fuse, if its computer systems are hacked by a remote source?? Have you ever heard of fail-safes, people??
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Bendis came up with Sentry so that Siege could kill somebody of consequence. And he inserted him retroactively into Marvel's continuity so that death would feel like a bigger deal. (And for younger readers, who may not have been picking up comics ten years ago, I wouldn't wonder that they bought into the claim that the Sentry has been around ever since Kirby was in the Bullpen.)
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Am I alone in feeling that the conclusion of Siege is set in comparison to the battle in Miracleman 15?
Bendis came up with Sentry so that Siege could kill somebody of consequence. And he inserted him retroactively into Marvel's continuity so that death would feel like a bigger deal. (And for younger readers, who may not have been picking up comics ten years ago, I wouldn't wonder that they bought into the claim that the Sentry has been around ever since Kirby was in the Bullpen.)
Um, no. Bendis didn't come up with this character or insert him into Marvel continuity retroactively. That would be Paul Jenkins and Rick Veitch.
Well; I am just about finished reading all of siege; just have Sentry: Fallen Sun to go and I have it right here. At the end of Dark Avengers; cant say Osborn didnt have a point. I liked how Luke Cage got to be a big personality and face in the series, but am bit surprized that 'Fist wasnt standing next to him or in the Finale; push comes to shove and those two have a long history; figure they should have stood by each other; I would have written it in.
I thought the artwork in Siege 4 of 4 was substandard; the page of the Norn powerup was particularly poor.
anyway; on to Fallen Sun.
I just read through the wiki on The Sentry...umm... wow. That's about the most convoluted story ever. Which is saying a lot for a comic book character. Seriously his wife dies like a dozen times and his powers make no sense at all. He's worse then DC's Superboy.
I just read through the wiki on The Sentry...umm... wow. That's about the most convoluted story ever. Which is saying a lot for a comic book character. Seriously his wife dies like a dozen times and his powers make no sense at all. He's worse then DC's Superboy.
I really can't stand Sentry, and would like to see him stay dead.
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I just read through the wiki on The Sentry...umm... wow. That's about the most convoluted story ever. Which is saying a lot for a comic book character. Seriously his wife dies like a dozen times and his powers make no sense at all. He's worse then DC's Superboy.I really can't stand Sentry, and would like to see him stay dead.
Agreed.
I detest this phrase more then any other internet trope out there, but Sentry is a Mary Sue.
-His non-super form is that of an over-weight guy with marital issues (authors themselves?)
-He can beat every bad guy that everyone else has had trouble with.
-He is stronger, faster, more powerful then the most powerful heros.
-He has a crazy pet robot side-kick.
-He's got an enemy that's stronger then any enemy which only he can defeat because that enemy is himself.
-There are characters who literally describe him as the hand of God.
-Everyone wants him working for them
I honestly don't see how this hero got the green light.
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I picked up SIEGE: Aftermath - Avengers Prime this weekend. Wow.
This looks to be the Iron Man / Steve Rogers / Thor reconciliation storyline, and that's fine. And Bendis is writing, and that's fine. (Thor's rebuke in the middle of page six is underplayed and very well-written.)
But I am in love, all over again, with Alan Davis' art. For example: Steve Rogers' solo scene begins on page thirteen. He walks into a feast hall on a double-page spread (ppgs 14 - 15). The layout is very regular. We get an establishing panel, doing a terrific job of showing us, in a still medium, a suddenly still feasthall. And then the camera jumps back and forth from the goblins to Steve, getting closer and more intimate. Steve is starting to smile and relax until the last panel.
And then look at just the layout of the next three pages. There's not a rectangular panel anywhere to be scene in all the chaos of the fight. And then the goblins are all defeated, and the layout immediately drops back to proper, square panels. In terms of panel layout, during the fight, Davis never gives us a clear shot of any of the combatants. It's a close-up, or an arm here, or most of Roger's body but with goblins blocking our view. And afterwards, we get a good proper bird's-eye shot of Steve, left alone standing amid the wreckage.
The whole book is like that. It's a great study in how to draw three distinct characters, three tones, three different ways of approaching the storytelling. The knight, the soldier, the warrior.
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I picked up SIEGE: Aftermath - Avengers Prime this weekend. Wow.
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And then look at just the layout of the next three pages. There's not a rectangular panel anywhere to be scene in all the chaos of the fight. And then the goblins are all defeated, and the layout immediately drops back to proper, square panels. In terms of panel layout, during the fight, Davis never gives us a clear shot of any of the combatants. It's a close-up, or an arm here, or most of Roger's body but with goblins blocking our view. And afterwards, we get a good proper bird's-eye shot of Steve, left alone standing amid the wreckage.
The whole book is like that. It's a great study in how to draw three distinct characters, three tones, three different ways of approaching the storytelling. The knight, the soldier, the warrior.
Just read this. I agree about the Steve fight thing, but at the end of his scene, when he picks up that shield. I just smiled.
It's also nice to see Tony's "I hate magic" vibe, but downplayed.
so; I thought Marvel was out of the red and into the black and doing ok financially due to their movies and such; I agree; why such a rush to put out barely passable stuff; so very rushed and average; hmm.