| Gamer Girrl RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 |
Dave Arneson is NOT deceased ... here's the latest I could find. Don't let the title fool you!
| Gamer Girrl RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 |
There's a note over at EN World that he passed away last night. Source: Arneson's daughter.
Linky here.
Any other confirmation sources?
Confirmation :(
| Mairkurion {tm} |
No! See the other thread.
So, the link is to ENWorld that has the one line about his daughter confirming that he passed away last night with no public source given? Well, given the fact that before we supposedly had a source "close" to Arneson, I'm looking for something more official than this.
joela
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No! See the other thread.
That was yesterday's news. Here's another confirmation.
| Gamer Girrl RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 |
I'm looking for a public source at this point. Boards are just rumor mills without them.
The link I provided is from John Kovalic of Dork Tower fame ... yesterday he was ranting away about folks posting Dave's passing without checking facts ... and today, he has a post stating he knows Dave is gone.
joela
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I'm looking for a public source at this point. Boards are just rumor mills without them.
The other confirmation seems to evince the same vagueness and confusion, if read from top to bottom.
understood. however, morrus (enworld), shannona (rpgnet), are admins for their sites. And I don't think shane of Pinnacle would place the news so prominently as well given the escapist debacle yesterday.
| Mairkurion {tm} |
No disrespect meant, but these sources all seem to be feeding off of the source that Gamer Girrl posted, and it's another game website. Could be right, might not be mistaken like the first announcement, but I'm waiting for a public source. Of course because I hope it's wrong, but also just based on the prudential factor.
James M. was very sure of his source and of its closeness to D.A., and was shocked that it was wrong. As soon as we have public confirmation, I hope we get that posted, but I still haven't found it on Google.
joela
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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:I'm looking for a public source at this point. Boards are just rumor mills without them.The link I provided is from John Kovalic of Dork Tower fame ... yesterday he was ranting away about folks posting Dave's passing without checking facts ... and today, he has a post stating he knows Dave is gone.
thanks, gamer girrl.
joela
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| Pat Payne |
Well, it's looking more and more likely, but color me hard-nosed: I've seen Wikipedia get corrected when it jumped the gun.
*cough, cough*Sinbad*cough, cough...*
/humor
This is a sad day for FRPG fans. Last year we lost the George Washington of the hobby, now the Thomas Jefferson is gone as well. Rest easy, Dave. I hope you're up there rolling the dice with Gary, Tom Moldvay and Don Kaye right now.
| The O P |
After some confusing rumors and retractions, it has been confirmed by multiple sources that Dave Arneson passed away late on Tuesday, April 7, 2009.
Many of our younger readers may not know who Mr. Arneson was, but he was a pivotal part of the birth of the hobby we all play. By most accounts, he literally invented the very concept of role-playing games. While he would share official credit for the original Dungeons & Dragons rules with the late Mr. Gygax, Mr. Arneson was the first to take the Chainmail wargaming rules and run a game where players controlled a single character, rather than an army, and described that character's actions to a judge who would determine how the environment reacted to them. Pretty much every roleplaying game (and many computer games) can trace their lineage to this single idea. He also invented the first campaign world, Blackmoor, which is hardly surprising considering he invented the concept of campaign worlds in the first place. It is impossible for me to overstate the impact his games had on what would become our mutual hobby.
Sadly, there won't be the outpouring of mainstream condolences for Mr. Arneson that we all saw for Mr. Gygax. There won't be an AP obituary or celebrity commentaries. For better or worse, Mr. Gygax was always identified as the creator of the game in the eyes of the media. But while I never met Mr. Arneson, I hope you will all join me in remembering a man from whose mind sprung the critical innovations that led to the birth of role-playing games. D&D may never have become popular without the work of Mr. Gygax, but it never would have existed at all without that of Mr. Arneson.
Prime Evil
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Thank you Dave for a hobby that has kept me enthralled for 25 years. Not many people can claim to have invented a whole new type of gaming nor to have brought joy into so many people's lives. Heck...the millions who play World of Warcraft or Everquest II today owe you a huge debt of gratitude for laying down the first foundations.
houstonderek
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Just to check, are we still going off of people's blogs? I tried another search, and I continue to fail to come up with an obituary or anything like that.
Dave wasn't the celebrity that Gygax was. It doesn't surprise me at all that the media has ignored this.
It's like the Israel Bissel/Paul Revere thing. When given the choice between truth and a popular legend, go with the legend...
| Gamer Girrl RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 |
If we hadn't had the initial false report, and if I hadn't had trouble confirming this with the funeral home on the phone yesterday, I'd probably be less insistent on verification. But an obituary is pretty standard, as of yet, there isn't one in the Star Tribune.
I agree with you, Mairkurion, but there is a fact about obituaries as well ... they often are not posted until many days after a death. The unfortunate reason is that there are folks that watch the obits (and other announcements) looking for information on when folks would be absent from a house for a period of time, to rob the place. I know this was a problem in California when I was much younger, and a lot of people delay the posting of obits for this very reason. I know we did with the passing of my great aunt, grandmother and father in the past few years, and other relatives I've lost.
Word of mouth notification is much more frequent nowadays.