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A quick thought:

Spoiler:
When Dr. Rush said, "I didn't cause this situation to happen" after the Senator's death, my alarms started going off. I suddenly thought, "That bastard told the aliens where the planet was, he set up the attack on the base. He did cause this situation to happen." I'm sure he figured it was the only way to force the mission through the gate. But that seeming toss away statement, along with his insistance that Eli help him immediately after the first failure (he was so sure they were going to succeed he had already told the enemy forces, so knew that they were coming).

Silver Crusade

My imression was, much like everyone else's was that this as a Voyger pastiche, but I also got a BSG redux vibe from it: Civilians clashing with military, wandering, trying to find home and desperate to survive.


pres man

Spoiler:

I had the same thought, I think he planned to stay behind originally and had a deal wit them, but they started firing and it messed up the plan by damaging the reactor, he didn't know how to open the gate, he was desperate.

If I recall it was the oran syndicate or what ever they are called, human that run kinda a mob like organization over many systems.

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I wasn't sure if the sand devil was a native life form, an ancient, or a halucination.

If the Destiny does have a guardian ancient, then I have to wonder if the other ancients are aware of her/him. Since they were able to shield the Milky Way from the Ori, it does appear that being ascended still has limits.

Rush's cold bloodedness continues to intrigue me, and makes a nice foil to his protogee. The "Stick your arm into the gate, this might work" was kind of funny, in a cold way.


Matthew Morris wrote:

I wasn't sure if the sand devil was a native life form, an ancient, or a halucination.

If the Destiny does have a guardian ancient, then I have to wonder if the other ancients are aware of her/him. Since they were able to shield the Milky Way from the Ori, it does appear that being ascended still has limits.

Rush's cold bloodedness continues to intrigue me, and makes a nice foil to his protogee. The "Stick your arm into the gate, this might work" was kind of funny, in a cold way.

Not to mention he had a man shot in an effort to save the man's life.


Xabulba wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:

I wasn't sure if the sand devil was a native life form, an ancient, or a halucination.

If the Destiny does have a guardian ancient, then I have to wonder if the other ancients are aware of her/him. Since they were able to shield the Milky Way from the Ori, it does appear that being ascended still has limits.

Rush's cold bloodedness continues to intrigue me, and makes a nice foil to his protogee. The "Stick your arm into the gate, this might work" was kind of funny, in a cold way.

Not to mention he had a man shot in an effort to save the man's life.

I think he is going to blame that on the soldier, whom he does not like and whom doesn't trust him.


Liked it too, anyone notice...

Spoiler#1

Spoiler:
Rush didn't say he ordered the angry marine to shoot the one holding the remote dhd controller?
Okay someone did notice this, darn!

Spoiler#2

Spoiler:
The two sent through to the other planet, why didn't they send anyone to find them?
Given they sent a trio after Scott & co wouldn't it make sense for them to reveal what happened to the missing pair?

Regarding the ending scene

Spoiler:
Didn't look like a shuttle, more like maybe an escape pod or message pod maybe?

Still not bad at all!

Dark Archive

Eli had the gate open to the blocked out world and was trying to contact them with a radio before the team came to get them off the desert planet.

Silver Crusade

Didn't like the premiere, but the 2nd episode was pretty good so I will continue to watch it off of Hulu.


I do agree with rush on the ship didn't dial them for a reason. Show is shaping up to be very character driven with a hint of an over plot


Still wondering how long before I get cut off, but anyone know why Eli didn't just have those on the ship try and reach them?

I mean they did have the people to try after all?

Is it worth spoilering this bit?

Liberty's Edge

hopeless wrote:

Still wondering how long before I get cut off, but anyone know why Eli didn't just have those on the ship try and reach them?

I mean they did have the people to try after all?

Is it worth spoilering this bit?

Think the ships dialing system locked out the other 3 addresses. One of the away team hacked a work-around on their remote to go to one of the other addresses. And I did notice that Rush totally blamed Sgt. Greer for shooting that guy.


Yep it was covered the team on world hacked around the ships lockout, the ship locked out all 3 gates. The people on the ship could not dial it, Elis did try and radio them but no luck.

And yeah rush total blamed the shooting the the soldier

I smell subplot


hmm; I have only seen two episodes; wow do they all need, like the Joker says "this town needs and enema" well that ship is way to tightly wound; to many cheifs; not enough indans.

end scene

Spoiler:

I think the shuttle at the end signified the burial of the Senator and closing that spot that was venting.

Does the main science guy seem a lot like Batlar of Cattlecar Galactica?

so; what now they dont have a geologist? hmm, man; woman on planet all alone; anyone smell Adam and Eve plot?

Liberty's Edge

Whatever it was that detached from the ship wasn't the shuttle. It was too far to the stern and also the shuttle was on a raised part of the ship. It's also the wrong shape. I watched whatever it was a few times and it didnt seem to be part of the ship. There was no docking port or any other hardware for it to connect to the Destiny, it lifted off from a smooth piece of hull. You can actually pick out 2 shuttles at least during the opening flyby at the start of the premier. One on the ships centerline and another back a bit and to port (probably the one the senator's in).

Dark Archive

Yeah, I'm going to agree that it wasn't the shuttle with the senator in it that we saw launched. Two reasons why I think that. One is that the door they closed was in the shuttle itself. The docking bay door won't close. If they had repaired that It would have been mentioned on the show, because it creates a change in the status quo. Similarly, there would have been some mention of the senator's "burial at sea" if that is what it had been, since again, it represents a change in the established order of things.

Also, the Adam and Eve scenario would be cool, but they are unlikely to go back to it. Even if they are still alive on the planet, the asumption that the crew is operating under is that they are dead. Plus, the mode that Destiny is operating in now, it is unlikely that they will ever visit anything near that system again. So there is no plot driven reason to revisit the two stranded on the planet, if they are still alive.


uhm; dont you think you should have kept those comments as spoilers for those who have it perhaps recorded and had not seen it yet? would be polite.


On Adam and Eve:

Spoiler:
The gate on the ship may have been locked out, but individual gates on planets were not, thus why the people on the planet could dial the other gates as long as they had the address (and a dialer).

It is possible that the two scientists could dial a gate further along the Destiny's flight path and "catch-up" with the ship at a later date (leap frog from world to world while the Destiny flies between them).

Liberty's Edge

Valegrim wrote:
uhm; dont you think you should have kept those comments as spoilers for those who have it perhaps recorded and had not seen it yet? would be polite.

Sorry about that. Won't let me go back and edit it now though....

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David Fryer wrote:
I liked that they are still going to be having trouble with the ship. It would have been really lame if they had fixxed the ship ad then had it turned into the usual sci-fi explore the universe fare. Also loved th dust devil alien that Lt. Scott encountered. Notice that there was nothing said b Col. Young or Gen. O'Neil that contradicts the commnt last week abiout Dr. Rush being in charge, so I presume that he was telling the truth. Looking forward to more episodes andthe promised appeance by Morgan La Fey. She always has the most interesting apperances.

[Cough]Ripped off the Judy Dench Elemental from Chronicles of Riddik[/clears throat]

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yellowdingo wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
I liked that they are still going to be having trouble with the ship. It would have been really lame if they had fixxed the ship ad then had it turned into the usual sci-fi explore the universe fare. Also loved th dust devil alien that Lt. Scott encountered. Notice that there was nothing said b Col. Young or Gen. O'Neil that contradicts the commnt last week abiout Dr. Rush being in charge, so I presume that he was telling the truth. Looking forward to more episodes andthe promised appeance by Morgan La Fey. She always has the most interesting apperances.
[Cough]Ripped off the Judy Dench Elemental from Chronicles of Riddik[/clears throat]

Except tht Morgan is actually interesting. Putting Dame Judy in Chronicles of Riddick was simply an effort to polish a turd.

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I was a little disappointed in the last episode, seemed like nothing happened.. :-(

Dark Archive

Personally I liked yesterday's episode. It was slow paced yes, but SGU doesn't need to be the bad guy of the week. It is more about survival and character development. Yesterday was a great example of that.


I agree, it was very character driven and there is a puzzle there and mysteries to find


Same here, I like the way they are headed with the show making the show less explosions and more character.


First big complaint: Stop all the shaky cam crap and BS:G film editing crap. When the ship is being shaken badly, ok, when people are walking down a nice calm passage way, no.

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pres man wrote:
First big complaint: Stop all the shaky cam crap and BS:G film editing crap. When the ship is being shaken badly, ok, when people are walking down a nice calm passage way, no.

Surprisingly I don't find myself minding the shaky cam like I thought I would. It feels more like an amateur film depicting a disaster than the usual Sci-Fi polish.

Still, I do hope they don't exhaust the broken ship, we're all gonna die tropes too soon. Tension is good, but sometimes you need to break tension and allow a period of calm before you screw everything up again.

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This past week's cliff-hanger was, well, less than nerve-wracking.

Spoiler:

The ship needs power. It drops into regular space in a star system, scoops through the atmosphere of a gas giant, and heads for the star. Hey, perhaps it's collected hydrogen and is going to charge up its fuel cells.

Honestly, folks. This is an Ancient ship, a hundred-thousand years old. It's been doing its job for a while now. How about trusting it?

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Chris Mortika wrote:

This past week's cliff-hanger was, well, less than nerve-wracking.

** spoiler omitted **

That was what I got from that, too. It's that old, odds are good that it's done this before. Still, trust is hard when it's the unknown and your life is on the line. Still I think it's hilarious that everyone has picked the wunderkind for knowing what is really going on. And that he hasn't used that yet.


well, I am still watching...I think the soldiers still suck; but keep telling myself their Air Force; and that makes me feel better about their lousy soldiering.

That crew really needs some discipline and a serious ego check. Seems like a lot of self serving gits to me; seems strange from being such hand picked people from the Alpha sight.

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Valegrim wrote:

well, I am still watching...I think the soldiers still suck; but keep telling myself their Air Force; and that makes me feel better about their lousy soldiering.

mumbles something about being in the Air Force and wonders what Valgrim is trying to say

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Valegrim wrote:

well, I am still watching...I think the soldiers still suck; but keep telling myself their Air Force; and that makes me feel better about their lousy soldiering.

I don't know, their bumbling sure seems more like the Army than the Air Force. :) Maybe they are really Marines.

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David Fryer wrote:
Valegrim wrote:

well, I am still watching...I think the soldiers still suck; but keep telling myself their Air Force; and that makes me feel better about their lousy soldiering.

I don't know, their bumbling sure seems more like the Army than the Air Force. :) Maybe they are really Marines.

Well Greer is a Marine, Don't ask me how the hell he got to the Marine rank of Master Sergeant, he acts more like Private or Corporal.

Dark Archive

Dragnmoon wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Valegrim wrote:

well, I am still watching...I think the soldiers still suck; but keep telling myself their Air Force; and that makes me feel better about their lousy soldiering.

I don't know, their bumbling sure seems more like the Army than the Air Force. :) Maybe they are really Marines.
Well Greer is a Marine, Don't ask me how the hell he got to the Marine rank of Master Sergeant, he acts more like Private or Corporal.

Maybe being off world screwed up his head. I doubt he would have been accepted into the SGC with the attitude he has right now.


If I recall he did go nuts, there was a few people talking about it. Also if you rember they have said a few times not this crew, that group was never meant for this kind of thing and are not the type that would normally ever been sent

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seekerofshadowlight wrote:
If I recall he did go nuts, there was a few people talking about it. Also if you rember they have said a few times not this crew, that group was never meant for this kind of thing and are not the type that would normally ever been sent

Yep, they re supposed to be sent back to Earth because they were a liability to Icarus Base during the attack. The people who shoul hae gone were either killed or beamed up by the Hammond.


even the military is not the best, we got a first timer out of training a crazy guy and the guys you put in back or on KT duty or have as far from the fight as you can, heh.. We are talking bottom of the barrel this is not SG team guys this is the guys that were "well we can put em on a base and they can do the crap work" the best of the beast are gate teams, but even the SGC needs lower rung guys that will never make a gate team, or hell guard the gate room


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
even the military is not the best, we got a first timer out of training a crazy guy and the guys you put in back or on KT duty or have as far from the fight as you can, heh.. We are talking bottom of the barrel this is not SG team guys this is the guys that were "well we can put em on a base and they can do the crap work" the best of the beast are gate teams, but even the SGC needs lower rung guys that will never make a gate team, or hell guard the gate room

I don't agree...

Although some of the people in bases and outposts don't have to be elite superduperspecforces, they still have to be selected for their ability to function in weird environment, situations and under stress.
After all, they are exposed to a high security level.
The man who kicked Rush in the back should have stayed in jail. He shouldn't even be trusted as a janitor.


I am not sure what branch they are part of. But whatever branch it is, evidently C-cup implants are pretty standard. Geez, pretty big "here is the T-and-A guys" sign.

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pres man wrote:
I am not sure what branch they are part of. But whatever branch it is, evidently C-cup implants are pretty standard. Geez, pretty big "here is the T-and-A guys" sign.

I am not complaining.

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James Martin wrote:
pres man wrote:
I am not sure what branch they are part of. But whatever branch it is, evidently C-cup implants are pretty standard. Geez, pretty big "here is the T-and-A guys" sign.
I am not complaining.

I will, never understood implants. "Why take a wondrous creation like the female form and do *that* to it?" as my dad would say.


Has anyone picked up on a future plot complications caused by Colonel David Telford (Lou Diamond Philips). Whenever Telford and Young swap bodies Telford loses it when he sees how everyone is behaving. I foresee a show where Telford tries to steel young’s body and take over command of the mission permanently.


Xabulba wrote:
Has anyone picked up on a future plot complications caused by Colonel David Telford (Lou Diamond Philips). Whenever Telford and Young swap bodies Telford loses it when he sees how everyone is behaving. I foresee a show where Telford tries to steel young’s body and take over command of the mission permanently.

About the stones. People keep saying stuff like, "You can't help because you are dumb." Or "I don't know what to do with myself because I don't belong here." You have stones that can switch the minds of two people. HELLO! If you need a neuro-surgeon, take the politican's daughter, have her switch bodies with a neuro-surgeon, blam! Problem solved. Need someone familiar with ancient technology, switch Private T-and-A with Rodney McKay, problem solves.

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pres man wrote:
Xabulba wrote:
Has anyone picked up on a future plot complications caused by Colonel David Telford (Lou Diamond Philips). Whenever Telford and Young swap bodies Telford loses it when he sees how everyone is behaving. I foresee a show where Telford tries to steel young’s body and take over command of the mission permanently.
About the stones. People keep saying stuff like, "You can't help because you are dumb." Or "I don't know what to do with myself because I don't belong here." You have stones that can switch the minds of two people. HELLO! If you need a neuro-surgeon, take the politican's daughter, have her switch bodies with a neuro-surgeon, blam! Problem solved. Need someone familiar with ancient technology, switch Private T-and-A with Rodney McKay, problem solves.

That appears to be in the works and several people like Micheal Shanks are scheduled to be guest stars.


David Fryer wrote:
pres man wrote:
Xabulba wrote:
Has anyone picked up on a future plot complications caused by Colonel David Telford (Lou Diamond Philips). Whenever Telford and Young swap bodies Telford loses it when he sees how everyone is behaving. I foresee a show where Telford tries to steel young’s body and take over command of the mission permanently.
About the stones. People keep saying stuff like, "You can't help because you are dumb." Or "I don't know what to do with myself because I don't belong here." You have stones that can switch the minds of two people. HELLO! If you need a neuro-surgeon, take the politican's daughter, have her switch bodies with a neuro-surgeon, blam! Problem solved. Need someone familiar with ancient technology, switch Private T-and-A with Rodney McKay, problem solves.
That appears to be in the works and several people like Micheal Shanks are scheduled to be guest stars.

I don't remeber the stone's properties very well but arn't they limited to switching just one person with an other person, Young will always switch with Telford and so on so out of the five stone three have been used. I also vagely recall some kind of limiting factor the stones had, like psycial or mental injury if you use them too much.


David Fryer wrote:
pres man wrote:
Xabulba wrote:
Has anyone picked up on a future plot complications caused by Colonel David Telford (Lou Diamond Philips). Whenever Telford and Young swap bodies Telford loses it when he sees how everyone is behaving. I foresee a show where Telford tries to steel young’s body and take over command of the mission permanently.
About the stones. People keep saying stuff like, "You can't help because you are dumb." Or "I don't know what to do with myself because I don't belong here." You have stones that can switch the minds of two people. HELLO! If you need a neuro-surgeon, take the politican's daughter, have her switch bodies with a neuro-surgeon, blam! Problem solved. Need someone familiar with ancient technology, switch Private T-and-A with Rodney McKay, problem solves.
That appears to be in the works and several people like Micheal Shanks are scheduled to be guest stars.

I can't wait for the episode where Rush and McKay get in the same room and the ship goes *boom* while they argue about whose brain is bigger...

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Matthew Morris wrote:


Rush's cold bloodedness continues to intrigue me, and makes a nice foil to his protogee. The "Stick your arm into the gate, this might work" was kind of funny, in a cold way.

I'll admit the show is not as bad as I had feared, though I still think the Senator's daughter and the young/troubled military men (there are two) aren't necessary. I'm giving it a chance, if only for Carlyle.

The arm thing was the first thing I thought of as soon as the alarm for 3 minutes went off. That made me happy, as it stayed true to Stargate's method of continuity/problem-solving (in a way, it goes all the way back to episode 2 of SG1).

That moment turned around a similar moment that almost put me off the series.

Spoiler:

Just before debating who will seal the shuttle door in Air, there are several scenes with the 'Kino'.

HELLO! You have a supply of flying, remote-control metal orbs. Surely one of these can depress a button?


So does anyone else think Rush knew what was going to happen?


Jal Dorak wrote:


That moment turned around a similar moment that almost put me off the series.

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
It would only work if there was a physical button to push. Most Ancient technology uses digital displays and require the Ancient gene to work. That's why they couldn't use a keno to close the door.
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Tiny Tina wrote:
So does anyone else think Rush knew what was going to happen?

Actually, no I don't think he did. If he did, he'd not have let their only medic go.

Being frequently in the 'good enough to be a friend, not good enough to be more' catagory, I felt for Eli.

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