Why must limbs be bought 2 at a time?


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I just don't get it, why can't we have three armed or 3 legged creatures. Limbs is a 2 point evolution that provides 2 limbs, so I really don't understand what reasoning is being used to justify not making it 1 point buys 1 limb. Especially since max attacks are capped now (which is a move I applaud) I'm just curious as to the thinking that all limbs have to be done in pairs?

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the 3 legs idea reminds me of a creature from the Everquest book series... I agree with you lastknightleft, it should be 1 point buys 1 limb.

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Etheral Filcher had 3 arms


If my character has three legs, why can't my Eidolon?

(ba DUM dum)


I'd like to have 13 limbs if I could. It would be more enemies I could crush with my bare hands. RAAAWWWRRRRLLL!

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Infernal Bulmahnaut #666 wrote:
I'd like to have 13 limbs if I could. It would be more enemies I could crush with my bare hands. RAAAWWWRRRRLLL!

What's funny is as ludicrous as it sounds there's nothing stopping you from having 12 hands, or 14 hands, but 13 just won't work.


lastknightleft wrote:
What's funny is as ludicrous as it sounds there's nothing stopping you from having 12 hands, or 14 hands, but 13 just won't work.

We Infernals have a way to get around such mathematical semantics. Base ten is for the simple minded.

Maybe if I ply Lord Jason with some rum we seized off the coast of Lesbos, he may have a change of heart.


As a footnote, you should see what house rules Asmodeus keeps these days. It's been 5,125 years and I still haven't finished reading the blasted thing!


I would say it's easier to house rule something like that then include it in the rules. My DM let me increase speed without adding extra limbs, it cost 2 points.


lastknightleft wrote:
Etheral Filcher had 3 arms

Let's not even get into Otyugh...

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Cartigan wrote:
lastknightleft wrote:
Etheral Filcher had 3 arms
Let's not even get into Otyugh...

three legs, two tentacles and an eyestalk right?

eric stipe wrote:
I would say it's easier to house rule something like that then include it in the rules. My DM let me increase speed without adding extra limbs, it cost 2 points.

Easier to houserule something than to fix it before it's published? Why? I mean I wouldn't bother posting this after the book is released, but the book isn't released, so why not try to get something you see as weird either fixed or at least explained so that you understand why it's being done.

I don't see a justification for needing to buy limbs in pairs. So I'm asking what said justification is.

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True I could build my Dergholoth clone with 3 arms and legs on a biped (tri-ped) chassis...

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Would it be cool if you bought limbs 2 at a time, but had the option of only using 1 of them? The reason they're 2 at a time, I suspect, is to keep the numbers balanced and to prevent folks from squeezing out some extra power by doing a "half-purchase." Similar, I guess, to how ability scores increase their bonus granted every 2 points and not every one.

Or maybe a triped type base form is something better served by some sort of expansion product? Remember that we don't HAVE to put every possible choice into the APG. We can expand upon any of this stuff in later books... as can ANY publisher who wants to do the same once the APG is out.


I want an invisible monopedal eidolon

<looks for his copy of Voyage of the Dawn Treador>

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The best solution for the time being is to simply buy the full pair, have a really good Heal skill ranking, and cut off the extra limb every day.

As a bonus, that's a replenishing source of rations right there. Doubly tasty if you bought the pincers evolution. Just make sure you have butter.

Mmmm...

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Mikaze wrote:

The best solution for the time being is to simply buy the full pair, have a really good Heal skill ranking, and cut off the extra limb every day.

As a bonus, that's a replenishing source of rations right there. Doubly tasty if you bought the pincers evolution. Just make sure you have butter.

Mmmm...

that doesn't work without regeneration (unless you're gaining a level every day) and I'm pretty sure you can't buy regeneration.

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James Jacobs wrote:

Would it be cool if you bought limbs 2 at a time, but had the option of only using 1 of them? The reason they're 2 at a time, I suspect, is to keep the numbers balanced and to prevent folks from squeezing out some extra power by doing a "half-purchase." Similar, I guess, to how ability scores increase their bonus granted every 2 points and not every one.

Or maybe a triped type base form is something better served by some sort of expansion product? Remember that we don't HAVE to put every possible choice into the APG. We can expand upon any of this stuff in later books... as can ANY publisher who wants to do the same once the APG is out.

You CAN publish books that expand on this stuff, but while I don't think you are your predecessor, your predecessor set the precedent that sometimes the first book is all the expansion you'll ever see.

and that's fine, but I don't get it with limbs. I understand it with ability scores, but the only worry with extra limbs is the extra attacks, and that problem is solved by the attack caps on the eidelon (like I said, awesome move) So I just don't see the issue with limbs that I totally get with # boosters. Especially when the claw or pincer evolutions require that you have 2 limbs to buy them, so even if you have just a third limb you don't have an attack on it (without arming it, but once again the max attack caps cover that and you can always just buy tentacles as well.

But I guess saying that the two point evolution can buy you either one or two limbs would work just as well I have no problem with that, I just want to be able to have an odd # of limbs, even if its an intentional self nerf for flavor (only getting one limb instead of the two you paid for) without something as drastic as cutting off a limb of the creature I'm bonded to lol.


As a house rule you could charge 2 points for a single limb with a claw. That's an easy work around, or 1 point for a single limb. Also, you could buy a tentacle and define it as a limb.

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mdt wrote:
As a house rule you could charge 2 points for a single limb with a claw. That's an easy work around, or 1 point for a single limb. Also, you could buy a tentacle and define it as a limb.

That's actually not a bad houserule if a change can't get made before the final release.

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