Power attack


Rules Questions


I want to be sure of one thing. a fighter, with a greatsword, BA +10, can make an attack with -3 to the attack roll and + 9 to the damage, that's it ?

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

-2 to hit and +6 to damage actually.


Gorbacz wrote:
-2 to hit and +6 to damage actually.

That is not when reach a BA of +4 and EACH +4 you gain -1/+2 ? so

BA +1: -1/+3
BA +4: -2/+6
BA +9: -3/+9 ?

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Gorbacz wrote:
-2 to hit and +6 to damage actually.

No, Sempai was correct. It's -1 and then an additional -1 per 4 of BAB.

PRD wrote:
When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every 4 points thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2.

Grand Lodge

Yes, a 10th level fighter wielding a two-handed weapon can PA for -3 to hit, +9 to damage.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Ooops. So I misread the feat all along. :) Thanks guys !!!


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sempai33 wrote:


That is not when reach a BA of +4 and EACH +4 you gain -1/+2 ? so
BA +1: -1/+3
BA +4: -2/+6
BA +9: -3/+9 ?

Actually, it is

BaB___Off-Hand___One-Handed__Two-Handed
+1______-1/+1_______-1/+2______-1/+3
+4______-2/+2_______-2/+4______-2/+6
+8______-3/+3_______-3/+6______-3/+9
+12_____-4/+4_______-4/+8______-4/+12
+16_____-5/+5_______-5/+10_____-5/+15
+20_____-6/+6_______-6/+12_____-6/+18

not BaB +9... otherwise, you are correct.


Can you choose to take a lesser value and not the full penalty? I can't seem to find an option for that in the feat. Looks like its all or nothing.


Dorje Sylas wrote:
Can you choose to take a lesser value and not the full penalty? I can't seem to find an option for that in the feat. Looks like its all or nothing.

Yeah, either use the feat and take the full penalty or don't use it and take no penalty. There's no decision on how much hit to lower.


The Wraith wrote:
sempai33 wrote:


That is not when reach a BA of +4 and EACH +4 you gain -1/+2 ? so
BA +1: -1/+3
BA +4: -2/+6
BA +9: -3/+9 ?

Actually, it is

BaB___Off-Hand___One-Handed__Two-Handed
+1______-1/+1_______-1/+2______-1/+3
+4______-2/+2_______-2/+4______-2/+6
+8______-3/+3_______-3/+6______-3/+9
+12_____-4/+4_______-4/+8______-4/+12
+16_____-5/+5_______-5/+10_____-5/+15
+20_____-6/+6_______-6/+12_____-6/+18

not BaB +9... otherwise, you are correct.

Just what I was looking for any it makes power attack alot better then I thought it was (I still liked 3.5 better)


Dot


PF Power Attack is a switch, not a dial. It's all or nothing.


The Wraith wrote:
sempai33 wrote:


That is not when reach a BA of +4 and EACH +4 you gain -1/+2 ? so
BA +1: -1/+3
BA +4: -2/+6
BA +9: -3/+9 ?

Actually, it is

BaB___Off-Hand___One-Handed__Two-Handed
+1______-1/+1_______-1/+2______-1/+3
+4______-2/+2_______-2/+4______-2/+6
+8______-3/+3_______-3/+6______-3/+9
+12_____-4/+4_______-4/+8______-4/+12
+16_____-5/+5_______-5/+10_____-5/+15
+20_____-6/+6_______-6/+12_____-6/+18

not BaB +9... otherwise, you are correct.

This chart is just what I'm looking for..how AWESOME!


So I know this is an old thread but I have a relevant question that I can not find the answer to. When you have multiple attacks for a full attack; say a Level 6 Paladin with BAB 6/1, and you power attack, does the -3 apply to both attacks, or is it a -3 for the first with +9 damage, and a -1 for the second with +3? (Assuming two handed weapon)

Liberty's Edge

The penalties and bonuses from power attack would be the same for both attacks, so -2 to attack and +6 to damage if you're 2handing. Your second attack also takes a -5 for being you second iterative attack, but doesn't affect how power attack penalties and bonuses work.


Power attack bonuses and penalties are the same for all attacks in a round, barring a feat/ability which changes it like Furious Focus.

Assuming a two handed weapon you would take a -2 penalty with a +6 to damage. You do not take a -3 to hit for +9 damage yet because your BAB is not high enough. You need a BAB of 8 for that.

BAB ≠ to hit.


the panilties yes. the bonus no. two weapon fighting clearly shows that. you get the -1 to attack at 1st level -1 more at every +4 bab.but the bonus to damage depand on the weaopn used (if same weapon is used more then once then the bonues is the same)so a mian hand weapon will get +2 for each -1 and an off hand get +1 for each -1.


Lawful Stupid wrote:
So I know this is an old thread but I have a relevant question that I can not find the answer to. When you have multiple attacks for a full attack; say a Level 6 Paladin with BAB 6/1, and you power attack, does the -3 apply to both attacks, or is it a -3 for the first with +9 damage, and a -1 for the second with +3? (Assuming two handed weapon)

I don't know if the answers so far have been very clear, so here's a clear answer for you:

The feat says:

SRD, Feats, Power Attack wrote:
When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every 4 points thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2.

Note the part I bolded. "Your base attack bonus" as a level 6 paladin is +6. The Paladin class chart lists +6/+1 to help you figure out the math for your second attack, but still, your BAB is +6.

Nowhere in the quote does it say "when your BAB for a specific attack is..." nor does it say "the penalty for this specific attack is...". It simply refers to "your base attack bonus" and then it tells you the penalty and the bonus.

Therefore, based on your BAB (+6), when you use Power Attack in a round, your penalty is -2 to hit and your bonus is +6 damage for all your 2H attacks this round.

(note, it's not -3/+9 as you posted because your BAB is not yet +8)


DM_Blake wrote:
"SRD, Feats, Power Attack"When [b wrote:
your base attack bonus[/b] reaches +4, and every 4 points thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2.
Note the part I bolded.

I think you had a format malfunction there.


Yeah, so I did. Thanks.

Fixed now.


Claxon wrote:

Power attack bonuses and penalties are the same for all attacks in a round, barring a feat/ability which changes it like Furious Focus.

Assuming a two handed weapon you would take a -2 penalty with a +6 to damage. You do not take a -3 to hit for +9 damage yet because your BAB is not high enough. You need a BAB of 8 for that.

BAB ≠ to hit.

And if memory serves, this also counts if you're taking an attack of opportunity.

Grand Lodge

Qaianna wrote:
Claxon wrote:

Power attack bonuses and penalties are the same for all attacks in a round, barring a feat/ability which changes it like Furious Focus.

Assuming a two handed weapon you would take a -2 penalty with a +6 to damage. You do not take a -3 to hit for +9 damage yet because your BAB is not high enough. You need a BAB of 8 for that.

BAB ≠ to hit.

And if memory serves, this also counts if you're taking an attack of opportunity.

Of course it does... Your BAB from your class levels doesn't change just because you're taking an AoO...


claudekennilol wrote:
Qaianna wrote:
Claxon wrote:

Power attack bonuses and penalties are the same for all attacks in a round, barring a feat/ability which changes it like Furious Focus.

Assuming a two handed weapon you would take a -2 penalty with a +6 to damage. You do not take a -3 to hit for +9 damage yet because your BAB is not high enough. You need a BAB of 8 for that.

BAB ≠ to hit.

And if memory serves, this also counts if you're taking an attack of opportunity.
Of course it does... Your BAB from your class levels doesn't change just because you're taking an AoO...

Oh, indeed. Talking more about how long the effects last more than anything.

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