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Obama wins the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

BBC News wrote:

US President Barack Obama has been awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.

The Nobel Committee said he won it for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples".

The committee highlighted Mr Obama's efforts to support international bodies and promote nuclear disarmament.

Mr Obama's spokesman said the president was "humbled" to have won the prize. He said he woke Mr Obama up when he called with the news early on Friday.

Incredibly impressive this. The Nobel Committee made it clear that it was for Obama's intentions, rather then his actions so far, but I'm sure we all hope he can follow through on his intentions and make the world a more peaceful place.

Silver Crusade

Yeah, I like Obama as much as anybody reasonably could, but when I turned on the news this morning, I couldn't help saying... "WTF? He hasn't done anything yet." *shrug*

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i think that is pretty lame. You should only win for what you've done, not for what you say you will do. Honestly, this seems like *$! kissing on the part of the committee. I don't dislike Obama, but I don't think he should have gotten the prize for what he might do at some point in the future. It is kind of like giving someone a million dollars because they might win the lottery.

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Disclaimer: I don't like Obama.

That said, yes, I'd like a world without nukes, and everyone to have a unicorn that farts rainbows. Can I have a Nobel prize now? My intentions are good.

Edit: Not bad, winning a peace prize for 10 days work

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Disclaimer: I like Obama.

This is pretty lame. Obama hasn't earned this prize and may not. We have no way of knowing what Obama's record is going to be in regards to war and peace. I won't be surprised if when Obama leaves office, the situation is remarkably similar to what it is now.


Man, that's great!
The Nobel Peace Prize is a great honor. And the American President won it.

Good news for America. The rest of the world seems like it's starting to hate us less.


I don't know, he has already done a hell of a lot to push issues. For instance, the UK's recent decision to slash its nuclier submarine program is atleast in part down to the Obama, as it is being used to 'set an example' to iran, ahead of talks starting.

He has openned up talks with Iran, moving america away from the Irans the next target stance it was previously in.

He is working toward the closure of the Guantanamo bay detention center.

I don't think it is fair to say the man has done nothing.

That said, nobel prize worthy? I don't know. I think i'd rather focus on the nobel prizes that really matter, rather than the peace prize.


Tarren Dei wrote:

Disclaimer: I like Obama.

This is pretty lame. Obama hasn't earned this prize and may not. We have no way of knowing what Obama's record is going to be in regards to war and peace. I won't be surprised if when Obama leaves office, the situation is remarkably similar to what it is now.

And that wouldn't neccissarily be his fault either. The way Bush screwed things up, it is entirely possible it will take another ten years to clean things up.

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I need to make a point of watching Fox News tonight just so I can watch all the heads exploding... :)_


Word. Hahahaha.

Americans could certainly do worse than Obama, but this is whacked. Priceless.


Premature? Definitely

Still, it could have been Bono. (not sure if that's better or worse)


I voted for Obama and while I think there are things he could have done better so far, I have yet to regret voting for him and I like him. Maybe in a decade he would have earned a Nobel prize, but I think there were a lot of worthwhile people that were overlooked. To steal Nicholas Kristof's choices: Dr. Denis Mukwege, who has done a lot of work in Western Congo (rape capital of the world) or Greg Mortenson, who has built schools to educate women and children in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Scarab Sages

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironic that President Obama is given the Nobel Peace Prize on the same day that the United States (in the person of NASA) is attacking the moon.

It was probably inevitable that President Obama would win the prize at some point. But aren't Europeans against preemption?

Spoiler:
On a more serious note, I just consider this one more example of how the Nobel Prize has become pretty worthless.

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Aberzombie wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironic that President Obama is given the Nobel Peace Prize on the same day that the United States (in the person of NASA) is attacking the moon.

It was probably inevitable that President Obama would win the prize at some point. But aren't Europeans against preemption?

** spoiler omitted **

Wow Aberzombie, do you read The Corner at National Review too?

Just a funny case of parallel development.

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Celestial Healer wrote:
Yeah, I like Obama as much as anybody reasonably could, but when I turned on the news this morning, I couldn't help saying... "WTF? He hasn't done anything yet." *shrug*

THANKYOU.

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Chef's Slaad wrote:

Premature? Definitely

Still, it could have been Bono. (not sure if that's better or worse)

I think it would have been better. I don't agree with everything Bono does, but he's pretty passionate, consistant, and has no qualms about building coalitions.

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Zombieneighbours wrote:
I think i'd rather focus on the nobel prizes that really matter, rather than the peace prize.

Like the Nobel prize for humour?

Scarab Sages

Matthew Morris wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironic that President Obama is given the Nobel Peace Prize on the same day that the United States (in the person of NASA) is attacking the moon.

It was probably inevitable that President Obama would win the prize at some point. But aren't Europeans against preemption?

** spoiler omitted **

Wow Aberzombie, do you read The Corner at National Review too?

Just a funny case of parallel development.

Yep, that's where I got it from. I thought that was funny as hell. I also like the comment they showed from a reader:

Any chance we can get Kanye West to attend the ceremony for the Nobel Peace Prize. Talk about a time for him to step up.

Edit: I've also noticed the idea that he should turn it down and recommend someone else more deserving. I'd have more respect for him if he did that.

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Aberzombie wrote:
Edit: I've also noticed the idea that he should turn it down and recommend someone else more deserving. I'd have more respect for him if he did that.

I would actually be impressed if he did that.

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Aberzombie wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironic that President Obama is given the Nobel Peace Prize on the same day that the United States (in the person of NASA) is attacking the moon.

It was probably inevitable that President Obama would win the prize at some point. But aren't Europeans against preemption?

It appears that the US has similar plans for mars.

Scarab Sages

Who'd have thought that NASA was filled with a bunch of warmongers, eager to attack innocent celestial bodies.


I believe this shouldn't have been posted, however I will answer this thread in my most humble opinion.

It is too early for Obama to have won this prize and for the reasons why except may be for the attempt to have more peaceful relations with the Muslim world which perhaps given the radical Muslim historical record maybe impossible. As for the financial crisis - a big BUZZER.

I am not affiliated with either the Democrats nor the Republicans because I feel they have no true interest in the US other than for their own personal gain and have no such thoughts of maintaining the US community which is obvious by the current polarization of our own citizens. No one is allowed to openly debate on both sides and each side censors each other which in the end only hurts our nation. If I was one of our founding fathers, I would be surprise and happy that we have made it thus far, and angry and sad of our current direction to a has been.

So yes, I did not vote for Obama nor did I vote for McCain. My hope lies in an up and coming political party to deliver us or at the very least myself from dread.

If I was Obama, I would humbly decline and ask them to wait and see what I can do because everything is still in motion and my plans are not fully realized. If he did that, then I would think him to be an honorable man. Alas, it may just be hopeful wishing. I just don't think the results are in and it is way too early to award such a prestigious award. In other words, I think they are making a mockery out of the award and setting not only the Nobel committee up for failure but Mr. Obama as well.

I am open to a cool debate like I have with my two political party relatives and I will throw the flag down if anyone gets hostile.


Aberzombie wrote:
Who'd have thought that NASA was filled with a bunch of warmongers, eager to attack innocent celestial bodies.

Zombie your sarcasm and love for fresh flesh has me rolling.

At least, they didn't nuke it... lol

Scarab Sages

Ouch! A funny WaPo editorial.


Aberzombie wrote:
Ouch! A funny WaPo editorial.

LOL - a great comparison.

Scarab Sages

As has also been pointed out elsewhere, it's ironic that the President gets this prize just a few days after he declined to meet with the Dali Lama.


Aberzombie wrote:
As has also been pointed out elsewhere, it's ironic that the President gets this prize just a few days after he declined to meet with the Dali Lama.

Really! Oh that is major no no. It just appears Obama is bowing down to the Chinese with the flag in DC and now this with the Dali Lama - all bad mojo.

I wonder if members of the IOC are on the Noble Peace Prize committee and felt bad that Chicago didn't get the summer games?

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Anderlorn wrote:
I wonder if members of the IOC are on the Noble Peace Prize committee and felt bad that Chicago didn't get the summer games?

That is the very first thing that crossed my mine when I first saw the headline.

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Tarren Dei wrote:

Disclaimer: I like Obama.

This is pretty lame. Obama hasn't earned this prize and may not. We have no way of knowing what Obama's record is going to be in regards to war and peace. I won't be surprised if when Obama leaves office, the situation is remarkably similar to what it is now.

Agreed, way too soon. They should have at least wait for the end of one term, as it is, it's kinda comical to get it this early.


Xuttah wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:
I think i'd rather focus on the nobel prizes that really matter, rather than the peace prize.
Like the Nobel prize for humour?

Physics, Chemistry and Physiology or Medicine(though i wish it where more generally awarded for discoveries in biological science than specificially medicine and Physiology) I also kind of think that this year, the prize should have posthumously awarded to Charles Darwin for his work on the theory of evolution by natural selection.


Eh, nevermind.

I was gonna say something, but just like every time I go to post in a political thread here, I remember that because of how radical my beliefs are, anything I have to say will almost certainly start a flame-war, or at least some extremely heated arguing.

Such is the life of an anarchist.


I was quite certain this was a joke when I heard it on Walton & Johnson this morning.

I mean, really. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, as is the road to the Nobel Peace Prize... appearantly.

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Xuttah wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironic that President Obama is given the Nobel Peace Prize on the same day that the United States (in the person of NASA) is attacking the moon.

It was probably inevitable that President Obama would win the prize at some point. But aren't Europeans against preemption?

It appears that the US has similar plans for mars.

Attacking a planet named after the God of War? That's just crazy! The martians have been so good to us since that little misunderstanding in '38. Damn. I want off earth now.


ChrisRevocateur wrote:

Eh, nevermind.

I was gonna say something, but just like every time I go to post in a political thread here, I remember that because of how radical my beliefs are, anything I have to say will almost certainly start a flame-war, or at least some extremely heated arguing.

Such is the life of an anarchist.

Post and discuss. I would personally love to hear your views. I will ofcause debate them, but if your not prepared to defend your views, its probably best to reconsider them.


Anderlorn wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Ouch! A funny WaPo editorial.

LOL - a great comparison.

I find it funny that there is still a deep seated need to take stabs at Palin, but good piece.

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Zombieneighbours wrote:
Physics, Chemistry and Physiology or Medicine(though i wish it where more generally awarded for discoveries in biological science than specificially medicine and Physiology) I also kind of think that this year, the prize should have posthumously awarded to Charles Darwin for his work on the theory of evolution by natural selection.

I think there should be Nobel Prizes for much more important things:

Art
Cooking
Baking
Textile Arts
Carpentry
Best Livestock
Best Produce
Largest Pumpkin

If people were recognized globally for these sort of things, the world would be a much better place.

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Tarren Dei wrote:


Attacking a planet named after the God of War? That's just crazy! The martians have been so good to us since that little misunderstanding in '38. Damn. I want off earth now.

Yeah, but it's gotta be done before the Chinese or the Russians do it first!


Tarren Dei wrote:
Xuttah wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironic that President Obama is given the Nobel Peace Prize on the same day that the United States (in the person of NASA) is attacking the moon.

It was probably inevitable that President Obama would win the prize at some point. But aren't Europeans against preemption?

It appears that the US has similar plans for mars.
Attacking a planet named after the God of War? That's just crazy! The martians have been so good to us since that little misunderstanding in '38. Damn. I want off earth now.

I have a little get away space station located at Jupiters L4. We have a collection of fine wines, good food and a botanical garden that rivals the amazon for bio-diversity, your welcome to borrow it until 2012, when i will need it back.


Xuttah wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:
Physics, Chemistry and Physiology or Medicine(though i wish it where more generally awarded for discoveries in biological science than specificially medicine and Physiology) I also kind of think that this year, the prize should have posthumously awarded to Charles Darwin for his work on the theory of evolution by natural selection.

I think there should be Nobel Prizes for much more important things:

Art
Cooking
Baking
Textile Arts
Carpentry
Best Livestock
Best Produce
Largest Pumpkin

If people were recognized globally for these sort of things, the world would be a much better place.

Art is already kind of covered by the litarature prize. Personally i disagree, i think actually, higher levels of scientific literacy and the attendant lower levels of theism really would be far better for the world than a nobel prize in baking

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Back to the OP, but this seems a little premature, to say the least. He's, um, fighting a war right now.


Bah, 2012 is just the beginning of the 4th age of man. Tolkien already knew this ... :-)


ChrisRevocateur wrote:

Eh, nevermind.

I was gonna say something, but just like every time I go to post in a political thread here, I remember that because of how radical my beliefs are, anything I have to say will almost certainly start a flame-war, or at least some extremely heated arguing.

Such is the life of an anarchist.

Post away but just be open to a cool open debate. Don't get hostile... :)

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Zombieneighbours wrote:


Art is already kind of covered by the litarature prize. Personally i disagree, i think actually, higher levels of scientific literacy and the attendant lower levels of theism really would be far better for the world than a nobel prize in baking

Sounds like you have an anti-baked goods agenda, but as long as you recognize the value of the Nobel Prize for the Largest Pumpkin, we're good.

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Zombieneighbours wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:
Xuttah wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironic that President Obama is given the Nobel Peace Prize on the same day that the United States (in the person of NASA) is attacking the moon.

It was probably inevitable that President Obama would win the prize at some point. But aren't Europeans against preemption?

It appears that the US has similar plans for mars.
Attacking a planet named after the God of War? That's just crazy! The martians have been so good to us since that little misunderstanding in '38. Damn. I want off earth now.
I have a little get away space station located at Jupiters L4. We have a collection of fine wines, good food and a botanical garden that rivals the amazon for bio-diversity, your welcome to borrow it until 2012, when i will need it back.

Um, yeah, listen ... about that. You left the key under the mat so I figured you wouldn't mind ... I had a bit of a party there in 1993-1995. We drank the wine, accidentally broke the fridge (spoiling the food), and dag up your entire garden to grow OTHER STUFF (which we ended up forgetting to plant seeds for). Sorry.


I do have one question about throwing rockets at the moon and mars. Why not make them remote control and see if you can actually land something man size remotely. Has NASA digress that much over the last decade? It's easy to hit a bfp or satellite with a rocket - we already have proven we can both shoot something and even land something. Stop f******* the moon and mars and do something constructive - IMHO of course.


Tarren Dei wrote:
Zombieneighbours wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:
Xuttah wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironic that President Obama is given the Nobel Peace Prize on the same day that the United States (in the person of NASA) is attacking the moon.

It was probably inevitable that President Obama would win the prize at some point. But aren't Europeans against preemption?

It appears that the US has similar plans for mars.
Attacking a planet named after the God of War? That's just crazy! The martians have been so good to us since that little misunderstanding in '38. Damn. I want off earth now.
I have a little get away space station located at Jupiters L4. We have a collection of fine wines, good food and a botanical garden that rivals the amazon for bio-diversity, your welcome to borrow it until 2012, when i will need it back.
Um, yeah, listen ... about that. You left the key under the mat so I figured you wouldn't mind ... I had a bit of a party there in 1993-1995. We drank the wine, accidentally broke the fridge (spoiling the food), and dag up your entire garden to grow OTHER STUFF (which we ended up forgetting to plant seeds for). Sorry.

Mmm....well I guess i only need to go their for a year, to escape the loonies back here on earth....maybe i can replant....this time with a beautiful range of entirely new, artificial bioforms that will think of me as their god...*Wanders off planning child sized praying mantis with complex societies who like to grow man eating pumpins. Atleast i still have the earth L5 construct with the nanite intelligence program.


Zombieneighbours wrote:
ChrisRevocateur wrote:

Eh, nevermind.

I was gonna say something, but just like every time I go to post in a political thread here, I remember that because of how radical my beliefs are, anything I have to say will almost certainly start a flame-war, or at least some extremely heated arguing.

Such is the life of an anarchist.

Post and discuss. I would personally love to hear your views. I will of course debate them, but if your not prepared to defend your views, its probably best to reconsider them.

I don't think it's possible for a politician to honestly earn the peace prize. First off, almost all of their "solutions" are just patches put on a broken system. Second, anything that they do actually get done is destroyed by the wheeling and dealing necessary to grease the machine, too much compromise, too little result. Third, and foremost, for every action of peace that a politician, especially a world leader, does, he does something that equals or exceeds it in the opposite direction.

Now, on the particular case of Obama, even if he doesn't fall into these categories (which I doubt he doesn't), it's still FAR too early to actually tell if he has, or will do anything of substance to contribute to peace.

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Tarren Dei wrote:
Um, yeah, listen ... about that. You left the key under the mat so I figured you wouldn't mind ... I had a bit of a party there in 1993-1995. We drank the wine, accidentally broke the fridge (spoiling the food), and dag up your entire garden to grow OTHER STUFF (which we ended up forgetting to plant seeds for). Sorry.

It's like a bull in a china shop except it's now a, uh... space station.

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Anderlorn wrote:
I do have one question about throwing rockets at the moon and mars. Why not make them remote control and see if you can actually land something man size remotely. Has NASA digress that much over the last decade? It's easy to hit a bfp or satellite with a rocket - we already have proven we can both shoot something and even land something. Stop f******* the moon and mars and do something constructive - IMHO of course.

Time lag and signal glitches - it is better to automate the landing system rather than feed information back to an operator on Earth.

Yes, easy to hit a BFP - harder to hit it exactly where and when you want. Like Beagle2: delivered spot-on in X and Y and sadly a little too deep in Z.

Re Obama: I think that the award is partially along the lines of ensuring follow-through on the good intentions.

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