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Warner Bros. is looking to reintroduce Superman in a new film. The film will bring a darker, more brooding side of the character. Much like Batman Begins/Dark Knight.
WB also said they will be releasing fewer, but bigger movies int the future. They expect atleast eight movies a year, six which will be comic based.
Movies featuring Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow, and Wonder Woman are all in active development. All these movies will get the "Batman" treatment.
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Ok, i can see a dark and "edgy" take on the green lantern, the green arrow, even possibly wonder woman, but superman? maybe. i doubt it. he is superman. he's in the spotlight, he saves the peoples, he gets the applause, etc. it's quite hard to do dark and edgy with that. and don't even get me started on the flash. his stories were never (to my recollection) dark or edgy. I would actually like to see these made now to find out how it's done. i mean, there's no way Lois would ever get killed off, and no way any of the green lanterns (as far as i know) would be pushed to the killing point. plus, a flash movie would be over way too fast (HA! pun!)
personally, if anything is going to be made "dark and edgy" (God, that term is startign to annoy even me, and i'm the one writing it) i'd love to see it done to the magic users. Doctor Fate, Zatanna, Etrigon, The Spectre (now that one can be made dark! and controversial! my favorite combo), The phantom Stranger and especially Detective Chimp. in fact, my vision right now would be for a film adaptation of Day of Vengeance...as if you couldn't guess that.
Dark and brooding (D&B) Superman? D&B is definately in right now, but how bout we cut some new characters or ones that haven't been done already...
Superman? Who's next? The Smurfs? :)
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Dark and brooding (D&B) Superman? D&B is definately in right now, but how bout we cut some new characters or ones that haven't been done already...
Superman? Who's next? The Smurfs? :)
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Or Captain Planet. that dude should toally get a moment in the D&B spotlight. we just don't take seriously enough a guy who fights pollution while being weak against polution, all so we can continue living in this crazy messed up world.
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No thanks. Superman Returns was about as much as I could take in terms of Superman getting emotional and modern.
The guy is a beacon of good and justice. Making him dark is just arbitrary. You might as well make a new character.
That said, if they had some sort of event that made the world a darker/scarier place to live in, and Superman had to go around cleaning things up, I would be all for it.
Just picture the Man of Steel hovering down into something out of Christopher Nolan's worst nightmares. That would make me feel good inside. Having Superman stand up for his values in the worst of conditions.
Dark and Edgy superman? Do the movie version of The Death and Life of Superman, maybe split in two films.
Solemn Gruddy want Movie too!
Dark and brooding (D&B) Superman? D&B is definately in right now, but how bout we cut some new characters or ones that haven't been done already...
Superman? Who's next? The Smurfs? :)
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Oooh! Dark & Brooding Smurfs!
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All I can say is, if they do another Superman movie, PLEASE give him a super villian to fight. I'm burned out on Superman movies with Lex Luthor using kryptonite on Supe as the only bad guy.Seriously. He has a decent rogues gallery and all they do is use Luthor again and again!
That is very true. Let's have some Brainiac, some Darkseid, some city of Kandor...
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Well he has had his broody or darkish moments (quite a few of which have been a result of Darksied machinations.) problem is it would probably take a couple of movies to do properly 1 to do set up another to deal with follow on though I suppose they could do a mini series heres what happened thing comics tie in (ugg.) Why do people equate edgy with dark and broody anyhow?
"What we have here is a rare opportunity for me to really cut loose.."
All I can say is, if they do another Superman movie, PLEASE give him a super villian to fight. I'm burned out on Superman movies with Lex Luthor using kryptonite on Supe as the only bad guy.
Seriously. He has a decent rogues gallery and all they do is use Luthor again and again!
Word on that, Jack. I love Lex but twice was enough. Supe has some classic enemies and plot twists and they are doing a grave injustice to the comic with the constant rehash.
Brainiac has my vote.
WB also said they will be releasing fewer, but bigger movies int the future. They expect atleast eight movies a year, six which will be comic based.
You either didn't read that article very closely or you're just trying to be inflammatory.
Mr. Robinov plans for DC Comics to supply the material for up to two of the six to eight tent-pole films he hopes Warner Bros. will have in the pipeline by then.
They did say that they want to do dark though as a general rule and specifically called out Superman in that role. That's....not a very good idea.
D&B... How about the scenarion in the Justice League cartoons...
Superman: "We (the Justice League) would never go against the government."
Batman: "And what if Luthor WAS the government; What then?"
Just that thought gave me goose bumps.
And I agree that, although I too really like Luthor, I would really like to see a super-villain in a superman movie. Brainiac could almost be used as the Borg were used in Star Trek, to make the movie dark and scary as he "assimilates" Metropolis. Darkseid could cause major world-wide destruction with an invasion from Apokolips.
There's so many thing these guys can do with Superman. Leave him good and honest, but darken the situation he's in.
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Brainiac could almost be used as the Borg were used in Star Trek, to make the movie dark and scary as he "assimilates" Metropolis.
Have you read the new TNG novel "Greater Than The Sum" yet? That is a great take on Brainiac as the Borg. The Borg develop a new philosophy that can be summed up by their statement "Resistance is futile, but will be enjoyed."
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Yes, I'm sure everyone was clamoring for a dark, edgy Superman or Flash...
I'm just clamouring for a Flash movie in general! ;)
EDIT:Oh and I suppose I should chime in on the Original Topic.
Doomsday/Death of Superman. Then make it so bad it flops, so Superman stays dead and never comes back!!
Can you tell I'm not a big Superman fan? Death of Superman TP was the only Superman Comic I ever bought, whereas I have all but a handful of The Wally West run of Flash and even have a couple of Barry Allens.
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I think we need a Dark & Edgy Ambush Bug! Or a Dark & Edgy Super-Friends movie, complete with D&E remakes of the horrible ethnic stereotypes like Jive Lightning and Apache Princess.
And then Marvel can counter with a Dark & Edgy Power Pack movie, and perhaps a Dark & Edgy Howard the Duck remake.
Owie. I just hurt myself remembering the first Howard the Duck movie...
I think we need a Dark & Edgy Ambush Bug! Or a Dark & Edgy Super-Friends movie, complete with D&E remakes of the horrible ethnic stereotypes like Jive Lightning and Apache Princess.
Dark & Brooding Wonder Twins? (Or D&B Marvan & Wendy?)
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I'm just clamouring for a Flash movie in general! ;)
.....whereas I have all but a handful of The Wally West run of Flash and even have a couple of Barry Allens.
Same here, a Flash movie would kick ass. I don't have any Barry Allen issues of Flash, but I've got the entire Wally West run, including a bunch signed by Mark Waid and Mike Wieringo.
Kingdom Come would work as a darker, edgier Superman, but I doubt any studio would want to make it. It's not mainstream enough and deals with the whole DC Universe, not just Superman.
If they want edgier, maybe they should have Superman joining the mile-high club in the clouds like in DK2?
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Same here, a Flash movie would kick ass. I don't have any Barry Allen issues of Flash, but I've got the entire Wally West run, including a bunch signed by Mark Waid and Mike Wieringo.I'm just clamouring for a Flash movie in general! ;)
.....whereas I have all but a handful of The Wally West run of Flash and even have a couple of Barry Allens.
I have a signed copy of Issue 1 of the Wally Run. I didn't get into Comics until I was 17, so I missed a lot of the eary run (I think I came in around Isse 70something, the one with the picture of Flash racing Aquaman on the front. So I have done pretty good to buff up my collection to within 10 issue from there.
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The only way to do the big blue boy scout dark and bitter is to do Kingdom Come.
Kingdom Come would be F(*&(^#&^(*$&(*&@$(*&$(*@^%^% AWESOME!!!!!!!!!
It would never happen...too much red tape, but can you imagine the giant battle...and Batman's troops come in...
*sighs*
Why Hollywood...why so much politics?
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The only way to do the big blue boy scout dark and bitter is to do Kingdom Come.Kingdom Come would be F(*&(^#&^(*$&(*&@$(*&$(*@^%^% AWESOME!!!!!!!!!
It would never happen...too much red tape, but can you imagine the giant battle...and Batman's troops come in...
*sighs*
Why Hollywood...why so much politics?
Actually I think it's just the wrong kind of politics. Kingdom Come is an even better analogy for today's political climate than it was ten or fifteen years ago.
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I have a signed copy of Issue 1 of the Wally Run. I didn't get into Comics until I was 17, so I missed a lot of the eary run (I think I came in around Isse 70something, the one with the picture of Flash racing Aquaman on the front. So I have done pretty good to buff up my collection to within 10 issue from there.Same here, a Flash movie would kick ass. I don't have any Barry Allen issues of Flash, but I've got the entire Wally West run, including a bunch signed by Mark Waid and Mike Wieringo.I'm just clamouring for a Flash movie in general! ;)
.....whereas I have all but a handful of The Wally West run of Flash and even have a couple of Barry Allens.
wow. the onl flash comic i have is the one where he defies all logic by running into the future (!) so hard he ends up in the past (!) and somehow jumbles his electrons while doing the impossible to end up going through an actual grate (!) designed to prevent time travelers from doing exactly that (!). it was a fun read though.
I have a signed copy of Issue 1 of the Wally Run. I didn't get into Comics until I was 17, so I missed a lot of the eary run (I think I came in around Isse 70something, the one with the picture of Flash racing Aquaman on the front. So I have done pretty good to buff up my collection to within 10 issue from there.
Racing Aquaman! You can't be serious. :rofl:
Well, a grittier version of Superman could work if they keep Superman himself good, as has been stated before. However, a gritty Flash? That just shouldn't be done. The Flash is cheery and fun and just plain entertaining, and besides, men running faster than the speed of light in primary colors isn't that gritty in the first place. Granted, that would be better than no Flash movie at all.
Also, thanks for posting that video, David Fryer.
Dark & Brooding Wonder Twins?
Yeah! They have to grapple with subconscious incestuous yearnings, while suppressing the desire to poison the other super friends and become "real" superheroes for once in their stead, and maybe sell Earth out to their home planet while they're at it. And they join Greenpeace and bomb spaceships, because Gleek is endangered. And the boy learns how to become something other than a freakin' glass of water.
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However, a gritty Flash? That just shouldn't be done. The Flash is cheery and fun and just plain entertaining, and besides, men running faster than the speed of light in primary colors isn't that gritty in the first place.
There's always Walter West, the dark Flash that replaced Wally for a while. We could make the movie about him.
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the studio needs to realize the issue isnt with how Superman is, but who the villain is. The reason Batman's movies have been better, is better villains with a better script.
As someone here mentioned already...just jow many times can Lex Luthor be the villain. Lets face it, the only good Superman movie made so far was with Zod.
They just to bring a few of his rogues gallery to the forefront..Brainiac, Intergang and Darkseid, Henshaw, Mongul, Rampage, Maxima...Toyman...(just kidding ;) )
thats all :D
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Actually I think it's just the wrong kind of politics. Kingdom Come is an even better analogy for today's political climate than it was ten or fifteen years ago.The only way to do the big blue boy scout dark and bitter is to do Kingdom Come.Kingdom Come would be F(*&(^#&^(*$&(*&@$(*&$(*@^%^% AWESOME!!!!!!!!!
It would never happen...too much red tape, but can you imagine the giant battle...and Batman's troops come in...
*sighs*
Why Hollywood...why so much politics?
I meant the politics of not allowing Batman and Superman in the same movie b/c, while they are "owned" by WB, different production studios have the rights to publish the stories. Its the same thing Marvel went through until they got back all of the movie rights.
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However, a gritty Flash? That just shouldn't be done. The Flash is cheery and fun and just plain entertaining, and besides, men running faster than the speed of light in primary colors isn't that gritty in the first place.There's always Walter West, the dark Flash that replaced Wally for a while. We could make the movie about him.
Careful...somebody might!
At least the costume is (was?) cool though.
However, a gritty Flash? That just shouldn't be done. The Flash is cheery and fun and just plain entertaining, and besides, men running faster than the speed of light in primary colors isn't that gritty in the first place.There's always Walter West, the dark Flash that replaced Wally for a while. We could make the movie about him.
Yes, they could use the Flash from when DC made him darker, but that just doesn't seem like how the Flash should be, to me at least. He isn't some brooding guy who happens to have super-speed? He's the guy who's the fastest man on Earth and LOVING IT! The kind of guy who decides to have Chinese for dinner and gets it at a nice little restaurant in Beijing. The idea of a griity Flash is just wrong.
Besides, have you seen his Rogues Gallery? A guy who's sick of being mistaken for Mister Freeze, a man who fights with weapons that haven't been seriously used for millenia, Toyman's less effective copy, or a guy who tries to defeat the world's fastest man with a light shower. None of these guys are really stiucking out as "Dark & Grittytm".
Note: I mean no insult to anyone with this. Just felt like expanding on why a gritty Flash just seems wrong.
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the studio needs to realize the issue isnt with how Superman is, but who the villain is. [snip]Toyman...(just kidding ;) )
thats all :D
Actually the story arc where Toyman kidnapped and then murdered Cat Grant's son while Clark was on vacation shows that Superman can be angsty and can at least come close to crossing the line. That version of Toyman could make a good story line.
the studio needs to realize the issue isnt with how Superman is, but who the villain is. [snip]Toyman...(just kidding ;) )
Hey, Toyman can be dark/gritty. Just look at him in "Justice League Unlimited". The puppet-like mask, the lethal toys, the voice. If it wasn't for the fact he couldn't use any of his lethal little gizmos on a person and hurt them in a graphic manner, I'd proboly have nightmares about that creep.
the studio needs to realize the issue isnt with how Superman is, but who the villain is. [snip]Toyman...(just kidding ;) )Hey, Toyman can be dark/gritty. Just look at him in "Justice League Unlimited". The puppet-like mask, the lethal toys, the voice. If it wasn't for the fact he couldn't use any of his lethal little gizmos on a person and hurt them in a graphic manner, I'd proboly have nightmares about that creep.
That would be awesome! And, it would NOT be like every other Superman that has ever been done. :D