Can a rogue (or anyone ) use sleight of hand to take say a spell components pouch,holy symbol, metamagic rod, wand etc not being used while in combat. (I understand if it is in hand it's a disarm check perhaps)
if so it seems very easy (DC20) and on a metagame level a bit odd.
how have other people handled this- or how should it be handled?
Can a rogue (or anyone ) use sleight of hand to take say a spell components pouch,holy symbol, metamagic rod, wand etc not being used while in combat. (I understand if it is in hand it's a disarm check perhaps)
if so it seems very easy (DC20) and on a metagame level a bit odd.
how have other people handled this- or how should it be handled?
Generally I would have whoever you're stealing from roll an opposed perception check. I suppose you could max out the skill and just be really good at it, but I'm sure there are plenty of things with a high perception score as well.
Also if I'm the wizard I use robes of holding. Very handy!
The spot roll specifically says it allows you to notice it happen- not to stop it.
so my 13th level rogue sees a wizard- runs up, yoink! no spell component pouch.
In my game the party is seeking to recover an item held by a powerful firegiant king. They have met him (and his guards)and had to run but not before noticing the item tucked in to his belt. (It is a piece of the rod of seven parts so the size of a rod). The rogue has asked if next time can he run in during the fight and swipe it from him- and if so how. I like the idea but DC20 will be auto success, even if the king notices, and it seems a bit lame.
looks like it provokes two AoO to me
one for diverting attention, as Pick up an item and Retrieve a stored item both do
one for trying to escape
but, run up and snatch = cannot take a 5-foot step after
can't combine with spring attack either
so you can't just run up, grab it, and run away all in the same round ;)
looks like it provokes two AoO to me
one for diverting attention, as Pick up an item and Retrieve a stored item both do
one for trying to escape
but, run up and snatch = cannot take a 5-foot step after
can't combine with spring attack either
so you can't just run up, grab it, and run away all in the same round ;)
yep- I agree with both of these points. I also think the DC should be higher dependent on the victim's level (like the DC for feint) and situation (ie in combat)