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Random thoughts prompted from the above discussion;

Michelle Pfeiffer in Wolf. Mmmmm. (How odd, she started her career as a woman who turned into a bird in Ladyhawke, dating a man who turned into a wolf... I don't know if it was her face structure or the make up, but she really did have a vulpine look towards the end of the film, almost making up for Nicholson being in the movie.)

Twilight. Never saw it. Never read it. My thoughts on vampires remains untainted by sparkles, although vampires that can go out during the day is hardly a new concept. See Stoker, Bram.

Stinger was indeed an awesome novel, and Usher's Passing pretty cool as well. Wolf's Hour and They Thirst didn't really impress me as much, but both were good reads. McCammon's books remind me of those of F. Paul Wilson, who set my imagination on fire with The Keep and The Tomb, and then, not so much with his later works...

Charlie Bell wrote:
Anybody else ever play the GURPS V:tM and W:tA conversions? It's been about 15 years ago, but iirc, the vampire template cost about 100 points and the werewolf template about 200. Pretty much any starting werewolf could utterly shred any starting vampire. FWIW.

Which made it a good simulation of the White Wolf rules, where a rank 2 Black Fury (basically the equivalent of a 4th level D&D character) with the Sharpen Claws (or whatever) Gift could pump out something like 35 Aggravated damage (while the Vampire stats stopped at Fortitude 10, Stamina 10, with PCs just about never getting over Fort 5, Sta 5, meaning that the eldest of NPC vampires, the equivalent of say, Iuz the Old, or Demogorgon, could soak a maximum of 20 of those 35 damage, leaving the remaining 15 to apply to his *seven* health levels...). And if that single 35 damage attack doesn't kill the most powerful vampire in the world? She can attack eight more times in a single action, at the cost of tuckering herself out for the day. Poor little boo. She might have to have a little lie-down after ending the game.

The Werewolves of WtA were 180 lb people who assumed the feral majesty of a 75 lb predator and, for some inexplicable reason, turned into 800 lb. engines of destruction who really looked and acted nothing at all like real world wolves. I prefer 'werewolves' that actually have something to do with wolves, which I think are one of the coolest animals in the natural world, instead of being psychotic dimension-traveling grizzly bears with knives.


GO TEAM WEREWOLF!!!


Speaking of Werewolves, I'm definitely curious about seeing the Wolfman remake with Benecio Del Toro.

If anyone gets a chance to see Daywalkers, definitely put up a review.


Little Kiba wrote:
Mr.Fishy wrote:

Fishy, bring that crap in the water fuzzy or you twinkle. Mr. Fishy is waiting.

Little Kiba notices that Mr. Fishy twinkles. Little Kiba tips over Mr. Fishy's fish bowl.

"Sorry, I couldn't hear you while you were underwater. Would you mind repeating yourself?"

I AM THE FISHY! The bowl was for your protection.

Mr. Fishy eats Little Kiba, then cough up a hair ball. Flips his bowl over cast create water and jumps in.

Damn kids.


Woah, there are lot of poodles in there!


Urizen wrote:
If anyone gets a chance to see Daywalkers, definitely put up a review.

Review of Daybreakers:

The first 40% has a really great premise.
The last 60% degrades into cheesy, cliche & generic action.
Lots of unnecessary explosions and plot holes.

I'd definitely suggest waiting to see it until it comes out on DVD.


Shadow13.com wrote:
Urizen wrote:
If anyone gets a chance to see Daywalkers, definitely put up a review.

Review of Daybreakers:

The first 40% has a really great premise.
The last 60% degrades into cheesy, cliche & generic action.
Lots of unnecessary explosions and plot holes.

I'd definitely suggest waiting to see it until it comes out on DVD.

Thanks for the correction; I did mean Daybreakers.

How was the violence / gore, out of curiosity?


Urizen wrote:
Shadow13.com wrote:
Urizen wrote:
If anyone gets a chance to see Daywalkers, definitely put up a review.

Review of Daybreakers:

The first 40% has a really great premise.
The last 60% degrades into cheesy, cliche & generic action.
Lots of unnecessary explosions and plot holes.

I'd definitely suggest waiting to see it until it comes out on DVD.

Thanks for the correction; I did mean Daybreakers.

How was the violence / gore, out of curiosity?

Towards the end of the movie, the violence was quite over the top.

Geysers of blood, severed limbs, piles of bodies, exploding vampires, etc.


Vampires like Christopher Lee are cool.
Teenaged vampires suck.

Werewolves are OK as long as they're murderous monsters, not teenage sex objects.


I like the "30 Days of Night" type of vampire. The kind that doesn't give a damn about anything. I hate the whiny "90210" type vampire that cries about how bad it is to be a vamp and wished they were human again, etc..


AAAAWOOOOOOOOO......


Shakira?


*HOWLS*


That's one she-wolf I'd let out of the closet. Or maybe I'd just lock myself in there with her.


Mmmmmmm....Shakira.


Her hips definitely do not lie.

Liberty's Edge

Werewolf or Vampire, I'd bite her.


Werezombie wrote:
Mmmmmmm....Shakira.

Shakira looks like she hasn't showered or washed her hair in days.


M a l K A v I a N


Are you going to penalize her for that? Child, please. :P


Garydee wrote:
I like the "30 Days of Night" type of vampire. The kind that doesn't give a damn about anything. I hate the whiny "90210" type vampire that cries about how bad it is to be a vamp and wished they were human again, etc..

Nobody understands my pain...


Nosferatu Vampires FTW - less shaving and cooler teeth


veector wrote:
Nosferatu Vampires FTW - less shaving and cooler teeth

Some of us can't help it that we're beautiful.


Angsty, the Androgynous Vampire wrote:
veector wrote:
Nosferatu Vampires FTW - less shaving and cooler teeth
Some of us can't help it that we're beautiful.

That's it! I can't take it anymore! *drives stakes through the vampire's heart* DIE! DIE! DIE!


Garydee wrote:
Angsty, the Androgynous Vampire wrote:
veector wrote:
Nosferatu Vampires FTW - less shaving and cooler teeth
Some of us can't help it that we're beautiful.
That's it! I can't take it anymore! *drives stakes through the vampire's heart* DIE! DIE! DIE!

You can kill this body, but my soul is already dead.

...

Hey that's pretty good. I think that will be the start of my next poem.


Shadow13.com wrote:
Werezombie wrote:
Mmmmmmm....Shakira.
Shakira looks like she hasn't showered or washed her hair in days.

Sorry...I got carried away. She'll be good as new, soon.

Liberty's Edge

I would love to see a movie with an angsty teen vampire who uses the "no one understands me except you, my love" as a hunting tactic for gullible, mal-adjusted teenagers. The vamp lures them in, kills them and moves on.

Liberty's Edge

I'd have to go with a necromancer who looks like a dracula.


I'd buy that for a dollar.


Mr.Fishy wrote:
Fishy, bring that crap in the water fuzzy or you twinkle. Mr. Fishy is waiting.

{carves "Mr. Fishy is a sea-wolf" into top of school desk, pops her gum}

Add me firmly into the pro-werewolf camp. And those 28 Days zombies would whup the Twilight vampires' butts.

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

You know what else is wrong with this thread?

It completely fails to take into account Kate Beckinsale's future offspring, which will pwn both species.

...expect for Ms. Beckinsale. Keep all your other bloodsuckers, just give me her.


Just watched Taste the Blood of Dracula. From back when you wanted to put a stake in a vampire, instead of "sexting" it. Not nearly as cool as Dracula Has Risen from the Grave, but alas, there are a limited number of Hammer Pictures flicks.

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Okay, Vote - Vampires.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

You know what else is wrong with this thread?

It completely fails to take into account Kate Beckinsale's future offspring, which will pwn both species.

...expect for Ms. Beckinsale. Keep all your other bloodsuckers, just give me her.

If she were mine to give, I wouldn't.


AAAAAAWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO........

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
Just watched Taste the Blood of Dracula. From back when you wanted to put a stake in a vampire, instead of "sexting" it. Not nearly as cool as Dracula Has Risen from the Grave, but alas, there are a limited number of Hammer Pictures flicks.

Hammer Films rule. I love their atmosphere. Some are stronger than others, but you can't go wrong with anything with Christopher Lee and/or Peter Cushing.

Now you've got me jonesing to watch "Horror of Dracula" again. Good thing I've got most of them on DVD...


Cuchulainn wrote:

I would love to see a movie with an angsty teen vampire who uses the "no one understands me except you, my love" as a hunting tactic for gullible, mal-adjusted teenagers. The vamp lures them in, kills them and moves on.

Mr. Fishy would borrow Urizen's copy.

Votes Were-Fishy.

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Were-fishy?

THERE fishy!

<points at Mr. Fishy>


Larry Lichman wrote:

Were-fishy?

THERE fishy!

<points at Mr. Fishy>

+5 for the Young Frankenstein reference.


Kirth Gersen wrote:
Just watched Taste the Blood of Dracula. From back when you wanted to put a stake in a vampire, instead of "sexting" it. Not nearly as cool as Dracula Has Risen from the Grave, but alas, there are a limited number of Hammer Pictures flicks.

Get with the times, old man. "Sexting" is how we emo vampires communicate in the 21st century.


Angsty, the Androgynous Vampire wrote:
Get with the times, old man. "Sexting" is how we emo vampires communicate in the 21st century.

You send people pics of your undead junk?

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Mr.Fishy wrote:
Fishy, bring that crap in the water fuzzy or you twinkle. Mr. Fishy is waiting.
{carves "Mr. Fishy is a sea-wolf" into top of school desk, pops her gum}

I do not believe your carving is accurate...


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

You know what else is wrong with this thread?

It completely fails to take into account Kate Beckinsale's future offspring, which will pwn both species.
...expect for Ms. Beckinsale. Keep all your other bloodsuckers, just give me her.
If she were mine to give, I wouldn't.

OK, then f*ck growing pork or guinea pigs in vats... I say we start by cloning Beckinsales.

.
Balthus the Sea Wolf wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
{carves "Mr. Fishy is a sea-wolf" into top of school desk, pops her gum}
I do not believe your carving is accurate...

I was going for knifesmanship over accuracy or truthiness.

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
Werewolves are OK as long as they're murderous monsters, not teenage sex objects.

Think you just nailed it. Werewolves are cool because it's hard to make them sexy. Werewolves are by nature beastial, violent and horrific. Which is way cooler than sexy.


Cool is dead. Just read the Birth and Death of the Cool. That just leaves sexy. I mean, you couldn't even post without talk of "nailing" it...


Proof that werewolves are better dressed and can dance better that vampires.


Wolves just wanna have fun.

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