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15 years ago the average american breast size was a B-cup.

But, because of hormones in our food, including toothpaste, the average size is now C-cup.


Or... because the American obesity rate shot up, and the average cup size along with it. Some women gain five pounds and entire pound of it goes to their chest.

Or... greedy chiropractors have covertly invaded the FDA in an attempt to insert mammary-enlarging chemicals into our food so that one day an outbreak of back-pained women will storm their offices, credit cards in hand.

"Some men believe that the perfect breast fills a champagne flute... I like a boob that can clog a toilet" -- some stand-up from the early 90's whose name I can't recall.

Sovereign Court

Nasty Pajamas wrote:

15 years ago the average american breast size was a B-cup.

But, because of hormones in our food, including toothpaste, the average size is now C-cup.

So by the turn of next century that would work out to ... YE GODS!!!

NOTE: It's Woody Allen but probably NSFW ...

The Exchange

The Jade wrote:

Or... because the American obesity rate shot up, and the average cup size along with it. Some women gain five pounds and entire pound of it goes to their chest.

Or... greedy chiropractors have covertly invaded the FDA in an attempt to insert mammary-enlarging chemicals into our food so that one day an outbreak of back-pained women will storm their offices, credit cards in hand.

"Some men believe that the perfect breast fills a champagne flute... I like a boob that can clog a toilet" -- some stand-up from the early 90's whose name I can't recall.

Something that wasn't mentioned is that more and younger girls are ending up with developing chests. When I was in 7th grade there was only a couple of girls developing. Now it seems like there are more 10 year olds with developing chests than there were 13-14 year olds back in my day (I'm 38 BTW). It really isn't the obesity, it's the fact that hormones are in most meats that the US calls safe, among other things. Steroids also seem to be part of the issue.

Not that I mind a cup size increase (although I usually don't focus much on that aspect of the target) but breasts look weird on an 8-10 yr old and the persons responsible for that should be held accountable for screwing up a person's growth rate.

Scarab Sages

I had a buddy in college (a Marine with extreme ADD), who went on this 20 minute lecture to us on just this topic. Honestly, it was the longest I'd ever heard him stay "on topic" in all the time I'd known him.

Grand Lodge

Maybe the cups got smaller.

Scarab Sages

buzzby wrote:
Maybe the cups got smaller.

I hate when that happens.


Fake Healer wrote:
Something that wasn't mentioned is that more and younger girls are ending up with developing chests.

I hadn't noticed, but there are dangerous and transformative hormones and steroids in the food to be sure. I just think it's multi-factorial. It's a serious issue, but most people defend the companies and institutions bringing them food with righteous ignorance, with not one scintilla of relevant study. Question the food supply and many folks consider you a whacko. Why, I'm no whacko.

I'm still going with my chiropractic cabal story though! ;)


Fake Healer wrote:
Not that I mind a cup size increase (although I usually don't focus much on that aspect of the target) .../...

I laughed at "the target". :)


Fake Healer wrote:
Something that wasn't mentioned is that more and younger girls are ending up with developing chests. When I was in 7th grade there was only a couple of girls developing. Now it seems like there are more 10 year olds with developing chests than there were 13-14 year olds back in my day (I'm 38 BTW). It really isn't the obesity, it's the fact that hormones are in most meats that the US calls safe, among other things. Steroids also seem to be part of the issue.

There is, of course, another explanation. We know for a fact that sexual development is often delayed in humans because of disease and malnutrition. Given modern medical advances and the fact that people have more food in greater diversity than ever before, it seems likely that young girls are developing breasts at younger ages because they are healthier than previous generations.

I'm not saying that your explanation is wrong. To tell you the truth, I don't know enough about the subject to really say for certain. However, just doing a quick google search seems to suggest that there is at least some dispute about why girls are developing sexually at younger ages. In the meantime, I found at least one article arguing that hormones in meats and eggs curtail breast development, rather than enhance it. So until I see some better evidence to suggest that the hormones in our foods are causing young women to develop earlier, I think I'm going to remain a little skeptical about this one.


The Jade wrote:
Why, I'm no whacko.

What's this tinfoil hat I found hanging on your coat rack for? ;)


What about this just being natural selection at work?
Women prefer taller guys --> tall guys have more offspring than short guys --> mean human height gradually increases.

Men like bigger boobs --> ?


I know everyone is thinking it, but you are all too cowardly to say it.

It's Sebastian's fault.


CourtFool wrote:

I know everyone is thinking it, but you are all too cowardly to say it.

It's Sebastian's fault.

Nah, just hadn't gotten there yet.

Scarab Sages

No, it's the growth hormones (That's why there are so many cases of Percoscious puberty...my kids are 9, and several of the girls in their class have already started into puberty.)

And the estrogen in the water supply which is too small to be filtered out by normal filtration methods...

That's why men's Moobs are getting bigger also...that and the fast food!


DoveArrow wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Why, I'm no whacko.
What's this tinfoil hat I found hanging on your coat rack for? ;)

Codpiece, baby. Codpiece.


So, it's in the water? Aaannd, where can I find this water?

Sovereign Court

I, for one, welcome our new large-breasted overlords.


Xaaon of Xen'Drik wrote:
No, it's the growth hormones... That's why men's Moobs are getting bigger also...that and the fast food!

OK, so it's a triune cabal of chiropractors, the cattle industry, plastic surgeons,... and the white & red clown. No, wait, the four chief conspirators....

fnord


Nameless wrote:
I, for one, welcome our new large-breasted overlords.

All hail our large-breasted overlords!

*falls to the ground and starts chanting "We're not worthy, we're not worthy!"*


"Sha-wiiiiiiiiiiiing...."


The Jade wrote:
Or... because the American obesity rate shot up, and the average cup size along with it. Some women gain five pounds and entire pound of it goes to their chest.

yay, that's it. It would be great if only this one area grew, but that is not how the body works.


Crowheart wrote:
"Sha-wiiiiiiiiiiiing...."

Has anyone else seen the comedy show wherein irate bikers randomly beat with clubs anyone who said that? It also had a skit about "This Old (Whore) House," with a Bob Vila lookalike, and a "Bensonhurst" spoof of 90210.

EDIT: "Hardcore TV," it was called. Classic.


DoveArrow wrote:
... a quick google search seems to suggest that there is at least some dispute about why girls are developing sexually at younger ages. ...

It's called getting fatter. Nothing to do with sexual development.

My naive guess would be a change in sexual development would come from evolutionary forces, and would take many generations to manifest itself; not, in a mere 15 years.

It is all about the hormones in our food these days. Eat cheaper while your young, then pay higher medical bills later in life. That is the trade off. oh, and bigger breastages.


Nasty Pajamas wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Or... because the American obesity rate shot up, and the average cup size along with it. Some women gain five pounds and entire pound of it goes to their chest.
yay, that's it. It would be great if only this one area grew, but that is not how the body works.

Some people's bodies do work that way. I had a GF gain five pounds (I'm fattening) and BOOM. Fourth of July. She wasn't all that upset about it. ;)


I'm glad we can have civilized and mature discussions about such topics on this board (says the guy who makes Wayne's World references >_> ).


Nasty Pajamas wrote:


It is all about the hormones in our food these days. Eat cheaper while your young, then pay higher medical bills later in life. That is the trade off. oh, and bigger breastages.

There was a chemical plant down in South America spilling mutagens into the surrounding environment and kids were getting swelled breasts and pubic hair at age four and five. What a horror. The one caution in stating one declarative reason for the bigguns without conclusive scientific proof is that you might deny a holistic understanding of how many factors may accidentally work towards the same result. However, I do find it easy to believe that hormones in the food could be a part of the puzzle.

That and the tireless prayers of men.

They do say that the preservatives in the food are making our corpses stay fresher for longer than has ever been previously observed. Who knew the true arcane secrets of lichdom involved mass intake of Twinkies?


The Jade wrote:
Who knew the true arcane secrets of lichdom involved mass intake of Twinkies?

Oh, I knew it!


The Jade wrote:
... Who knew the true arcane secrets of lichdom involved mass intake of Twinkies?

Ok, I'm stealing this thought, and creating a Call of Cthulhu adventure with this. ha.


And in other perhaps related news...


Lilith wrote:
And in other perhaps related news...

I think Swedes eat better food than us. Or, perhaps it is in the water.

Paizo Employee Director of Sales

Oh.. I guess that I will go elsewhere to look for links to the various stages the tar pits at Brea passed through.


Forsberg wrote:
"We don't define what bathing suits men should wear so it doesn't make much sense to do it for women. And besides, it's not unusual for men to have large breasts that resemble women's breasts,"

LOL


Maybe the paizo editors can have a best manboob contest!

Liberty's Edge

strangely enough, my biology teacher mentioned something about melatonin being secreted by the pineal gland-this secretion is inhibited by light

she stated that melatonin sets biological rhythms and promotes sleep and that less melotonin can cause an early onset of puberty

she said that with the modern use of electricity and night lights, our youngsters are hitting puberty earlier...

she also said in the city, children are hitting puberty earlier than in the country-again more light causing hormonal changes

Scarab Sages

Lilith wrote:
And in other perhaps related news...

Note to self....visit Sweden.


Sayler Van Merlin wrote:

strangely enough, my biology teacher mentioned something about melatonin being secreted by the pineal gland-this secretion is inhibited by light

she stated that melatonin sets biological rhythms and promotes sleep and that less melotonin can cause an early onset of puberty

she said that with the modern use of electricity and night lights, our youngsters are hitting puberty earlier...

she also said in the city, children are hitting puberty earlier than in the country-again more light causing hormonal changes

Ok, but starting puberty earlier does not mean breasts have to get larger. There must be something else going on. Most likely, the fact that Americans are getting fatter.

It is interesting someone spoke about eating cheap food when young, and then paying more medical bills when old. This was actually a topic at a recent national insurance company's meeting. The complaint is, food companies are making more money with their low cost food, and then insurance companies have to foot the higher medical bills later in life.


Aberzombie wrote:
Lilith wrote:
And in other perhaps related news...
Note to self....visit Sweden.

Norway is actually a nicer place to visit than Sweden. The gulf stream keeps the coast line around Bergen nice and warm, and beachy.


Norway's also loaded. Which means they can afford more enhancement surgeries.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Norway's also loaded. Which means they can afford more enhancement surgeries.

Ha! and, they can afford to buy expensive, healthy foods.(??)


Why do that when you have the money for more surgeries!?

Paizo Employee Director of Narrative

Um, because the flesh mechanics behind Western medicine don't really focus on living right, but rather focus on treating conditions?


I'm going to have to give my vote to the over-eating side. Menarche happens in a girl once her body is large enough for childbearing, typically age 12. Every girl has a genetically predetermined weight and if she reaches that weight at age 9 through McDonalds and twinkies, her body will begin puberty.
Well, look at that, I knew something :)


I don't know 'bout y'all but Azhagal is verry proud o' his small b cup
*wink^2*


And he has cute little nipples!


O vomit guy...


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber
The Jade wrote:

Or... because the American obesity rate shot up, and the average cup size along with it. Some women gain five pounds and entire pound of it goes to their chest.

Or... greedy chiropractors have covertly invaded the FDA in an attempt to insert mammary-enlarging chemicals into our food so that one day an outbreak of back-pained women will storm their offices, credit cards in hand.

"Some men believe that the perfect breast fills a champagne flute... I like a boob that can clog a toilet" -- some stand-up from the early 90's whose name I can't recall.

andrew dice clay i reckon


Quote:
Maybe the paizo editors can have a best manboob contest!

I think the real problem with ^this^ is whether to call them Bros or Manziers.

Honestly, my bustage is genetic. The women in my father's family have broad shoulders, huge hips and busts that match. But I can attest that when I lost 30 lbs, I did go down a cup size. Most women also buy their bras too small (despite readily avaliable instructions for sizing in the Sears catalogue), so maybe that has something to do with the wonky sizing?


GreatKhanArtist wrote:
Quote:
Maybe the paizo editors can have a best manboob contest!
I think the real problem with ^this^ is whether to call them Bros or Manziers.

And I honestly wondered how a thread about boobs could go wrong.


Kruelaid wrote:
And he has cute little nipples!

O thank you, they add +1 piercing damage to my attacks!

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