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Mainly because he seems to be allergic to making sense.
No, I am only allergic to loud mouthed fools with no comprehension of history or government.
Their allergic reaction to rational thought and fact produces antibodies that cause a severe counter-reaction in me, leading ultimately to severe humiliation for them.
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Mainly because he seems to be allergic to making sense.No, I am only allergic to loud mouthed fools with no comprehension of history or government.
Their allergic reaction to rational thought and fact produces antibodies that cause a severe counter-reaction in me, leading ultimately to severe humuliation for them.
It's funnier reading that if you imagine the tentacles moving and hear it in Zoidberg's voice. Try it.
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It's funnier reading that if you imagine the tentacles moving and hear it in Zoidberg's voice. Try it.Mainly because he seems to be allergic to making sense.No, I am only allergic to loud mouthed fools with no comprehension of history or government.
Their allergic reaction to rational thought and fact produces antibodies that cause a severe counter-reaction in me, leading ultimately to severe humuliation for them.
wow...you're right...
Add the Curly 'woo woo' sound afterwards too for extra jollity.
ROFL
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He debates? Your side of the political spectrum?
1) If belittling people and irrationally denying facts that weaken your stance is debate then Sam is fantastic.
I debate exceptionally well.
I flame obnoxious jackasses even better.Let me explain because I'm not coming back.
The explanation is quite simple.
You feel great when attacking people but are unable to deal with anyone throwing your venom back at you or, even worse, actually rebutting you in a manner that you are incapable of responding to because of your limited understanding of the concepts under discussion.
Obnoxious? My husband calls me that sometimes...
Let me explain because I'm not coming back.
1) If belittling people and irrationally denying facts that weaken your stance is debate then Sam is fantastic.
2) IMHO, the neocons have tied the "spectrum" into knots and tossed it out the window. Furthermore, fundamentalist Christians have added another axis.
I made one simple comment about Sam and you decide to get asinine with me. What's your problem?
He debates? Your side of the political spectrum?1) If belittling people and irrationally denying facts that weaken your stance is debate then Sam is fantastic.I debate exceptionally well.
I flame obnoxious jackasses even better.Let me explain because I'm not coming back.The explanation is quite simple.
You feel great when attacking people but are unable to deal with anyone throwing your venom back at you or, even worse, actually rebutting you in a manner that you are incapable of responding to because of your limited understanding of the concepts under discussion.
You have excellent critical skills and are clearly learned but the above comment you have just made about me proves my point. To put it into simple words: you are not nice. I've been here a long time and I challenge you to find someone I have thrown venom at, other than you.
Besides, as I see it I didn't thrown venom, just crudely drew parallels between you and another unreasonable member of these boards when you had already engaged in your customary venomous tone and with your usual dismissiveness.
And for the nth time, I ask you with due respect to please refrain from telling me what I feel, and please stop impugning me.
I made one simple comment about Sam and you decide to get asinine with me. What's your problem?
I'm not being assinine. I'm just telling you that (1) Sam is nasty, and (2) I don't think there's a spectrum.
Looking over the thread, I think you have been pretty decent about your views.
I made one simple comment about Sam and you decide to get asinine with me. What's your problem?I'm not being assinine. I'm just telling you that (1) Sam is nasty, and (2) I don't think there's a spectrum.
Looking over the thread, I think you have been pretty decent about your views.
Thank you. I apologize if I misunderstood you.
It's cool, Gary. Although you may share some of Sam's positions, as do I (EDIT: emphasis on some), I find you to be much more respectful. No apology is necessary.
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You have excellent critical skills and are clearly learned but the above comment you have just made about me proves my point. To put it into simple words: you are not nice. I've been here a long time and I challenge you to find someone I have thrown venom at, other than you.
I am quite nice.
Just nice to punks who think they can make a name for themselves by attacking me.Besides, as I see it I didn't thrown venom, just crudely drew parallels between you and another unreasonable member of these boards when you had already engaged in your customary venomous tone and with your usual dismissiveness.
So having said nothing offensive to you, indeed not having said anything to you at all, you decided to just gratuitously attack me for whatever imagined reason you have to justify such an action to yourself as anything other than an attack.
And for the nth time, I ask you with due respect to please refrain from telling me what I feel, and please stop impugning me.
No.
Really, no.As long as you feel the need to randomly attack me I will feel perfectly free to phrase your motives in whatever manner I wish.
If you do not like it, correct your behavior.
If you will not, you will have to deal with me not caring about your complaints.
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It's funnier reading that if you imagine the tentacles moving and hear it in Zoidberg's voice. Try it.Mainly because he seems to be allergic to making sense.No, I am only allergic to loud mouthed fools with no comprehension of history or government.
Their allergic reaction to rational thought and fact produces antibodies that cause a severe counter-reaction in me, leading ultimately to severe humuliation for them.
You are soooo right.
Remember to keep it in indignant zoidberg mode the whole time, it's hilarious.
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Doesn't Nov 6th mean the start of the 2012 election campaign? It is a four year election campaign these days isn't it?
Irritatingly, it is becoming more like eight; first the four year campaign, then a four administration to get re-elected. And of course that is followed by a four year lame duck term.
Doesn't Nov 6th mean the start of the 2012 election campaign? It is a four year election campaign these days isn't it? In Canada it only takes a few weeks to go through all the lying, name calling, and bitter, bitter disappointment. I'm not suggesting that the Canadian system is better . . . only that the American system is flawed.
But it is entertaining to watch, I'll give you that, damn entertaining.
You are probably right. I know a few pessimistic Republican newsbloggers are already contemplating Palin Vs. Obama in 2012 (guuh). I don't know much about the Canadian system, just that my Socialist family up in Cape Breton have a real hate on for Stephen Harper. My mom hates him with a black passion that makes Cindy Sheehan's hatred of Bush almost warm and cuddly by comparison.
My main beef with the American system is that the electorate seems to suppress viable alternate parties. I am a square peg that doesn't fit in either of the round holes. What is a socially liberal fiscal conservative to do? Vote for the best third-party at the time, but what do you do when every candidate you see disgusts you? And how do you get up the enthusiasm to vote knowing your vote goes to Obama no matter what your wishes because you live in a 'blue' state?
Fortunately there are some interesting ballot initiatives to vote on this time around, so I will take the time to pull the lever, but it kind of pisses me off that my vote for president is already predetermined by the majority in the state. It would be nice if they awarded electoral votes by percentage of votes won rather than a 'winner take all' system. Switching to a percentile model might give third-party candidates a chance as well. It might force the candidates to actually visit my state for more than fundraising dinners as well.
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Doesn't Nov 6th mean the start of the 2012 election campaign? It is a four year election campaign these days isn't it? In Canada it only takes a few weeks to go through all the lying, name calling, and bitter, bitter disappointment. I'm not suggesting that the Canadian system is better . . . only that the American system is flawed.
But it is entertaining to watch, I'll give you that, damn entertaining.
You are probably right. I know a few pessimistic Republican newsbloggers are already contemplating Palin Vs. Obama in 2012 (guuh). I don't know much about the Canadian system, just that my Socialist family up in Cape Breton have a real hate on for Stephen Harper. My mom hates him with a black passion that makes Cindy Sheehan's hatred of Bush almost warm and cuddly by comparison.
My main beef with the American system is that the electorate seems to suppress viable alternate parties. I am a square peg that doesn't fit in either of the round holes. What is a socially liberal fiscal conservative to do? Vote for the best third-party at the time, but what do you do when every candidate you see disgusts you? And how do you get up the enthusiasm to vote knowing your vote goes to Obama no matter what your wishes because you live in a 'blue' state?
Fortunately there are some interesting ballot initiatives to vote on this time around, so I will take the time to pull the lever, but it kind of pisses me off that my vote for president is already predetermined by the majority in the state. It would be nice if they awarded electoral votes by percentage of votes won rather than a 'winner take all' system. Switching to a percentile model might give third-party candidates a chance as well. It might force the candidates to actually visit my state for more than fundraising dinners as well.
Third parties in Canada have argued for a 'proportional representation' approach where after the seats were assigned to the winners of each riding, a number of seats were made available to those parties who got a significant percentage of the vote but not enough to place a candidate. Say the Green Party got 5% of the vote across the country; they would then be given a few seats to represent that minority.
Some larger parties have argued that those Members of Parliament would not be beholden to any geographically specific population and, therefore, the system would be less democratic. Others say that it increases the number of voices being heard in Parliament and those minority voices would be represented.
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Doesn't Nov 6th mean the start of the 2012 election campaign? It is a four year election campaign these days isn't it?Irritatingly, it is becoming more like eight; first the four year campaign, then a four administration to get re-elected. And of course that is followed by a four year lame duck term.
Dont say it unless you mean to run...What is it? "The Stars are Right!"
Sam Weiss for El President 2012
Platform
- Relocate the Whitehouse to the Moon
- Extend the Presidential Term to Life
- Declare dominion over the Earth
Third parties in Canada have argued for a 'proportional representation' approach where after the seats were assigned to the winners of each riding, a number...
I prefer voting directly for a candidate. I'm not comfortable with my votes going towards someone who's not representing my riding directly.
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I prefer voting directly for a candidate. I'm not comfortable with my votes going towards someone who's not representing my riding directly.
Third parties in Canada have argued for a 'proportional representation' approach where after the seats were assigned to the winners of each riding, a number...
Hence, my second paragraph.
Some larger parties have argued that those Members of Parliament would not be beholden to any geographically specific population and, therefore, the system would be less democratic. Others say that it increases the number of voices being heard in Parliament and those minority voices would be represented.
Well Samuel, looks like you are getting a lot of venom for nothing. Maybe it is due to kool-aid drinking, I-play-a-lawyer-on-the-internet fanboys, or just random attacks. Anyway, good luck to you my friend.
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Mainly because he seems to be allergic to making sense.No, I am only allergic to loud mouthed fools with no comprehension of history or government.
Their allergic reaction to rational thought and fact produces antibodies that cause a severe counter-reaction in me, leading ultimately to severe humiliation for them.
That is a rather elitist perspective. I can't speak to any of your views beyond this... When you dismiss those who have different views as "loud mouth fools with no comprehension of history or government", then it probably has a tendency to provoke a venemous reaction. Perhaps a more civil means of disagreement would help supress the "severe counter-reaction" you experience when talking to those that don't share your beliefs?
I prefer voting directly for a candidate. I'm not comfortable with my votes going towards someone who's not representing my riding directly.
Third parties in Canada have argued for a 'proportional representation' approach where after the seats were assigned to the winners of each riding, a number...
Hence, my second paragraph.
Some larger parties have argued that those Members of Parliament would not be beholden to any geographically specific population and, therefore, the system would be less democratic. Others say that it increases the number of voices being heard in Parliament and those minority voices would be represented.
I didn't need the "hence" Tarren. I was corroborating the second paragraph.
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Doesn't Nov 6th mean the start of the 2012 election campaign? It is a four year election campaign these days isn't it?Irritatingly, it is becoming more like eight; first the four year campaign, then a four administration to get re-elected. And of course that is followed by a four year lame duck term.Dont say it unless you mean to run...What is it? "The Stars are Right!"
Sam Weiss for El President 2012
Platform
- Relocate the Whitehouse to the Moon
- Extend the Presidential Term to Life
- Declare dominion over the Earth
They don't have any firewood on the moon though.
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I prefer voting directly for a candidate. I'm not comfortable with my votes going towards someone who's not representing my riding directly.
Third parties in Canada have argued for a 'proportional representation' approach where after the seats were assigned to the winners of each riding, a number...
Hence, my second paragraph.
Some larger parties have argued that those Members of Parliament would not be beholden to any geographically specific population and, therefore, the system would be less democratic. Others say that it increases the number of voices being heard in Parliament and those minority voices would be represented.
(lol) my wife saw your avatar, Tarren. She said, "Look! It's Joe the Plumber!"
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Well Samuel, looks like you are getting a lot of venom for nothing. Maybe it is due to kool-aid drinking, I-play-a-lawyer-on-the-internet fanboys, or just random attacks. Anyway, good luck to you my friend.
Hey now! Kruelaid has been doing this dance with Sam long before I started pretending to be a lawyer on the internet. If anything, I am Kruelaid's fanboy - he's the one that showed me how much fun it is to get Sam really angry and have him call me a troll/anti-semite/punk/chicken/etc. And, in all honesty, Kruelaid is better at it than I am. I no longer bother engaging in the back-and-forth of Sam's "reasoning" anymore, I just skip to the end and tell him he's wrong. It's as productive as engaging in the actual discussion, but takes less time and achieves the same result (Sam is wrong, attacks me for pointing out that he is wrong, calls me one of the things listed above, and claims he's right and innocent and that he won the argument).
That is a rather elitist perspective. I can't speak to any of your views beyond this... When you dismiss those who have different views as "loud mouth fools with no comprehension of history or government", then it probably has a tendency to provoke a venemous reaction. Perhaps a more civil means of disagreement would help supress the "severe counter-reaction" you experience when talking to those that don't share your beliefs?Mainly because he seems to be allergic to making sense.No, I am only allergic to loud mouthed fools with no comprehension of history or government.
Their allergic reaction to rational thought and fact produces antibodies that cause a severe counter-reaction in me, leading ultimately to severe humiliation for them.
Well Brent, I would assume you read all of the comments that lead to this, but if you didn't, here are the initial ones, keep in mind Samuel hadn't said anything leading up to this directly, so it was coming out of left field, nor did he say anything between this particular statements.
Yeah, where's Sam Weiss when you need him...
Word.
Mainly because he seems to be allergic to making sense.
He debates?
If belittling people and irrationally denying facts that weaken your stance is debate then Sam is fantastic.
Samuel was basically being character assassinated for no real purpose. I would hope that you are not defending such conduct.
My main beef with the American system is that the electorate seems to suppress viable alternate parties. I am a square peg that doesn't fit in either of the round holes. What is a socially liberal fiscal conservative to do? Vote for the best third-party at the time, but what do you do when every candidate you see disgusts you? And how do you get up the enthusiasm to vote knowing your vote goes to Obama no matter what your wishes because you live in a 'blue' state?
The two-party system has been the slow death of American politics. That's why part of my 2020 Presidential Platform is abolishing the Electoral College and instituting an instant-runoff system so that people can actually vote third party without having effectively stayed home.
True. At least not since the whalers used it all...
They don't have any firewood on the moon though.
We're whalers on the moon,
We carry a harpoon.But there ain't no whales
So we tell tall tales
And sing our whaling tune.
*whew* I'm so glad they're investigating this guy's economic history. I feel safer now.No relation. I'm licensed, pay my taxes, support my union, and prefer Obama.
(lol) my wife saw your avatar, Tarren. She said, "Look! It's Joe the Plumber!"
Anyone kinda feel sorry for this poor dude? I know if I saw Obama walking up my driveway I would run inside and lock the doors. Talk about an unasked for media anal probe. Sheesh.
*whew* I'm so glad they're investigating this guy's economic history. I feel safer now.No relation. I'm licensed, pay my taxes, support my union, and prefer Obama.
(lol) my wife saw your avatar, Tarren. She said, "Look! It's Joe the Plumber!"
Don't you just love the mainstream media?
It would have been one thing if he was some sort of political activist, but he was just some guy asking a question at an event. He asked a sharp question and Obama slipped up with the crypto-socialist remark. All of a sudden Joe the Plumber is the nastiest piece of garbage, political GOP plant, lying tax-dodging non-union scumbag that ever walked the earth.
All I can say is that thank Dog that none of the politicos are likely to show up in my state anytime soon.
**Edited for misunderstanding where the question was asked.**
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Anyone kinda feel sorry for this poor dude? I know if I saw Obama walking up my driveway I would run inside and lock the doors. Talk about an unasked for media anal probe. Sheesh.
I feel really sorry for Joe. He showed up, asked an honest question, got his answer, and now everyone's hounding him. I just read up on this whole situation, watched the video on YouTube, and I can't believe the poor guy's getting hounded by the media now for this... It's sad.
And I imagine it will just discourage people from asking 'real' questions in the future to avoid the media digging around in your life.
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It would have been one thing if he was some sort of political activist, but he was just some guy going about his business when Obama arrived at his house. He asked a sharp question and Obama slipped up with the crypto-socialist remark. All of a sudden Joe the Plumber is the nastiest piece of garbage, political GOP plant, lying tax-dodging non-union scumbag that ever walked the earth.
All I can say is that thank Dog that none of the politicos are likely to show up on my doorstep.
He's bald like Cheney. It must be a NeoCon plot to make Obama say something socialist.
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Just move to Texas, dude. He's written us off.
Anyone kinda feel sorry for this poor dude? I know if I saw Obama walking up my driveway I would run inside and lock the doors. Talk about an unasked for media anal probe. Sheesh.
Utah's probably a better bet. We were shocked (and pleased) he even opened an office here!
Just move to Texas, dude. He's written us off.
Anyone kinda feel sorry for this poor dude? I know if I saw Obama walking up my driveway I would run inside and lock the doors. Talk about an unasked for media anal probe. Sheesh.
Sorry, but I spent 3 years in El Paso already and it didn't suit. Much as I hate the politics, I love my state, it feels like home. Anyway, he has counted on Massachusetts since it became obvious he was going to get the nomination. Boils down to the same thing, really. I was shocked to even see an Obama commercial on TV the other day. I guess he was hoping to reach some of the New Hampshire voters or something.
Don't you just love the mainstream media?
The Media:
We can't tell you who is right or wrong, who is lying and who is honest (that'd be 'biased'), but we'll sure as hell try to tell you who's 'winning'!