Spell Bear's Endurance

[Mistwalker]

I was wondering why of the 6 second level attribute enhancing spells, Bear's Endurance is the only one without a material component for mages?

Bull's Strength has hair or dung
Cat's Grace has fur (why no dung?)
Eagle's Splendor has feathers or droppings
Fox's Cunning has hair or dung
Owl's Wisdom has feathers or droppings

Is there any reason why they all shouldn't have a similar material component? That is hair/feathers or dung/droppings?

[Ross Byers]

What is it with Mages and crap? Bat Guano, Eagle Droppings, Cow patties...

[Mistwalker]

Ross Byers wrote:

What is it with Mages and crap? Bat Guano, Eagle Droppings, Cow patties...

As their senses of smell have been de-sentisized over the years, due no doubt to potion making and reagents, they are less bothered by the smell.

Being frugal, mages wanted a material component that does not cost anything, and there are some places where they get paid to take it away (sympathize with the apprentices).

[minkscooter]

What's a spell bear? Is it a cousin of the care bear?

[KnightErrantJR]

Ross Byers wrote:

What is it with Mages and crap? Bat Guano, Eagle Droppings, Cow patties...

Its a conspiracy by the guy that invented the Eschew Materials feat . . .

[KaeYoss]

minkscooter wrote:

What's a spell bear?

Like a spelling bee, but way bigger.

[NotMousse]

Mistwalker wrote:

I was wondering why of the 6 second level attribute enhancing spells, Bear's Endurance is the only one without a material component for mages?

Bull's Strength has hair or dung
Cat's Grace has fur (why no dung?)
Eagle's Splendor has feathers or droppings
Fox's Cunning has hair or dung
Owl's Wisdom has feathers or droppings

Is there any reason why they all shouldn't have a similar material component? That is hair/feathers or dung/droppings?

There's a good reason for this. If you look at the animals whose dung you're collecting most of them are domestic or easily accessible. A bear on the other hand is neither.

Bulls, cats, and arguably owls are domesticated. Foxes and eagles are low CR animals that your average farmer can kill. Bears are nasty scary animals that eat humans and require special care when collecting their dung.

If you're dead set on it I suppose you'd want to give it a GP cost (about 3 I'd guess) but this disallows the mage from casting with eschew materials on it.

[selios]

Maybe because it was just "endurance" in 3.0...

[Midnight Dancer]

Because the bears' stuff is all in the woods, so the druids have a monopoly on it.

I had a player once propose a new spell called "Wife-wanting-a-new-bathroom's Persistance" which gave a massive bonus to Will saves...

[Old Guy GM]

Midnight Dancer wrote:

I had a player once propose a new spell called "Wife-wanting-a-new-bathroom's Persistance" which gave a massive bonus to Will saves...

Please tell me the material component for this one was going to be hair, and not the...unpleasant...alternative.

[Midnight Dancer]

Old Guy GM wrote:

Midnight Dancer wrote:

I had a player once propose a new spell called "Wife-wanting-a-new-bathroom's Persistance" which gave a massive bonus to Will saves...

Please tell me the material component for this one was going to be hair, and not the...unpleasant...alternative.

We didn't discuss that, but I do recall that the somatic component was "cross your arms, purse your lips and give a withering stare" and the verbal component was, uniquely, "one minute of icy silence".