Good call. I thought it looked familiar, but could not place it right away. Sure sounds like a fun andventure.
Stefan
Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious.
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Branding Opportunity, is this what we fought today ?
No, you fought (and decimated) an advanced fiendish reekmurk. It's an ooze from FF.
No way. It's a decapus wizard (using magic to transform 4 tentacles into 2 arms) fighting with one tentacle tied behind its back, just to prove how awesome it is as a monster.
From Jacobs' post, I just assumed we were looking at a portrait of the author.
Tendriculos. Just because they could.
Kae'yoss is playing his cards close to his chest.
Of course. That way no one will know that it's a bunch of cards from Disney's Little Mermaid quartet until it's too late.
One of you is close. It is not really a new monster.
Tendriculos. Just because they could.
That would be kinda cool. It certainly has a otyugh crossed with a shambling mound type of appearance.
That would be kinda cool. It certainly has a otyugh crossed with a shambling mound type of appearance.
But after consulting Dungeon Denizens Revisited.. a mutant otyugh seems more likely.
A pity. A tendriculos gets dissed for being too close to a shambling mound, but with that swallow whole ability.. they were pretty neat opponents.
I guess I never understood the otyugh craze (though I have nothing against it either).
Oh, you're way off. Otyugh, indeed!
Look at it's eyes; are they on a stalk? I think not.
Kae'yoss is playing his cards close to his chest. It wouldn't surprise me if he'd got it, considering his...proclivities <cough>.
Compare and contrast this image please.
It's a half otyugh, half devil cross-breed. Or an otyugh template on something else. or something else + otyugh.
Prove me wrong.
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Oh dear. Ohdearohdearohdear.
I can see this is going to take a while.
If anyone wants me, I'll be in my Chambers, Robert.
Wait a minute... I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.
The monster is called "the outcast king"... and you mentioned the author of "The King in Yellow"... and this adventure is about an evil play... Dammit, Wes. :-/
Jeremy Puckett
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One of you is close. It is not really a new monster.
Indeed.
1895, wasn't it?
(Though the modern aspect owes a lot to an essay by H.P Lovecraft {1927} and a re-imagining by August Derleth {1939})
PS: Oh, and check out Dungeon 134.
PPS: And let's not forget, the first published adventure for D&D 3.0.
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Compare and contrast this image please.
It's a half otyugh, half devil cross-breed. Or an otyugh template on something else. or something else + otyugh.
Prove me wrong.
If you believe that, you'll believe anything.
Here, I've got a lighthouse in Freeport to sell you.
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I vote Fiendish Otyugh (of Bearded Devil ancestry)
Here, I've got a lighthouse in Freeport to sell you.
Pffffh! Hilarious.
And again, some of you are VERY close, but I haven't seen exactly what's written at the top of the stat block yet. :P
PPS: And let's not forget, the first published adventure for D&D 3.0.Which one was that Snorter?
Oh, and I think you're onto something there...
The Sunless Citadel. And I'm not sure he is onto anything, he might just be spitting out random links to similar named stuff and Cthulhu. He's mysterious like that ;-)
If you believe that, you'll believe anything.
Here, I've got a lighthouse in Freeport to sell you.
I'll trade you this copy of the Necronomicon I picked up for it.
I vote Fiendish Otyugh (of Bearded Devil ancestry)
** spoiler omitted **
Ok - I didn't catch all those similarities - artists can take a bit of license though. The half-fiend template perhaps? They generally have wings though.
I vote Fiendish Otyugh (of Bearded Devil ancestry)
** spoiler omitted **
I can see the bearded devil, but fiendish would not give the Otyugh hands to wield weapons with, as it clearly does in the picture, nor would Devil-Bound. Half-Fiend gives you claw attacks, so that is a possibility. However, since it clearly looks like a combination of Otyugh and Bearded Devil, I wonder why no one has stated the obvious?
Amalgam Otyugh/Bearded Devil.
Using the incredibly complex and awesome template in the Advanced Bestiary to merge the two would indeed result in an Otyugh with the beard special attack, and an extra set of limbs, capable of wielding weapons. That's my theory anyway.
C. Robert Brown
Using the incredibly complex and awesome template in the Advanced Bestiary
The Green Ronin book? Or is there an Pathfinder Advanced Bestiary?
Bit odd for Paizo to use a 3rd party pub. for a creature...?
Director of Brand Strategy
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Using the incredibly complex and awesome template in the Advanced BestiaryThe Green Ronin book? Or is there an Pathfinder Advanced Bestiary?
Bit odd for Paizo to use a 3rd party pub. for a creature...?
Paizo has used the Advanced Bestiary many, many times. Using it soon after the PFRPG release will also show nay-sayers that backwards compatibility was maintained.
My vote goes for Gugla Cench, which is what I immediately thought of when I saw it. It was the holding of the wands that got me. Remember, he was a fiendish otyugh sorcerer.
Using the incredibly complex and awesome template in the Advanced BestiaryThe Green Ronin book? Or is there an Pathfinder Advanced Bestiary?
Bit odd for Paizo to use a 3rd party pub. for a creature...?
Not really. The AB, Testament, Nyambe, Tome of Horrors, have all gotten use, just off the top of my head.
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PPS: And let's not forget, the first published adventure for D&D 3.0.
The Sunless Citadel.
I said the first published adventure, not the first official adventure. Just as with the monster manuals, WotC were a little slow off the blocks.
And I'm not sure he is onto anything, he might just be spitting out random links to similar named stuff and Cthulhu. He's mysterious like that ;-)
As is the author of this upcoming adventure...
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I am truly amazed that no one has come up with this before, but it is clearly: ** spoiler omitted **
Especially with Wes's teasing hint that it's not really a new monster.
This is old G.C., as done by our resident batrachian.
Okay - I didn't know that Paizo used GR stuff. I don't actually read that much about Paizo adventures as my DM might use all that stuff.
I still think its obtuse though. Its too complex, too easily matched by more familiar combinations (half-fiend springs to mind here), too dependant on a third party tome that DMs may not have.
I'll wait for an official answer on this one :-)
PS: have you noticed how Snorter isn't actually answering the best parts of my posts? That's coz he can't argue and defend his point of view without prevarication like I can :-)
Admittedly, that's all he wants to do anyway.
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Pfffttthhhht!!
But, seriously, Paizo have been using third-party creatures even in the Dungeon and Dragon days. And having the book isn't required, as they'll usually reprint the statblock.
No spoilers, but Fayne's going to get a shock, courtesy of Clark; and no, I don't mean a 'Fiendish Dire Flumph of Legend'.
Pfffttthhhht!!
But, seriously, Paizo have been using third-party creatures even in the Dungeon and Dragon days. And having the book isn't required, as they'll usually reprint the statblock.
No spoilers, but Fayne's going to get a shock, courtesy of Clark; and no, I don't mean a 'Fiendish Dire Flumph of Legend'.
I don't read Dungeon or Dragon. And statblocks aren't the be all and end all of a monster.
Who is Clark?
Back on-topic, at the risk of looking like someone who has too much googling time on his hands, you're talking about the King in Yellow, Hastur, insanity etc etc.
None of this is anything remotely connected in constructing a stat block of a D&D monster - or if it is, it's so obtuse it may as well be a "3-2-1, decipher the obtuse clue, avoid Dusty Bin" moment.
Forget it. Or tell me WTF you're on about.
Sometimes I hate cryptic DMs. And he won't even care. Winker.
Clark Peterson of Necromancer Games? I've lost track of what the hell Snorter's talking about today. Snorter, you been hanging out with Krome? Or are you indeed snorting something?
;)
The Wizard's Amulet doesn't hae anything like that.
& it seems I can't find my copy of Dungeon #82. Perhaps I was between subscriptions.
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Paizo has used the Advanced Bestiary many, many times. Using it soon after the PFRPG release will also show nay-sayers that backwards compatibility was maintained.
This.
And I shall now confirm: It is indeed an amalgam creature, using the Advanced Bestiary template.
We do indeed make relatively frequent use of non-core, non-Paizo products in the adventures. The Tome of Horrors line and the Advanced Bestiary are FAR and above the books we use the most, but we also often use GR's Book of Fiends, the Creature Catalog, and other books.
Using open 3.5 content in a PFRPG adventure is indeed me trying to lead by example and show off the fact that the PFRPG is VERY compatible with 3.5. In fact, for me, a big reason to make PFRPG that compatible is for this very reason; so we can continue to use the kick-ass content other publishers have produced. In any event, we DO try to include full stat blocks for creatures like this. And while the amalgam template is complicated, the resulting stat block is no more complex than any other monster's stat block. AND: Simply applying the half-fiend template wouldn't work for a few reasons (mostly to do with the flavor of the module and how the Outcast King got to be what he is).
We also use a monster from the SRD that WASN'T updated to the Bestiary in PF 25, as a way of showing that, yes, even though your favorite monster from the MM didn't get into the Pathfinder Bestiary... they still work perfectly fine.
We do, of course, do the work of updating these older creatures to work with the new rules, but in most cases that's just adding a CMB and CMD score and changing a few skill names.
It's very compatible.
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Congrats, Robert!
And to myself as well for calling half of it! >:D
Not really. The AB, Testament, Nyambe, Tome of Horrors, have all gotten use, just off the top of my head.Using the incredibly complex and awesome template in the Advanced BestiaryThe Green Ronin book? Or is there an Pathfinder Advanced Bestiary?
Bit odd for Paizo to use a 3rd party pub. for a creature...?
I remember seeing references to all of those except Testament and Nyambe. When did those get used?
Also, Advanced Bestiary is the bee's knees.
Any way to get a print copy of the two works in question? I can't seem to find them easily ...