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Just a wee bit.
Just a wee bit.
I gotta say, I like what i have heard so far about it. But I think for it to be used in our group's normal games, non-iphone users will need a client of some kind, probably a web client.
I'm waiting to hear as much as anyone. I was hoping my invocation would make something happen...
For any other web developers out there who are interested in seeing more cool stuff for Pathfinder on the iPhone, Apple provides specific code/CSS that the iPhone Safari browser can read, thereby formatting your page specifically for iPhone use.
Thus, you don't need to learn Objective C or become an iPhone app developer to create cool Pathfinder stuff for the iPhone.
Here's a couple of links
I've done this with a dice rolling program for Descent. It's really VERY easy.
EDIT: Also this page on Apple's site
You know, I'm half tempted to scrap my current project and start work on a web app for the iPhone now. Any suggestions besides the character sheet thing?
Yoo-hoo!!!!
Is there actually an app for pathfinder being made on the iphone? If so where did you hear about it?
Thanks,
Rzach
Is there actually an app for pathfinder being made on the iphone? If so where did you hear about it?
Thanks,
Rzach
Rzach,
I believe it was mentioned at Gen Con this year.
Madness.Sparta.
THIS! IS! PAIZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Director of Brand Strategy
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I saw the app at GenCon and it's pretty incredible. It made me want an iPhone. I'll let the Paizo folks do all the introductions, cause I don't remember it that well, nor do I want to mention features that may or may not appear in a final version. But rest assured, it was one of the damn coolest things I saw the whole weekend.
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Right now the core functionality is a "live" character sheet that tracks modifiers and rounds for you. It's also networked, so for example I might cast bless on James, Jason, and Wes, and the appropriate modifiers would appear on their character sheets in real time without them having to do anything. As the rounds count down, the modifiers disappear, etc.
We are so early in the development of this at this point that I may as well turn the question around on you.
What do you WANT the application to do?
--Erik
There was also another thread here on Paizo, but I forget where.
stop kicking people into the pit of death.
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I saw the app at GenCon and it's pretty incredible. It made me want an iPhone. I'll let the Paizo folks do all the introductions, cause I don't remember it that well, nor do I want to mention features that may or may not appear in a final version. But rest assured, it was one of the damn coolest things I saw the whole weekend.
Wait, the app is being made by Paizo? Wow, makes me want it more (despite the fact that all I know about it is announced at GenCon and Pathfinder iPhone app).
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Wait, the app is being made by Paizo? Wow, makes me want it more (despite the fact that all I know about it is announced at GenCon and Pathfinder iPhone app).
They aren't designing/coding it, but are in contact with the developer who had provided at least Erik and Jason with alpha versions. If I understood correctly, they've been giving him feedback on what features they'd like to see and he adds them. So it's sort of being made by them.
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1) I would love it if the guys added another discussion on the mobile apps in the paizo message boards.
2) I would love it if the app were designed so it could also be ported to other OS, like Google's Android or Palm's webOS.
3) It would be awesome if it included at least 3 of these:
a) Char-sheet manager (with export and print capabl)
b) Item cards (similar to game-mastery cards)
c) MAP/Handout viewer/manager
d) PDF/Rules viewer
e) Encounter/Trap/Monster generator/creator
f) Encounter Moderation (rounds, inits, effects)
g) Spell/Power quick-rule referencing cards
However: Maybe, if I were the guy behind this at Paizo, I would wait for next-year Q1, for Apple to release their new 10.1" Tablet (hopefully, we'll hear about that today morning), cause it will totally change app design, and things will definetely shake up when it comes into scene. Imagine an interactive full 10" touch-editable char-sheet to bring into your gaming sessions... Things are about to get really cool...
You would totally win the future of rpgaming with this.
Thanks for caring, paizo!
1) I would love it if the guys added another discussion on the mobile apps in the paizo message boards.
I would love it if discussion would happen here. It doesn't even have to be discussion: the mama or papa bird can just swoop in and regurgitate app goodness into our upturned, chirping beaks.
I'd like to see access to relevant game info. Especially info for skill checks, feat descriptions, spell descriptions, item tables, and monster stat blocks. That would make it really useful.
A decent initiative tracker could be useful as well.
OK, Jason offers a tiny flash preview of the Pocket Pathfinder RPG on his iPhone in Ed Healey's Pathfinder Character Creation video on Facebook.
Please, please give us something to ease the pain!
So... Does anybody know if there will only be iPhone cookies??
Please tell me they didn´t forget the Blackberry and Palm Pre clans!
Maybe if it´s Open Source(dreaming....)
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So... Does anybody know if there will only be iPhone cookies??
Please tell me they didn´t forget the Blackberry and Palm Pre clans!
Maybe if it´s Open Source(dreaming....)
This is really my pet peeve with iPhone apps. Because of the way the market works (they have the biggest share) most companies, with reason, ignore the rest of us schmucks that don't want in on the cult of the iPhone. Blackberry, Palm Pre, and Google are all completely viable alternatives with really nice interfaces, but all we ever hear about is the iPhone version. Heck it took me nearly a year to get Pandora on my G1.
So hearing about an iPhone app really puts me in a foul mood about Paizo and in no way excites or energizes me. I'd be more happy with a great set of mobile ready PDFs OR a really good mobile website that people of all platforms could share.
Hey fellas, there's another thread for non-iPhone users to complain in/make requests in.
This thread is a love song, singing the powers-that-be into the sweet ecstasy of iRevelations.
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So... Does anybody know if there will only be iPhone cookies??
Please tell me they didn´t forget the Blackberry and Palm Pre clans!
Maybe if it´s Open Source(dreaming....)This is really my pet peeve with iPhone apps. Because of the way the market works (they have the biggest share) most companies, with reason, ignore the rest of us schmucks that don't want in on the cult of the iPhone. Blackberry, Palm Pre, and Google are all completely viable alternatives with really nice interfaces, but all we ever hear about is the iPhone version. Heck it took me nearly a year to get Pandora on my G1.
So hearing about an iPhone app really puts me in a foul mood about Paizo and in no way excites or energizes me. I'd be more happy with a great set of mobile ready PDFs OR a really good mobile website that people of all platforms could share.
Kinda how we Macintosh users feel when something cool comes out but only for Windows ... stinks, doesn't it?
That is not meant as a snide comment, by the way. I am an avid Mac and Apple fan, I have an iPhone etc, but I can sympathize with you ... I hate it when I see a Windows only software release. Just because Windows has the larger (but, let's face it, slowly diminishing) market share, Mac users sometimes get the shaft.
The situation kind of reminds me of the school bus in grade school, vigorously, even angrily, debating which was better, the Super Nintendo (my side) or the Genesis (the hated David Watson's side). The month I started drawing in a pay check, though, the console wars ended for me and I've been an at least 3 console guy ever since. But that's kind of the deal, as far as video games go, if you want to play every game that comes out you have to own every system. If you don't, as is simply unfeasible for or perceived as unnecessary by many folks, you get to go where the horse you fixed your cart to pulls you. I will always lament that I never got to play Altered Beast on my SNES, but my psychologist has helped me through that dark part of my life.
As for our still largely in the dark iPhone venture, the stars aligned in such a way that we have the opportunity to do something neat with a company that has its resources at doing a specific thing in a highly visible but particular format. Our hopes is that by following this path we'll end up with something neat that people will like and might even furnish us with the opportunity to do more things like this. From there, who knows where things might lead. We're not trying to neglect or snub anyone, but we have the shot to do one type of thing right now and the options are take it or not. To take a cue from Lilith, it's like making peanut butter cookies, yay for everybody who can enjoy the first batch, and for everyone who can't have nuts, we'll try our best to make something you can enjoy with our next batches.
To take a cue from Lilith, it's like making peanut butter cookies, yay for everybody who can enjoy the first batch, and for everyone who can't have nuts, we'll try our best to make something you can enjoy with our next batches.
I approve of food analogies. :D
I had the Genesis, and my brother had the SNES, which worked out well.
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To take a cue from Lilith, it's like making peanut butter cookies, yay for everybody who can enjoy the first batch, and for everyone who can't have nuts, we'll try our best to make something you can enjoy with our next batches.
As my grandfather used to always say... That is how the cookie crumbles...
And I am sorry for those that are Nut deficient... that sucks :-(
Edit: And I still have not had any of Liliths Cookies.... Damn you Cookie Gods!!! *Fists in the air*
~video game poop~
As for our still largely in the dark iPhone venture, the stars aligned in such a way that we have the opportunity to do something neat with a company that has its resources at doing a specific thing in a highly visible but particular format.
~dealing with OT anger by cookie association~
This is all the Muse gets me in this thread?
I should have just stayed in the other thread and complained. :@
Starts indiscrimnately blasting people with his iPhone phaser and slicing them with his iPhone lightsaber.
I'm getting the sense people want an iPhone app for the sake of having an iPhone app. Consider for a moment just how usable this will be. It's a TINY screen. For a complete character sheet or DM reference page, you're going to be doing a lot of scrolling. It will be painful.
Might I suggest people jump and shout for a Netbook formatted character sheet app? Netbooks are pretty much standardizing on the 10.1 inch screen and based on my usage at the game table, I can easily see them becoming the standard instead of laptops when playing table-top roleplaying games.
For the record, I have an iPhone myself and the most useful apps give me remote information I wouldn't normally have. Typing and navigating beyond vertical scrolling on the device is a little annoying, so the netbook was a much better investment for gaming. AND it was the same price!
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But it's cool! Stop trying to make sense. I want the cool, shiny thing! ;-)
Seriously, though. You make some good points, veector. I like the concept of a Pathfinder app, but the realization of that concept remains to be seen.
However, the point made earlier is that the creation of an iPhone app was an opportunity that presented itself. It makes sense that, should a similar opportunity become available for a different format, Paizo will seriously consider taking advantage of that, too. I doubt that they will limit their market to the relatively small portion of the community that has joined the iPhone collective.
That said, as an iPhone user, I wholeheartedly support the notion of learning more about the proposed application.
I understand the issues about scrolling, zooming in/out, and typing on the iPhone...not bad, IMO, but not good. But the more it is hyperlinked and push button, the more awesome and useful (and space saving) this app will be. The power is there!
Now...
Tell us about it!
3) It would be awesome if it included at least 3 of these:
a) Char-sheet manager (with export and print capabl)
b) Item cards (similar to game-mastery cards)
c) MAP/Handout viewer/manager
d) PDF/Rules viewer
e) Encounter/Trap/Monster generator/creator
f) Encounter Moderation (rounds, inits, effects)
g) Spell/Power quick-rule referencing cards
Great ideas. I would add Fumble, Critical hits with a shake of the iPhone/iTouch!
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Page of preset dice rolls - trigger it and it does all of your rolls for a typical full-attack and groups them correctly.
Lookup of conditions, spells and weapon stats.
In-game PC manager. You'd need a desktop app to put the character together I think (iPhone would be just too painful), but you can run it in game on the phone and track HP, apply conditions, etc. Have a 'wearing my armor' toggle that applies the right ACP to your skills. Tap on a save to roll a save of that type.
Using PCGEN to generate the data in XML for upload to the phone would be good.
A combat initiative tracker where you can drag creatures up and down would be useful for the GM.
Just a braindump.
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Update from Erik Mona at ENworld:
http://www.enworld.org/forum/pathfinder-rpg-discussion/260379-pathfinder-so ftware-support-2.html
....We hope to release three iPhone apps in the next couple of months. Almost all of the programming is done, and we're basically waiting for the paperwork at Apple to clear at this point.
If those prove to be profitable, we'll look at doing more and expanding to other mobile platforms..........................
So things are looking good!
ENworld!?!?
GAH!
Did they compose freakin epic poetry!?
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Update from Erik Mona at ENworld:
http://www.enworld.org/forum/pathfinder-rpg-discussion/260379-pathfinder-so ftware-support-2.html....We hope to release three iPhone apps in the next couple of months. Almost all of the programming is done, and we're basically waiting for the paperwork at Apple to clear at this point.
If those prove to be profitable, we'll look at doing more and expanding to other mobile platforms..........................
So things are looking good!
I do hope it goes very well and gets them to make a copy for my samsung soltice. :)
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You know, I'm half tempted to scrap my current project and start work on a web app for the iPhone now. Any suggestions besides the character sheet thing?Make a replacement compass app(which I think has Tom-Tom type features) that looks like a wayfinder that uses the same functions that the compass app uses (GPS I think). :)
Most modern cell-phones share functionality with Wayfinders as is. Light + GPS = Wayfinder! Which I realized in an epiphany (while using my GPS enabled phone to get somewhere) that made my wife look at me like I was utterly mad.
But a Wayfinder skin/case would be super awesome!
(But what DOES a Wayfinder LOOK like? I've seen multiple pictures, all different)