Have I gone too far? Completionist urges and why my wife is always mad


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So I am curious. I have been involved in rpgs since I was 12 back in 1990. I took a long hiatus away from gaming from 1996-2004. Even at 12-13 I purchased more rpg books than I could consume.

I'll spoilerize the background material. You don't really need to read it to answer my questions.

Spoiler:
I mainly collected Tsr products. Lately I have been on a rampage. I am rapidly chomping through the missing holes in my collection. I set a goal, a scary very large goal. I wanted to own all of the 1st and 2nd edition Dungeons and Dragons books. Well most of them. I don't much care for rule books. There will always be rule books around but good fluff is hard to find. My focus was getting all of the setting books especially the ones I was missing large chunks of.... planescape and greyhawk in specific. I am armed with a checklist. I started with around 300 d&d books. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I wanna say there are around 750 tsr era books and I own around 600 of them now.

I comb ebay daily and I have now developed this awful awful habit.

Spoiler:
Whenever a book goes out of print and suddenly the prices skyrocket! surge! spike! I get extremely irritated. I didn't even collect Star Wars Saga but when I saw online sellers trying to get 100 dollars for Knights of the Old Republic I tracked one down at retail and purchased it. Its like a challenge. I found Ptolus for 93 dollars at a game store in Canada. Realms of the Ice Queen.... I found that in Florida for 25 bucks. I am still trying to find the Tome of Corruption for something reasonable. I ordered Cadwallon from France and the Hackmaster Coloring book from England. Oh and Temple of Existential Evil .... you are my evil quarry that I can never find. Then that starts the completionist wheels turning.... now I own all of the Star Wars saga books..... and I have about 19 WFRP books. Its an awful domino effect.

To my actual questions.... How much do most gamers actually collect? Do you keep your old books? How many lines of games do you follow?

I have tried to keep my new purchases to several gaming systems....

pathfinder
4e
Earthdawn
Exalted
Dark Heresy
Rifts
Savage Worlds
Star Wars Saga

I keep my vintage collector urges to
Earthdawn...just missing a few
WFRP - some of that stuff gets ridiculously expensive.....especially 1e
Old TSR stuff
Star Frontiers

One more question...how the heck do market prices get set for OOP rpg books?

Spoiler:
There is some yahoo trying to sell a copy of the Temple of Existential Evil for 19,999 on amazon. The copy according to the description has a hole through it. Wooo!

I have a whole conspiracy theory developed around the company any-book which sells on Amazon. They tend to have old rpg books labeled as like new or new that they are selling for five or ten times the retail. Who buys these books for these ridiculous prices?

I'll see something that sold new for 35 bucks.... an ebay store wants 75..... an amazon seller wants 100 and when it goes up for auction on ebay, I get it for 20 cause only one other person bids on it. Certainly there is something to be said for getting it right away but....

Wilderlands of high fantasy (the necromancer games version) is on amazon for 700 dollars. I saw it go for 60 dollars on an ebay auction last week. Why are things getting priced so outrageously? Are people actually buying these books for these prices? If they are not how are the sellers still in business?


Hi, I'm Patrick and I'm a completionist.

Chorus

HI PATRICK!

I too suffer from this evil affliction. I took a long break, like you, but mine was 1987-1997 or thereabouts. When I returned to the game 2E was right in the middle of publishing tons of stuff, and already HAD published tons of stuff. Also, World of Darkness was pumping out book after book after book.

I was in the military at the time, and freshly divorced. I ended up spending quite a bit of coin at the local FLGS. Then I discovered eBay...

I have choked back on these impulses, mainly because I really don't have the money to spend on them, but I do have a pretty fearsome collection. I think the only Planescape item I don't own is the conceptual sketch book (which one recently sold on eBay for like $2,000). I even have all the miniatures in the Ral Partha 11-6XX Planescape line (and the four mini box sets).

If I hit the lottery tomorrow, I am sure I would build a library and happily collect tons of D&D memorabilia. As it is, I enjoy the eight shelves of 1-3E D&D, Pathfinder, WoD 1-2E, I do have. As I once said to my wife: I could think of worse hobbies that are much more expensive and destructive, like barhopping.

As to your eBay question, people get what they can get. Most of these folks aren't pros, or semi-pro. I have often scratched my head on some prices, but I usually just laugh and move on. There's always another auction and you have to be patient and wait for the right item at the right price to show up.

Me I'm waiting for someone to put up some of the old Dragontooth giant miniatures. Been haunting sites for those for years :P


As I once said to my wife: I could think of worse hobbies that are much more expensive and destructive, like barhopping.

Don't knock barhopping...

GRU


GRU wrote:

As I once said to my wife: I could think of worse hobbies that are much more expensive and destructive, like barhopping.

Don't knock barhopping...

GRU

Oh I speak from many years experience in that field GRU. I WAS in the Army, after all, and I didn't spend all my free time rolling dice, if you know what I mean ... ;)

But, after all, at least with collecting RPGs you have something other than a hangover to show for your money spent ...

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[unasked for analysis]Hmmm ... both of you completionists took long breaks. Do you see your D&D collecting days as being better times? I took a long break from gaming as well and wonder if sometimes I'm trying to recover something lost during that time ...[/unasked for analysis]


To my actual questions.... How much do most gamers actually collect? Do you keep your old books? How many lines of games do you follow?

I keep it pretty basic. I collect any all and every thing D&D. 1st-3.5 I must have it. Sorry I simply dont care for fourth.

Some of the stuff I know I will never use but I still want it to be in it's proper place according to edition,setting and release date on the appropriate case. I have one bookcase for each edition.
As far as how much is too much, as long as you not reduced to raman noodles more than once a week and you pay your bills then go for it. Mind you I dont have a spouse so from a single guy perspective thats my take on it.


Patrick Curtin wrote:
GRU wrote:

As I once said to my wife: I could think of worse hobbies that are much more expensive and destructive, like barhopping.

Don't knock barhopping...

GRU

Oh I speak from many years experience in that field GRU. I WAS in the Army, after all, and I didn't spend all my free time rolling dice, if you know what I mean ... ;)

But, after all, at least with collecting RPGs you have something other than a hangover to show for your money spent ...

There is that, off course...

myself, I just can't seem to let go off my old Advanced D&D books, though I KNOW that I'll never use them. With me it's more question of being sentimental.
I still got the red box - that was the first roleplaying game I ever bought, and I remember searching through the contents, looking for "the board". I was sure that there had to be one.

I'll never get rid of that red box, just can't...

far too sentimental-
GRU


Tarren Dei wrote:
[unasked for analysis]Hmmm ... both of you completionists took long breaks. Do you see your D&D collecting days as being better times? I took a long break from gaming as well and wonder if sometimes I'm trying to recover something lost during that time ...[/unasked for analysis]

I think there is that. Plus, I fell in love with the Planescape setting, just as TSR was winding it down. It took me two years to find all those pieces. I think any collector can go a little wonky when it comes to their addiction, whether it's RPG books, licence plates or commemorative thimbles.

Heck, I kept up with buying 3E books, despite not having a group, because I didn't want to be 'left behind' again...

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You know what my wife hates? The fact that I insist on buying books for games I know I will never play, just because they might inspire me in the games I do play. Yes, I am talking about Rifts.


David Fryer wrote:
You know what my wife hates? The fact that I insist on buying books for games I know I will never play, just because they might inspire me in the games I do play. Yes, I am talking about Rifts.

I did the same with GURPS. Never played it nor paid any attention to the mechanics. Purely for the fluff inspiration.


I'm a completionist, too.

Fortunately, I'm mostly contained to "newer" stuff - produced in the last decade or so, but, I started with my TSR Marvel Super Heroes collection...

I went on a buying binge to complete that collection, which ended a few years ago, only to discover that I had missed a module - fortunately, I was able to pick that up.

I'm still missing a couple issues of Polyhedron that have some MSH content in them, and I snag them when I find them cheap, but that particular flare-up subsided.

When things really got bad was in 2007, when it seemed pretty clear that 4E was coming out. I jumped on eBay and Amazon, and started filling out my 3E/3.5 collection, which then ended up extending to Forgotten Realms and Eberron. Once those were complete, I ended up building out the L5R collection (which was nice, because we actually played THAT setting), and I just completed my Dragonlance collection a couple weeks ago.

I've been buying up lots of D20 stuff here and there. I have a couple holes in my Spycraft 1st Edition section that I'm filling, I'm tracking down the last couple books for D20 SW.

Funny that you mention Saga Edition - I had pretty much decided that I wasn't going to get that, and then our GM running our D20 SW game pulled out a copy of Saga Starships of the Galaxy, we ended up scamming and scheming our way into an Imperial Customs Corvette.

I liked the book, and saw that it was pushing $90-$100 in a lot of cases online (WTH?), and ended up seeing a minty-fresh copy for cover price on my trip to Atlanta, so I snagged it.

Huuuuuuuge mistake, for the sickness. Now, I want to collect the rest of the Saga stuff. We're not playing Saga, we have no plans to play it, but I want the stuff - especially now when I see the Knights of the Old Republic book is selling for so much, as well - I have this urge to snag the stuff before it gets way too expensive.

I certainly won't pay that much for KOTOR, but I'll be opening my eyes to find it, like I found Starships.

Systems or collections I'm following/trying to complete right now include:

Spycraft 1st Edition
D20 Star Wars
True20
Encyclopaedia Arcane (Mongoose D20 stuff - I try to find them cheap)
Dungeon Magazine (holes in the collection from #82 - $150, the 3E/3.5 run)

and now

Star Wars Saga Edition

The Mongoose D20 Conan stuff isn't officially on my list, but I want it. As soon as I complete a couple of the above, I'll probably start looking that way. I also want all of the D20 Ravenloft stuff that was put out.

Heh, I really wish I was aware of KOTOR's pricing - I'm pretty sure I saw a copy new on a shelf at a store when I snagged my copy of Starships. ARGH!

As to your question of Amazon pricing - there's a couple reasons for that.

Spoiler:
If there's a lot of people with a copy for sale, yet all the prices are "high" (above cover, significantly above cover, TEN TIME ABOVE COVER), and it's not really a "rare" book, it's likely a vast majority of them are using automated pricing software that sets the price based on what other sellers are listing their copy for. I've confirmed this with a few of the sellers out there.

The problem is, there's a few sellers who you'll find their name regularly come up at the high end of these listings, and their price is apparently pulled from the nether regions. It seems that these guys, in a lot of cases, don't stock the product, but know where to find a copy (in many cases, from one of the more reasonably-priced sellers), and they're banking on someone paying THEM the high price, and, in turn, they'll purchase a cheaper copy, ship that to you, and profit on the transaction. I've seen a number of reports of this on the Amazon forums, and a number of complaints from people that actually ordered from these sellers, only to have the order cancelled because it's "not in stock" (they couldn't locate a copy/the cheaper copy had already been purchased and they never purged their high-price listing).

I saw this in action, when I was looking for a copy of Bloodspeakers for L5R. The only two copies on Amazon were for $100+. I sent both sellers a message with an offer on their copies, as it's not really a high-demand "rare" book, but also enquired as to how they set their prices. Both claimed to have based it on the other's price, neither were willing to haggle. That's fine. I watched the listing, and waited. Eventually a few more copies got listed, from $40 at the bottom, working their way up to the price of the first two sellers. When the cheaper copies got listed, before I snagged mine, a couple of the infamous "sky-high priced" sellers just happened to list copies at about $50 more than the previous high-prices. I bought my copy, the other less-expensive copies appeared to have been sold, and the super-high sellers listings disappeared. Amusingly, today, the only two people selling a copy of this book are the same two who were selling their copy when I originally started looking, and who didn't want to haggle.


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DM Phil wrote:
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I don't need no fancy theories and funny words, I just get in there and use straight talk and tough love. There's more than one way to kill a duck than by choking it to death with butter!

Scarab Sages

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I am also a completist...

I started in the first edition days about 1980. I was in the Army and did not have a lot of money back then. I did not buy mucyh during the second edition days because I was over seas for several years and there just was not alot available and it was before Amazon and Ebay and again money was tight.

A few years ago being retired and my business booming (not booming so much this year) I started buying TSR on ebay. And I started buying PDFs when I found them. Some of those were free on the WoTC site for several years, others I bought here at Paizo and some I found on other sites.

There were a lot of things I got into that I had not bought any of when they were released. I have taken a break in the past year from tracking down old 1e/2e stuff. I bought all the 3e/3.5e adventures as they came out and sent nuts in the early days of 3e with third party work (most of which I was disappointed in).

I still have some Planescape that I have not found for a price I am willing to pay and I would have to do some research to remember what it is (I had to create a spreadsheet to keep up with my buys or I would double buy things) and I have not started on Dark Sun at all. When I have those goodies I believe I have all the TSR work.

1st Edition
2nd Edition
3/3.5
Pathfinder
Conan D20 (both editions)

Being a completeist can be a hard road. And the answer is - Yes, we go too far.


I want to add Pathfinder.* to the list, but I can't yet! ARGH!!!

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Oh, goodness ... I, too, try to be a completionist, but if a company/game line manages to tick me off too much, then I have dropped 'em like a hot potato :)

My husband and I are both long time gamers. I began in 1978, he in 1982 ... so when we married, our gaming libraries also co-mingled ::chuckle::

On our shelves are the following mounds of gaming books (a few have gone into storage):

Dungeons and Dragons Books
D&D (little white box)
AD&D First Edition
***Core Books, Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk, Ravenloft, Dragonlance, lots of Modules
AD&D Second Edition
***Core Books, Battle System, Forgotten Realms (lots!), Ravenloft, Al Qadim, Spelljammer, Greyhawk, Dragonlance, Dark Sun, Complete Handbooks Series, DMG Series (Blue Books), Historical Reference Series, Encyclopedia Magica, Spell Compendiums (Wizard and Priest)
AD&D Third Edition
***Forgotten Realms (small selection of 3.0 books)
AD&D Additions: RoleAids, Grimtooth's Traps, City Books, eclectic selection of 3e books by other companies (AEG, SSS, FFG, Green Ronin, Mongoose, etc.)
PATHFINDER!
***Everything to date :)

Other Systems
Hero System
Champions: 2e, 3e, 4e, 5e, New Millenium (bleah!)
Fantasy Hero, Star Hero, Justice Inc, Dark Champions, etc.
Shadowrun
First Edition (I think all of it), Second Edition (most), Some Third Edition
World of Darkness
Vampire (1e, 2e), Werewolf (2e), Changeling (1e, 2e), Mage (1e, 2e), Wraith, some of the mix world books, and some of the current edition, only trying to be complete on Changeling

Earthdawn, Thieves' World, Runequest, Mutants and Masterminds, d20 Modern, Cyberpunk (1st and 2nd), BattleTech, Gurps, Traveller (1e), Fading Suns, WarHammer (Fantasy and 40k), DragonStar, GammaWorld, Star Frontiers, Alternity, Star Wars, Star Trek, Hackmaster, Lord of the Rings, MERPS, L5R, 7th Sea, Conan, Serenity, Paranoia (1e, 2e), TMNT, Paladium, Macho Women with Guns, FireBorn, Call of Cthulhu, Everquest ...

There's more, I'm sure, but that's a good sampling :)


BSSB wrote:
How much do most gamers actually collect? Do you keep your old books? How many lines of games do you follow?

I have way too much stuff which I’ve kept until now. I followed lots of lines.

I’ve gradually been selling stuff on ebay since August. I’d love to get rid of all the RPG-related stuff (excluding some Pathfinder books), as I don’t want the old items any more. They take up too much space and I want to move on.

I’ll be posting in the Gamer Life sub-forum when I next list the items, if that helps you. I’ll be listing close to 500 gaming-related items and 93 CDs.

BSSB wrote:
One more question...how the heck do market prices get set for OOP rpg books?

Well I consider Amazon prices to be nuts. Occasionally you might find a good price, but that’s rare.

When pricing my items, I did a lot of research, by looking at various shops (Noble Knight, Troll & Toad, etc) and ebay prices. Some things have sold; most haven’t so far, but may be because nobody’s seen the items yet, or they don’t want to pay my minimum prices.


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Tarren Dei wrote:
[unasked for analysis]Hmmm ... both of you completionists took long breaks. Do you see your D&D collecting days as being better times? I took a long break from gaming as well and wonder if sometimes I'm trying to recover something lost during that time ...[/unasked for analysis]

I definately think your on to something here. As much as everyone here seems to love 3.5, I have only a couple 3.5 books and only because they were given to me. I don't associate 3.5 with the heady days of youth because it came out during my absence from role playing and I have little desire to purchase it. I do purchase the books that link up with elements of 2e however... so I have all the forgotten realms fluff books as well as the "expedition to" series

My little brother destroyed my Star Wars toy collection when I was a kid. I came home from school in the 2nd grade to find it all destroyed....ransacked.... pieces everywhere. Han Solo was in 2 pieces! For god sakes we found yoda in some shrubbery outside the house 6 years later....

Maybe I need to start collecting star wars toys and right that wrong from 1984 also...


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Patrick Curtin wrote:
I think the only Planescape item I don't own is the conceptual sketch book (which one recently sold on eBay for like $2,000).

Nooooo! Patrick, what have you done!? I didn't know this existed.... thought....had.....everything.....from....Planescape....

Now I must buy....


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David Fryer wrote:
You know what my wife hates? The fact that I insist on buying books for games I know I will never play, just because they might inspire me in the games I do play. Yes, I am talking about Rifts.

people have a lot of trouble understanding that... well I do worse, I buy books that I have absolutely no intention of reading. Sometimes I just enjoy flipping through them but no one seems to get that....

I really think my whole completionist urge boils down to the fact that I don't want anyone to take these books away from me. I know that sounds strange but its a sad fact of my life that I ain't rich. When out of the blue, online sellers decide a book is rare! in demand! the escalating price tends to exceeds what I can pay or maybe what I am willing to pay. I can't buy the book and it angers me. So my goal is to buy up the books now so I am never faced with that situation. Back when WOTC had a slew of nice affordable pdf's I wasn't as concerned.

In all reality the entire reason I bought into pathfinder was because in 2008 I believe....the Skinsaw Murders went out of print and was going for ridiculous prices online, so I tracked one down at a semi local game store, and here I am today...

Dark Archive

Try Noble Knight games.

They're AWESOME!


~starts to laugh hysterically and slowly backs away from this thread, fearing for what little of my sanity that is left~

Liberty's Edge

Mikhaila Burnett wrote:

Try Noble Knight games.

They're AWESOME!

What... have... you... DONE!!!

*shakes fist*

Dark Archive

Gene wrote:

What... have... you... DONE!!!

*shakes fist*

It's called enabling. I'm really good at it. *grins*

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Blood stained Sunday's best wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
I think the only Planescape item I don't own is the conceptual sketch book (which one recently sold on eBay for like $2,000).

Nooooo! Patrick, what have you done!? I didn't know this existed.... thought....had.....everything.....from....Planescape....

Now I must buy....

So it's not just me then...

Dark Archive

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To a point, I am also like Gamer Girrl in that if a company ticks me off thats it. I just stop buying anything from them. White Wolf did that to me.

So far there has only been a few games i felt that way about or perhaps i should say companies. White Wolf World of Darkness(the old one) Mage, Vamp and werewolf I got all of them. In Nomina by Steve Jackson games. And now finally Paizo Pathfinder stuff.

Other than that I tend to just buy books that interest me, but I am bad for impulse gaming buying. If I see a book and it sparks a creative thought I tend to buy them.

I would likely make some cry here, but at one point I had several collections of old tsr collections of DnD from the mid 70's to late 80's, often 3-4 copies of each books. How and or why you might be wondering? Simple my much older half brother was into DnD big in that time as was his friends. Then slowly they all stopped playing and as they did they gave their books to each other and my half brother was the last of the group and he ended up giving me all the books when he stopped.

I told them all back at the height of 3e and bought a nice car with the money.


I too have about 8-10 shelves worth of RPG books. Last year I had my wife buy me a TON of Cthulhu books. I almost started the Conan d20 books then I stopped. I just realized that I have enough books between 2ed, 3.5, Conan, OwoD and Cthulhu to run game once a week every week for the next 40 years. I could not possibly use everything so my urge to buy buy buy vanished :-) (Plus I am trying to save for a house).

My wife rarely complains about what I buy so I suppose I am lucky there.


I'm on the phone waiting for someone to pick up. Doesn't anyone want HELP? Either fish or cut bait!


...I...just placed the orders that fill out my Spycraft 1st Edition and D20 Star Wars collections.

And...I just located a copy of KOTOR for Saga for $32, and will have it on Thursday.

I also may have inadvertently ordered something for Spycraft 2.0, thinking it was for 1st Edition. Now I have to debate on whether or not to return it, or keep it for my new Spycraft 2.0 collection.

(I *did* try to cancel it out of my order before it shipped, I swear! T&T told me that it was too late, but that if it was for Spycraft 2.0 and I didn't want to keep it, they'd send me a return tag and refund me.)

MUAHAHAHAHAHAH!


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Brian E. Harris wrote:


And...I just located a copy of KOTOR for Saga for $32, and will have it on Thursday.

out of curiosity....where did you get it from?


Dark_Mistress wrote:

To a point, I am also like Gamer Girrl in that if a company ticks me off thats it. I just stop buying anything from them. White Wolf did that to me.

So far there has only been a few games i felt that way about or perhaps i should say companies. White Wolf World of Darkness(the old one) Mage, Vamp and werewolf I got all of them. In Nomina by Steve Jackson games. And now finally Paizo Pathfinder stuff.

Other than that I tend to just buy books that interest me, but I am bad for impulse gaming buying. If I see a book and it sparks a creative thought I tend to buy them.

I would likely make some cry here, but at one point I had several collections of old tsr collections of DnD from the mid 70's to late 80's, often 3-4 copies of each books. How and or why you might be wondering? Simple my much older half brother was into DnD big in that time as was his friends. Then slowly they all stopped playing and as they did they gave their books to each other and my half brother was the last of the group and he ended up giving me all the books when he stopped.

I told them all back at the height of 3e and bought a nice car with the money.

I'm in that boat as well...I haven't bought anything from Wizards since the a4venture fiasco...not even useful things like the dungeon tiles...

Earthdawn is the only Completionist thing I have really fallen to, I have a full set of 1e Earthdawn.

And NICE! Glad those old books got you a car...kickazz!

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Sharoth wrote:
~starts to laugh hysterically and slowly backs away from this thread, fearing for what little of my sanity that is left~

Sanity, is that what you are carrying around in the little brown paper bag with you?

Dark Archive

*sigh* I was once like the OP and many of you. Collecting all this and all that. Then my luck ran out and life sucked for a long time. I was "rolling pennies for gas broke". So, I sold it all to Half Price Books. Got $500 for over $4000 of books.

And my best friend bought most of them and asked why I didn't try to sell them to him FIRST, he'd've given me more.

*mutter*

Ever since then, I've been cautious about the urge to get em all.

Liberty's Edge

I, too, am a completist; but I discriminate along the way in terms of grading and am not terribly interested in the rare editions of books containing typos of misplaced commas and extra letters.

I collect books of all types, especially Lovecraftiana, but D&D is one of my diehard specializations. I maintain a checklist, as well, of all known TSR and WotC products up to v3.5.

I not only collect the books (and pamphlets and papers and folders and...), but actually reacquire books as I discover finer-grade copies.

Luckily, my wife is supportive and even helpful, going out of her way on trips to visit book shops.

I took an hiatus for around seven years simply because I was very financially strapped.

My RPG-related completist obsessions:

-TSR and WotC D&D to v3.5
-All Call of Cthulhu products by Chaosium
-All Warhammer (including variations, such as 40k) products

For books, I am an Arkham House completist.

The only completist obsession I fully gave up, to the joy of my wife, was McFarlane Spawn figures and D&D miniatures, both of which my wife saw as just a step above childish.

Luckily, she has no problem with modeling and miniatures painting (Warhammer and Iron Kingdoms, for example), which she sees as detail-oriented and rather serene.


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Andrew Turner wrote:


Luckily, my wife is supportive and even helpful, going out of her way on trips to visit book shops.

my wife is thankfully getting better.... I somehow married the only person in the world who has never seen a star wars movie.... none of the franchise. "They look silly," she says.

When I call around to different game stores cross the country looking for books she now indulges in our newest game - "Name That Game Store Employee." There are a staggering number of Lances working at rpg shops


Blood stained Sunday's best wrote:
Brian E. Harris wrote:


And...I just located a copy of KOTOR for Saga for $32, and will have it on Thursday.

out of curiosity....where did you get it from?

Local-ish store, used (but supposedly "Excellent Shape!") copy.


I was a D&D completionist. And then I completed. Now my life is a suckling descent. An eternal horseback trot through snapping gray leaves, past windswept battle soot. This the ill belly of consumerism limbo. The bookworms here never stop growing! I see them - long as constrictors - sizing me from branches overhead.

SAVE YOURSELVES

By... releasing your shackles and forcing your entire RPG collections upon me. It's too late for this broken veteran of a life lived blindly, but if my sacrifice might spare your soul, I offer it willingly. You need but ask and I'll reveal my email address and we can proceed from there.

I'm really proud of you for deciding to do this. This is good. You're thinking straight for the first time in a long time.


The Jade wrote:

By... releasing your shackles and forcing your entire RPG collections upon me. It's too late for this broken veteran of a life lived blindly, but if my sacrifice might spare your soul, I offer it willingly. You need but ask and I'll reveal my email address and we can proceed from there.

I'm really proud of you for deciding to do this. This is good. You're thinking straight for the first time in a long time.

Jade, thank you for shouldering this huge burden. I already feel so much lighter. Please post up your address so I can begin shipping you my 30-year-old collection of RPG memorabilia. You have taken the scales from my eyes, all these books, miniatures and magazines are chains binding my spirit. You should be commended for making such a huge sacrifice. My Dragon, White Dwarf(Pre Warhammer), Kobold Quarterly, and Dungeon collections will arrive first, since I already have them stored in 15 archival boxes and those will be easy to ship. After that the various RPG box sets (natch) and I guess the boxed Grenadier and Pal Partha minis. Oh so many things to divest from my soul!


The Jade wrote:

hornin' in

Psst...hey buddy (points up to previous posts)
I'm workin this side of the forum. Can't you see I've been patiently setting this very thing up?

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The Jade wrote:

I was a D&D completionist. And then I completed. Now my life is a suckling descent. An eternal horseback trot through snapping gray leaves, past windswept battle soot. This the ill belly of consumerism limbo. The bookworms here never stop growing! I see them - long as constrictors - sizing me from branches overhead.

SAVE YOURSELVES

By... releasing your shackles and forcing your entire RPG collections upon me. It's too late for this broken veteran of a life lived blindly, but if my sacrifice might spare your soul, I offer it willingly. You need but ask and I'll reveal my email address and we can proceed from there.

I'm really proud of you for deciding to do this. This is good. You're thinking straight for the first time in a long time.

*Ships crates of unopened Dragon Dice to Jade*


Patrick Curtin wrote:
The Jade wrote:

By... releasing your shackles and forcing your entire RPG collections upon me. It's too late for this broken veteran of a life lived blindly, but if my sacrifice might spare your soul, I offer it willingly. You need but ask and I'll reveal my email address and we can proceed from there.

I'm really proud of you for deciding to do this. This is good. You're thinking straight for the first time in a long time.

Jade, thank you for shouldering this huge burden. I already feel so much lighter. Please post up your address so I can begin shipping you my 30-year-old collection of RPG memorabilia. You have taken the scales from my eyes, all these books, miniatures and magazines are chains binding my spirit. You should be commended for making such a huge sacrifice. My Dragon, White Dwarf(Pre Warhammer), Kobold Quarterly, and Dungeon collections will arrive first, since I already have them stored in 15 archival boxes and those will be easy to ship. After that the various RPG box sets (natch) and I guess the boxed Grenadier and Pal Partha minis. Oh so many things to divest from my soul!

I understand Patrick, and you need neither thank me nor feel guilty. I can finish out my life is this pit without pity, but despite misery's love of company and the coldness and isolation of being alone down here I simply cannot allow a friend to join me. I'll send you all my info through email and then we can start the healing.


DM Phil wrote:
The Jade wrote:

hornin' in

Psst...hey buddy (points up to previous posts)
I'm workin this side of the forum. Can't you see I've been patiently setting this very thing up?

I'm sorry, DM Phil, I'm at the end of the road you're traveling and you don't want to try and finish this journey. I've been like you, man. I did anything I could for a fix. Just one more pick-your-path adventure book... betraying friends just to get a seventh copy of the mono print Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan. You don't even ask yourself why you need a seventh, you just feel the irresistible tug to ruin all the lives around you with a selfish, inexcusable thirst for RPG acquisition. Are you trying to hold onto something from youth... something lost? Your memories will always be there for you, and owning awful and best buried modules you never even read back then like Z7 Nunnery of Dead Queen Blithery Bloo is not going to mend a broken childhood. I promise you that.

So, finish your clever angle, DM Phil. See it through to the end. But then when you're surrounded by a fortress of yellowing pages and the more pleasing hues of fantasy art covers, feel the sting of knowing what you had to do to get it, and then ask yourself if anything requiring deception will ever truly satisfy you in the long run. A wise man named Mairkurion taught me that although joy may stretch out grandly to please others, as if itself a blossom experiencing helianthus, it always roots within. Find the roots of your joy, brother. And send me all your sh!t.


Callous Jack wrote:
*Ships crates of unopened Dragon Dice to Jade*

You know you're going to go and restore my faith in human nature, Jack. <sniff>

And in the spot where this crate once sat, install a spare cot and take in a friend during tough times, or bring the outside in and bestow a place in the window-filtered sun to a pot of English ivy. Or just leave it bare and ruminate on the bliss of having empty space - a luxury far greater than any collection in this world of extrinsic and intrinsic clutter. Something we so easily forget.

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The Jade wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
*Ships crates of unopened Dragon Dice to Jade*

You know you're going to go and restore my faith in human nature, Jack. <sniff>

And in the spot where this crate once sat, install a spare cot and take in a friend during tough times, or bring the outside in and bestow a place in the window-filtered sun to a pot of English ivy. Or just leave it bare and ruminate on the bliss of having empty space - a luxury far greater than any collection in this world of extrinsic and intrinsic clutter. Something we so easily forget.

Thanks Jade but no English ivy for me. Mairkurion is a lousy roommate.

Did I mention Lorraine Williams was in one of those crates?


I'll be more than happy to start shipping you the core rules and supplements to my collection of "GRAVEL: THE CRUSHING" RPG when you post your address.

Flat Rate Priority Mail boxes are going to get a workout!

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Brian E. Harris wrote:

I'll be more than happy to start shipping you the core rules and supplements to my collection of "GRAVEL: THE CRUSHING" RPG when you post your address.

Ooooooh, I wanna play a 1st level limestone Gravelier!


Callous Jack wrote:
Brian E. Harris wrote:

I'll be more than happy to start shipping you the core rules and supplements to my collection of "GRAVEL: THE CRUSHING" RPG when you post your address.

Ooooooh, I wanna play a 1st level limestone Gravelier!

NICE.

Sounds like Brian is taking that game for granite.


@ Blood Stained Sunday's Best. My wife never saw the movies either until I sat her down to watch them all. Surprisingly she didn't hate them its "just not her thing". This from the woman that watches so much reality TV show garbage I just want to vomit. :-(
She does enjoy some of the super hero action movies though so not all hope is lost.

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The Jade wrote:

NICE.

Sounds like Brian is taking that game for granite.

Not if he doesn't want to kick the gaming habit and start over with a clean slate. I'd chalk that up to good sense otherwise the next addiction is just a stone's throw away.

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